M 1029: The webMafia Olympics game 1 SPY VS SPY

[dargorygel]

##GM THING

Vote Count 1.03

No Kill (3) Hamilton Brian, ghug, Col7by
Ghug (3) Haze with a Z, SpiritoftheRadio, bozotheclown
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) brainbomb, Bonatogether
Brainbomb (1) DiplomacyandWarfare

Yoyo has not voted, and has not met minimum posting requirements.

On at least one occasion, ‘enemy’ athletes were drugged in the hope of causing them surprisingly good athletic results, so that others would notice and ask for testing. On at least one occasion, ‘enemy’ athletes who WERE taking enhancement drugs had their drugs replaced with a placebo so that their results would be BENEATH expectations and cause suspicion on them from their government.

"Spy work in Athletics is weird."

[Yoyoyozo]

I just thought of an absolutely hilarious scenario. If we eliminate a spy today, the other spy could claim and convert the rest of town if we allow them.We could just chit chat in the meantime

[Yoyoyozo]

##vote Col7by

[SpiritoftheRadio]

I just thought of an absolutely hilarious scenario. If we eliminate a spy today, the other spy could claim and convert the rest of town if we allow them.We could just chit chat in the meantime

Most communist game strategy award goes to yoyo

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I just thought of an absolutely hilarious scenario. If we eliminate a spy today, the other spy could claim and convert the rest of town if we allow them.We could just chit chat in the meantime

Theoretically...?
This would be 6:2
by the time it got to 4 4 all players currently on the maf team would win.
So the spy team would have to choose two players to try and convince.
If a spy made this offer, I would probably just hammer them tho.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I just thought of an absolutely hilarious scenario. If we eliminate a spy today, the other spy could claim and convert the rest of town if we allow them.We could just chit chat in the meantime

Most communist game strategy award goes to yoyo

Fan theory: SpiritoftheRadio is a democratic-capitalist spy
like the US or whatever

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

anyway town probably has like a 20% chance of winning this
(talking about the town team, not us town players)
so Ima pivot to ##vote ghug bc if I die today I almost definitely lose. I don't have much of a scumread on this but its better than the me wagon.

[brainbomb]

##vote col7by

I think colby is scurred

[Col7by]

Sorry just got back from our softball game. See I got votes interesting

[Col7by]

##vote col7by

I think colby is scurred

I feel like this has no basis besides for me voting you earlier

[brainbomb]

##vote col7by

I think colby is scurred

I feel like this has no basis besides for me voting you earlier

Its due to you leaving my vote behind and moving to the safety of the no kill crew

[brainbomb]

Hi I’m Kiribati because I like the name nice to meet you

Also what is Kiribati? Never heard of that. In my notes from page 1 I put a ? Next to that

[Col7by]

Hi I’m Kiribati because I like the name nice to meet you

Also what is Kiribati? Never heard of that. In my notes from page 1 I put a ? Next to that

Country in Oceania. Along with other island like Tuvalu, Vanuatu, etc

[Col7by]

##vote col7by

I think colby is scurred

I feel like this has no basis besides for me voting you earlier

Its due to you leaving my vote behind and moving to the safety of the no kill crew

Your vote was to have one somewhere but then I tried to think about strategy after. Gonna review your spreadsheet soon

[brainbomb]

Me: Leaves to do smh IRL
Brainbomb in 15 minutes: wow dip just left without answering my questions see according to my data in this one specific cherry picked game dip ghosted people as maf so therefore dip must be maf.

You were gone for easily like 12-14 hours between these things happening. This is a ridiculous self defense.

[Bonatogether]

The only voting motivation the 2 mafia have D1 is not to be the DK.

we should force everyone to nearly be the dk and see who freaks out

Getting DKed D1 is not a good option for town either in this game, since it makes it hard for town to win and eliminates the chance to win by being recruited to a winning mafia team.

what's your proposal for finding scum then?

[Bonatogether]

I just thought of an absolutely hilarious scenario. If we eliminate a spy today, the other spy could claim and convert the rest of town if we allow them.We could just chit chat in the meantime

is that playing to wincon for those who remain town?

[Bonatogether]

##call gm can you give me a +1

[ghug]

No kill folks are forgetting the mafia are two different teams whose main win condition is eliminating each other. People are counting them as the same team in their logic, makes no sense. They want to kill each other way more than town because if they do, they get an optional nk and cannot be nked themselves. That means surviving town will likely be able to coast for some time while they duke it out making the standard town vs. mafia counting irrelevant until the other team is on the back foot. Plus HB's logic of saying things like well in a couple nights we could have majority mafia and it'll be game over is kind of like... well yeah but also most of us won't be town anymore... idk, you just gotta play your best from the position you're at currently, and to me that means we kill. 1/4 chance of chopping off the head of one mafia team from the get go is a bit too good to pass up to me.

I buy Dip's thinking on this as kind of genuine, HB's a bit too but less so, but I don't really buy Ghug's take on this at all. If it was baiting people to go along with a bad no kill to see who he could catch, I kind of get it, but he definitely wasn't being real there. Everyone being invested in killing day 1 is kind of a main stay of the genre, if that isn't the case the set up is pretty messy, since we just end up sitting around with thumbs in our bums for a while. Game set up makes sense to kill today for town, maybe slightly less so for scum because while they are likely to live, they have a 1/8 chance of losing immediately, I could see safe boy scum wanting a no kill more than a town would. My feeling is ##vote ghug, since he is the only one I feel is being disingenuous so far.

Everyone being invested in killing D1 is a mainstay of mafia. This isn't mafia. There's no connection information to be gleaned today at all.

[brainbomb]

Over last ten games, town has eliminated a mafia day 1 4/10 tries
If you count sweet being shot by a gun day 1 its 5/10 day 1 occurences in past 10 games.

Thats actually alot better than it used to be