M 1029: The webMafia Olympics game 1 SPY VS SPY

[Bonatogether]

I have been thinking for a bit, why wasn't I chosen to be mafia? I was a pretty townread person day 1. I haven't played in a while and maybe people didn't see me as particularly important, fine. I do have a history of living pretty long though, and on day 1 I felt like I didn't have a lot of scrutiny outside of HB and maybe ghug but even when I was pushing hard on him he was kind of just lukewarm on me as I recall. I feel like the main reasons are 1) bozo was just more town read and less loud and was just a more likely pick that mostly fit my demographic for a spy who wanted what I can provide. 2) HB had a small murder boner for me on day 1 and that went full mast on day 2 and they maybe saw that coming through the night and thought I'd be an easier miskill or a liability to recruit. Or 3) they thought I'd keep on Ghug like I was all day 1 and he would be an easy miskill they could slide onto without much effort. I feel like Hb, ghug, and I were in mutual conflict and would have been useful to keep as town for easy miskills. Brainbomb drilling haze and to some extent colby would also fit into this category.

Anyway, I am feeling like the answer to yoyo's question is meh. I feel like a lot of town is becoming more checked out due to kind of feeling like town's chance of winning is low and folks are waiting around to be recruited. I think we should probably vote ##vote end and get on with it. Ultimately, i still feel like Bozo is the best bet. I am less keen on HB since I feel like both his murder boner for brain and I are town on town, and I feel like he'd be a useful person to leave town since he goes for people and it is easy to slide onto people after he lays a foundation. I think that was evident from day 1, but also fits with his larger meta. I feel quite confident he was not recruited, not entirely convinced he couldn't be an OG spy but personally my read is coming down the other way. I feel pretty similarly about bona not being recruited because I don't see a whole lot of goodness coming from him being mafia when he could both easily be and generate a miskill since he just hops onto someone and comes off shifty for that. Yoyo isn't the worst kill ever but he is hard flexing his disengaged towny vibe. Harder to tell with colby and haze since they seem to float around, haze has gone on intense posting sessions, but colby drops and leaves consistently. The only person I feel pretty confident is town right now is brain, mostly because he seems like the kind of towny that wouldnt disengage even if he felt it from others. He'd be memeing more if he was evil and starting shit for his own amusement. Unless fatherhood has cooled him, which i don't believe.

At this point, I'm mostly just down to kill bozo. Colby would also be acceptable. Ghug I think has some weird stuff going on this game, his 180 in behavior today could be a turn but could also be trying to seem that way. I feel like the heat I gave him on day 1 may have been enough to make people steer clear of recruiting him. I also think people would maybe steer clear of recruiting him for fear of double recruiting him. Feel the same way about BB. I feel good about bozo being a good chance of being an OG or a recruit, 2nd most likely to me for both is colby. That's why they're my tops. Upon reflection, my gut still says bozo came out scumming on me hard because he could have been trying to protect colby who I was voting for. I feel like his read of me came out of nowhere and was for particularly bad reasons. It is possible colby was pushing for a early day bus of bozo and now has been sticking with it because bozo has been a top wagon and he knows he'd look really sus for coming off it. Not supremely confident in that connection because I don't have a good read on if that's how colby would act, although his pointing out of him voting for bozo seemed like he wasn't aware bussing is a very normal strategy here. Only thing I do feel like I know something is off about bozo. Thats why we end on the boy.

This has messy town vibes.

agree with gronk

[dargorygel]

FINAL TODAY COUNT

It's Tie

bozo (3) colby, spirit, ghug
Yoyoyozo (3) bona, Haze, Ham
Haze (2) brain, Yoyo
Spirit (1) bozo

Let me know what I missed

[dargorygel]

It's Night
YOU MAY NOW POST

[Bonatogether]

thought eod was 6pm

what a weird day looks like?

[SpiritoftheRadio]

Well... Mafia was won now... Good job folks, I wish you luck in joining the mafia team tomorrow fellas

[SpiritoftheRadio]

thought eod was 6pm

what a weird day looks like?

you agreeing I am town as I am posting trying to get you to listen to me was a mega facepalm... understandable i suppose, but i did begin day drinking afterward

[SpiritoftheRadio]

yoyo, are you satisfied?

[SpiritoftheRadio]

I know colby was probably worried about seeming scummy for switching, but he did seem to be the main one I was expecting to. HB seems spooked after switching on D1 and getting it wrong. Bona was backreading. Ghug was in a temple somewhere. Bozo was clowning. Haze wasn't here but was not long ago. Brain didn't like either wagon? idk man, this was a failure. I still think yoyo is town and bozo is scum of some flavor.

[Hamilton Brian]

I know colby was probably worried about seeming scummy for switching, but he did seem to be the main one I was expecting to. HB seems spooked after switching on D1 and getting it wrong. Bona was backreading. Ghug was in a temple somewhere. Bozo was clowning. Haze wasn't here but was not long ago. Brain didn't like either wagon? idk man, this was a failure. I still think yoyo is town and bozo is scum of some flavor.

Solemn town response or internally gleeful mafia response?

I don't know; I don't think bozo is it...unless there is something that can be described via concensus as, "Yeah, this isn't town bozo."

[SpiritoftheRadio]

I know colby was probably worried about seeming scummy for switching, but he did seem to be the main one I was expecting to. HB seems spooked after switching on D1 and getting it wrong. Bona was backreading. Ghug was in a temple somewhere. Bozo was clowning. Haze wasn't here but was not long ago. Brain didn't like either wagon? idk man, this was a failure. I still think yoyo is town and bozo is scum of some flavor.

Solemn town response or internally gleeful mafia response?

I don't know; I don't think bozo is it...unless there is something that can be described via concensus as, "Yeah, this isn't town bozo."

do you agree with my take? were you spooked? You were the one who tied it up.

Even as mafia, I'd rather see an already slow game move along rather than stall.

There will never be consensus on an actual scum, too many people are mafia, even today but definitely tomorrow. The only consensus will be on a town person because town dont know they are and mafia are fine with it either way. You should realize what game you're playing my dude

[Col7by]

Well that sucks I would’ve flipped if I had been here (I said I was going to miss was having dinner). It’s still possible for town to win but most likely that will be very few of us wincon anymore which stinks. I find it frustrating that day 1 when we should’ve went no vote people flipped to avoid but not today.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

[brainbomb]

bozotheclown (3) Col7by SpiritoftheRadio* ghug
Yoyoyozo (3) Bonatogether Haze with a Z Hamilton Brian
Haze with a Z (2) brainbomb Yoyoyozo
SpiritoftheRadio (1) bozotheclown*


DiplomacyandWarfare (4) Bonatogether ghug brainbomb Hamilton Brian
ghug (2) SpiritoftheRadio DiplomacyandWarfare
No‑Kill (1) Col7by
Col7by (1) Yoyoyozo
Yoyoyozo (1) bozotheclown
brainbomb (1) Haze with a Z

Of note colby/bozo, spirit/bozo and ghug/bozo are all very unlikely pairs
Yoyo/bona, yoyo/haze, yoyo/hamilton are all unlikely pairs

From day 1
Yoyo no longer scumreads colby day 2
Bozo no longer scumreads yoyo day 2
Spirit no longer scumreads ghug day 2
Hamilton no longer scumreads ghug day 2


If there are no pairs then mafia possibly worked together today despite knowing who each other were

[SpiritoftheRadio]

why would a one-man scum team ask for advise in the thread

This was associated with Brain making their case on me.

I don't see a mafia bona address a point like this; not countering lets the idea fester in other player's heads.

I think bona is town when they said this.

I will def break a tie this round if there is one close

Another worry for me is the end votes on what, for now, is a tie and would result in No Kill.

This is the post I meant to make it on. I would break a tie

I think that today I would be most comfortable with a yoyo vote based on people I’ve played with or bozo from people I haven’t played with

Tell me why the differentiation and how that factors in your decision-making?

People I’ve played with before I have a better chance at comparing game play to previous games. New players I can’t. I won’t be ok for the rest of the day good luck everyone!

Well that sucks I would’ve flipped if I had been here (I said I was going to miss was having dinner). It’s still possible for town to win but most likely that will be very few of us wincon anymore which stinks. I find it frustrating that day 1 when we should’ve went no vote people flipped to avoid but not today.

"Guys I'll break the tie [...] No I'll definitely break the tie [...] *mistypes dinner post* bye [...] <no kill happens> [...] awe shucks fellas, no one broke the tie, good thing my dinner was yummy and i left my tab up the whole time so it looked like I was looking at the thread through my spaghetti."

[SpiritoftheRadio]

ill do my best to stop being a dick, but figuring out how to quote like that was difficult and I needed to add sarcasm to offset my frustration with it

[Col7by]

This was associated with Brain making their case on me.

I don't see a mafia bona address a point like this; not countering lets the idea fester in other player's heads.

I think bona is town when they said this.

I will def break a tie this round if there is one close

Another worry for me is the end votes on what, for now, is a tie and would result in No Kill.

This is the post I meant to make it on. I would break a tie

Tell me why the differentiation and how that factors in your decision-making?

People I’ve played with before I have a better chance at comparing game play to previous games. New players I can’t. I won’t be ok for the rest of the day good luck everyone!

Well that sucks I would’ve flipped if I had been here (I said I was going to miss was having dinner). It’s still possible for town to win but most likely that will be very few of us wincon anymore which stinks. I find it frustrating that day 1 when we should’ve went no vote people flipped to avoid but not today.

"Guys I'll break the tie [...] No I'll definitely break the tie [...] *mistypes dinner post* bye [...] <no kill happens> [...] awe shucks fellas, no one broke the tie, good thing my dinner was yummy and i left my tab up the whole time so it looked like I was looking at the thread through my spaghetti."

I put ok not on oops

[SpiritoftheRadio]

bozotheclown (3) Col7by SpiritoftheRadio* ghug
Yoyoyozo (3) Bonatogether Haze with a Z Hamilton Brian
Haze with a Z (2) brainbomb Yoyoyozo
SpiritoftheRadio (1) bozotheclown*


DiplomacyandWarfare (4) Bonatogether ghug brainbomb Hamilton Brian
ghug (2) SpiritoftheRadio DiplomacyandWarfare
No‑Kill (1) Col7by
Col7by (1) Yoyoyozo
Yoyoyozo (1) bozotheclown
brainbomb (1) Haze with a Z

Of note colby/bozo, spirit/bozo and ghug/bozo are all very unlikely pairs
Yoyo/bona, yoyo/haze, yoyo/hamilton are all unlikely pairs

From day 1
Yoyo no longer scumreads colby day 2
Bozo no longer scumreads yoyo day 2
Spirit no longer scumreads ghug day 2
Hamilton no longer scumreads ghug day 2


If there are no pairs then mafia possibly worked together today despite knowing who each other were

I still think colby/bozo could be a pair, colby just was nervous and didn't want to move off and saw he could maybe get a tie out of it.

I still scumread ghug also, I just dont feel the need to continually tunnel on him for wanting a no kill because other people have better reasons to be killed imo. He is being a little too flippant out there to be the OG spy, as I've said, I think he is likely turned, but there are some reasons to think he could just be doing dirtbag moves on his own accord. I am like 50/50 on ghug being town vs. being turned, I give his OG spy chance to be really low.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

I will def break a tie this round if there is one close

This is the post I meant to make it on. I would break a tie

People I’ve played with before I have a better chance at comparing game play to previous games. New players I can’t. I won’t be ok for the rest of the day good luck everyone!

Well that sucks I would’ve flipped if I had been here (I said I was going to miss was having dinner). It’s still possible for town to win but most likely that will be very few of us wincon anymore which stinks. I find it frustrating that day 1 when we should’ve went no vote people flipped to avoid but not today.

"Guys I'll break the tie [...] No I'll definitely break the tie [...] *mistypes dinner post* bye [...] <no kill happens> [...] awe shucks fellas, no one broke the tie, good thing my dinner was yummy and i left my tab up the whole time so it looked like I was looking at the thread through my spaghetti."

I put ok not on oops

I know, thats why I said you mistyped. It doesn't absolve you from saying you'll break ties twice and then not. You did leave for dinner 15mins before EoD and it was on a tie and you posted that after it was tied up by Ham and he made this post

Another worry for me is the end votes on what, for now, is a tie and would result in No Kill.

This is the post I meant to make it on. I would break a tie

Thanks for clarifying.

##Vote yoyo

Which to my eye was him banking on you breaking the tie, after which you ran away.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

i made a mistake and the ghug was the final tie vote on bozo, you asked him why before you made the leaving for dinner post, so same principle, I was just wrong about HB tying it.

[brainbomb]

From the based chat
Bona: what a based day. That was so cringe

Haze: im going to be working on my laptop from 8am to 4:02 pm on end of night. Ill miss out on end of night

Bona: based

Haze: tbh you would say that

Bona: cringe

Haze: tbh I really dont remember things because that would just make things harder. Tbh.

Bona: tbh this is based

Haze: what does that even mean?

Bona: skibidi