M 1029: The webMafia Olympics game 1 SPY VS SPY

[SpiritoftheRadio]

I am actively trying to read the case against yoyo his wagon is putting out, but I can't really find it really, they all just kind of jumped over there. Looks more standard for bona and HB, idk about haze, he made a spectrum and then yoyo was at the bottom, and red means dead i suppose

It sounds like you haven’t read a single post where I quote yoyo

yeah, brain called us out on not reading his case against you earlier, ngl I have basically glazed over most of your posts and those involving you. I went back to read your posts to figure out if you had substance to your comment here, and realized immediately that: no. no you do not. not only do you vote for him twice and fuck up before you get it right, but you give no reasons in either post, and then going a full 3 pages back you didn't even mention yoyo before voting for him. Your posts are laborious to read and me taking your comment at face value and pondering my own shortcomings was wrong and was a waste of time. That's why you're being only talked to by brain and we're glossing over your arguments and his arguments against you. Bigger fish to fry and why work hard to understand someone who isn't putting in the effort to communicate. Simple as.

After reading further, your argument against yoyo is he said he'd pick ghug if he was OG spy and is pretty blatant about wanting/thinking he will be mafia at some point (which literally everyone is thinking and some have admitted, but all have been implicit about in their posts). Now we're at the point we can say town winning would be a miracle. Your argument that I read leading up to the end of day 2 was just "yoyo is being scummy and weird" and thats it. I am not backing down from my statement, arguments are poop, incomprehensible to someone trying to catch up since points are buried and shiiit once found. I am blunt and ramble some for sure, but my core points are in all my non-meme posts. Your style bags for me to deep dive to figure you out, then I dive deep and nothing is there. Dunno what you want from me, so here's honesty. You throwing my own comment back at me had me triggered into self reflection, thinking I needed to learn and grow and be a better spirit.... but no, get a job hippy

[ghug]

Who was around at EoD? Yoyo. Colby claims he wasn't. Brian? Brain?

Yoyo wanted to no kill and it takes some balls to not break the tie with his own ass in the jackpot, so I think he looks ok unless bozo is his teammate.

My own feeling now is one of defeatist numbness, so I'm hesitant to assume not giving a shit makes you scum, but it's also pretty indefensible to let the day end like that if you're around.

[Hamilton Brian]

I get it ghug, and yes I was on at the end of the day, but I can't be the one stuck making the hard decision two days in a row. Maybe I should have.

Had I jumped off of yoyo it would have been bozo that took the kill.

I don't believe bozo is OG spy; I don't think they're turned spy (emphasis on think, for those wondering).

Are you saying I made the less-optimal decision?

[ghug]

I get it ghug, and yes I was on at the end of the day, but I can't be the one stuck making the hard decision two days in a row. Maybe I should have.

Had I jumped off of yoyo it would have been bozo that took the kill.

I don't believe bozo is OG spy; I don't think they're turned spy (emphasis on think, for those wondering).

Are you saying I made the less-optimal decision?

Yes.

[Col7by]

I like the pace of this game a lot more than the last but I overestimated thinking people would flip with like half an hour left. Kicking myself for not doing it before I got off. Yoyo has moved to my top suspect because of the no-kill thing and being the one tied. I think one opposing team scum was in the yoyo train but not the other since it was to risky to expose themselves. Early theory though

[Hamilton Brian]

I'm not going to wear it all then. I wasn't the only one around.

Do you scum read that pool of people (the on-liner non-movers) more now, and why?

[Hamilton Brian]

I like the pace of this game a lot more than the last but I overestimated thinking people would flip with like half an hour left. Kicking myself for not doing it before I got off. Yoyo has moved to my top suspect because of the no-kill thing and being the one tied. I think one opposing team scum was in the yoyo train but not the other since it was to risky to expose themselves. Early theory though

Well, sure, and when you announce that you'll make sure the vote is not tied, but then don't stick to it...I am having a hard time swallowing that.

I think that was a performative post, and then there's the "gaffe" post, and now I have a hunch that it wasn't a gaffe at all.

[Hamilton Brian]

I like the pace of this game a lot more than the last but I overestimated thinking people would flip with like half an hour left. Kicking myself for not doing it before I got off. Yoyo has moved to my top suspect because of the no-kill thing and being the one tied. I think one opposing team scum was in the yoyo train but not the other since it was to risky to expose themselves. Early theory though

Explain to me why yoyo has moved to be your top suspect and what does the no-vote have to do with it?

[ghug]

I'm not going to wear it all then. I wasn't the only one around.

Do you scum read that pool of people (the on-liner non-movers) more now, and why?

Eh, every townie that didn't fix it didn't fix it.

You've done this before though, I think, which makes it both less likely to be scum indicative and also indicative of a general issue.

As for everyone else, it's a point towards scumminess in a vacuum, but I'd like to know who was actually here and why they chose to do nothing before concluding.

[Hamilton Brian]

I like the pace of this game a lot more than the last but I overestimated thinking people would flip with like half an hour left. Kicking myself for not doing it before I got off. Yoyo has moved to my top suspect because of the no-kill thing and being the one tied. I think one opposing team scum was in the yoyo train but not the other since it was to risky to expose themselves. Early theory though

So are you saying, If I can follow your thinking linearlly, that yoyo, who is mafia, had a busser on their wagon?

Who's the busser?

[Hamilton Brian]

I will not be moving

HB, BB, Yoyo, Colby and I all here, watching for the flippy flip

I’ll leave it up to brain to tie break. I wouldn’t mind a no-kill tbh so Im cool here

Col7by said they'd be the one to break the tie.

I am still getting Brain's last post a chance to swirl in my head.

So at least one mafia on each wagon?

bona, the hero we need

kill bozo nerds

Here's the last set of posts to end the day. You can see clearly, from spirit's pov that they, myself, brain, colby, and yoyo are on, then bona pops in as well.

[Col7by]

I like the pace of this game a lot more than the last but I overestimated thinking people would flip with like half an hour left. Kicking myself for not doing it before I got off. Yoyo has moved to my top suspect because of the no-kill thing and being the one tied. I think one opposing team scum was in the yoyo train but not the other since it was to risky to expose themselves. Early theory though

So are you saying, If I can follow your thinking linearlly, that yoyo, who is mafia, had a busser on their wagon?

Who's the busser?

Is busser means one of their own scum then no. If busser means an opposing team scum then yes

[Hamilton Brian]

I like the pace of this game a lot more than the last but I overestimated thinking people would flip with like half an hour left. Kicking myself for not doing it before I got off. Yoyo has moved to my top suspect because of the no-kill thing and being the one tied. I think one opposing team scum was in the yoyo train but not the other since it was to risky to expose themselves. Early theory though

So are you saying, If I can follow your thinking linearlly, that yoyo, who is mafia, had a busser on their wagon?

Who's the busser?

Is busser means one of their own scum then no. If busser means an opposing team scum then yes

So, busser as in teammate, correct. So then reframe the question. Who's the other spy team member on yoyo's wagon, and why? Or are there two on there? Why?

[Hamilton Brian]

And why do you feel that stands for yoyo but not bozo?

[Yoyoyozo]

I can see this game turning into a game of diplomacy at the end when town’s numbers have dwindled to a minority. If any team has recruited ghug, I’m still unrecruited so pls pick me I’m being so serious right now.

[Hamilton Brian]

cringe; should kill you just for that sentiment.

[Yoyoyozo]

Embrace the cringe. Become unbotherable and the game becomes more fun.

[dargorygel]

##GM NOTE

As stated on Page 1: IF a mafiaSpy attempts to recruit a member from the other team, NOTHING happens. Although the player on the receiving end will be informed of the attempt, AND the recruiter’s identity. Town is NOT informed.
Commentary:
a) “Nothing happens” means no recruitment takes place. The RECRUTED player is informed of what happened, and the identity of the other team’s Original Spy that did the recruiting. The Recruiter receives no information.
b) In the similar case of both Spy teams attempting to recruit the same town player, ‘nothing happens,’ meaning no recruitment takes place. The player who was ‘visited’ does not receive notice that anything happened. And both Spy Team members do NOT see who else visited.
c) TO BE CLEAR: ERGO, the recruiting team never receives information concerning WHY the recruitment failed.

[Yoyoyozo]

Don’t listen to him! Recruit me!!!!!!

[Col7by]

And why do you feel that stands for yoyo but not bozo?

It’s possible. I was suspicious of bozo but feels like more of a town train to me