M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[FlaviusAetius]

After I catchup Im going to do a KOTP isolation post with the mentality that he is not mafia he just seems like a random lurker

[FlaviusAetius]

I was not confident on any mafia, and missing could cost town the game. I think we need to use the shot today, as well as any other shots if other town guns activated.

Good point. Why are you so confident today that Jamiet and I are scum, but last phase you were not? You could have shot one of us!

I am still not certain of anything, but D2 I did not know Balki was mafia. Since we now probably do not have anymore mis-kills available, I plan on using the gun D3.

Just wondering is that actually true? Do we really only have one miskill left? I think its several

7-3 rn
6-3 if we MK
5-3 due to NK
one for spare incase mafia have a gun or you shoot wrong

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny - Why are you so sure about King you are ebd voting him?
By the way, he is one I can vote today other then the three I nominated.

And why Flavius is town?

I like Flavius’ energy and posts. I think it’s from a towny mentality.

I got a guilty scan on king.

Ok,..in seriousness, it was a gag that turned into a reaction test that got to the point where him voting himself sells me on being scum.

I lost my page but I had to respond to this, I agree what king has done D3 has not been great, but we have literally two other days to go off of how can we vote him off of one comment

Tell me what you think of King's first 2 days

[DemonRHK]

Good point. Why are you so confident today that Jamiet and I are scum, but last phase you were not? You could have shot one of us!

I am still not certain of anything, but D2 I did not know Balki was mafia. Since we now probably do not have anymore mis-kills available, I plan on using the gun D3.

Just wondering is that actually true? Do we really only have one miskill left? I think its several

7-3 rn
6-3 if we MK
5-3 due to NK
one for spare incase mafia have a gun or you shoot wrong

Bozo revealed, he has to shoot today.

Assuming just the one gun, We enter D4 anywhere from 4-3 worst case to 6-1 best case.

Be aware, this is if there are no scum guns active today (and if bozo isn't scum, which I think is unlikely)

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey didn't the GM say at the start that D3 onwards would be 24 hour Day phases?

Why is this day still going?

##CALL GM ??

[Jamiet99uk]

Why is the game not being run to the published timetable?

I am very confused.

[damo666]

Hey didn't the GM say at the start that D3 onwards would be 24 hour Day phases?

Why is this day still going?

##CALL GM ??

No. Brain said that.

It's from D6.

A simple page 1 check tells you that.

[damo666]

Won't be around EOD. There's a certain football match needs watching.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey didn't the GM say at the start that D3 onwards would be 24 hour Day phases?

Why is this day still going?

##CALL GM ??

No. Brain said that.

It's from D6.

A simple page 1 check tells you that.

Hmm.

The original layout in the sign-up thread said 24 hour days from D3. Darg must have changed his mind then.

[FlaviusAetius]

Why not RHK?

Too towny. Pointing out too many good things and pushing in good ways.

Can you be more specific? For example, did you consider this pointing out a good thing:

##Vote Bunny

I don't feel any hunting from bunny. Just a lot of one liners and hedging. The vote pattern on D1 throws me off too. Way too much waffling to the point of trying to drum up artificial pressure. Just seems disinterested?

That was several days ago the Bunny of today is nothing like Demon is describing

[FlaviusAetius]

I didn't think it mattered. No it does not change my read of Jamiet. No, I was being sarcastic. He obviously is not lying.

Why would he be surprised by your "sudden" town read of him if you have been town reading him since at least 2 hours before D1 EOD?

My sudden ACTIVE Townread of him. That is what he is surprised by.

As opposed to my previous PASSIVE town read of him.

There is a huge difference.

E.g. I passively Townread RHK. But if I had time to critically analyze him in the most rigorous way possible, I would either find reasons to possibly scumread him, or my passive Townread of him would solidify into an active Townread of him.

Im very surprised that out of everyone left you are choosing Jamie to townclear that doesnt make much sense

[FlaviusAetius]

Bozo, I've done these interrogations with you before, I know if you are Town I am not changing your mind. And if you are Mafia it is fruitless.

Please stop badgering me unless it is actually important. It is distressing that you are distracting me from productively contributing.

I am finishing my case on Flav now.

Maybe you dont change Bozo's mind but you could change others I for one found it helpful

[FlaviusAetius]

@bozo are you going to announce your shot in order to avoid a double tap by way of voting or another gun being active?

I haven't considered a downside but nothing immediately springs to mind.

Flashwagon? The only thing bozo should assure us it that the top wagon(s) will not be shot

[damo666]

@bozo are you going to announce your shot in order to avoid a double tap by way of voting or another gun being active?

I haven't considered a downside but nothing immediately springs to mind.

Flashwagon? The only thing bozo should assure us it that the top wagon(s) will not be shot

What if there is another unannounced active town gun?

[FlaviusAetius]

Bozo is playing the role of detective, but he is wearing a mask. As I have just demonstrated, he is getting so deep into play-acting the investigative scum-hunter, that he is losing track of his own arguments and forgetting about very significant post exchanges which he himself was part of.

TBH everyone does that once in awhile, just point it out to him , saying he needs to reevaluate

[FlaviusAetius]

@bozo are you going to announce your shot in order to avoid a double tap by way of voting or another gun being active?

I haven't considered a downside but nothing immediately springs to mind.

Flashwagon? The only thing bozo should assure us it that the top wagon(s) will not be shot

What if there is another unannounced active town gun?

There isnt
brainbomb died EoN2 - He was Heath Barkley (of The Big Valley), a Day 2 lawman.
President Eden died EoD2 - He was the Sheriff!
worcej died EoD2 - He was an innocent cowboy!
Chaqa died EoD2 - He was an innocent cowboy!

3 people with guns are dead

[FlaviusAetius]

The other towns that died are down as VT's , worcej and chaqa are unactivated lawmen

[FlaviusAetius]

I think that Sweet is right.

I think we are both town, and this whole thing between us since D1 has been a distracting mess.

##Vote Bozo

First part correct.

Vote bad. Bozo is town and is either a poor detective or conducting a reaction test experiment (which is now spoilt).

AGREED bozo being a bad detective is NAI not scum indicative

[FlaviusAetius]

Bozo is playing the role of detective, but he is wearing a mask. As I have just demonstrated, he is getting so deep into play-acting the investigative scum-hunter, that he is losing track of his own arguments and forgetting about very significant post exchanges which he himself was part of.

Agreed. @bozo unless you shoot scum today you’re in my top 3.

If he doesnt shoot scum today we might not get a chance to vote him, I think he is town but whether you think he is scum or not doesnt matter for today

[FlaviusAetius]

Damo's thinking:

I'm assuming Bozo is town. I believe his lawman claim particularly the way he hid it mid post EON. I do not agree with his reads though.

I'm also assuming Bunny is town. He has seemed town throughout and his trolling of sweet by the joke sheriffclaim can only come from a town standpoint.

Jamie and Sweet cannot possibly both be scum by nature of the thread. I think Jamie screams town and although I don't like sweet's method of play this game I think it's from a town pov. Also I think the brain kill was to try and get a mk out of this pair (sweet being more likely).

I believe kotp has been ill (get well soon) but this does not preclude him from being scum. I suspect he was absent from scumchat as he was from the main thread and when he apologetically returned they decided to gamble on a fake RB claim knowing he was in grave danger of being day killed. Ofc scum may have RBd town kotp to create such suspicions and we go in ever decreasing wifom circles so one just has to decide. I think kotp is scum with about a 75% chance.

As you know I abhor Flav's posting style but I think he's town although I just have this nagging doubt he just might be a nostly townread deepscum. Say about 15% chance.

These leaves me with {rdr, lfischl, demonRHK} each of whom I'm unsure about but given my assumptions must include at least one scum member. I put there scum% as 60 for rdr and 75 for the other two. I have forced the %s to sum to 3 and are by definition somewhat arbitrary. For convenience I am denoting this set as UNCLE since at least one man from UNCLE must be scum.

Possible scum triplets and chance based on above:

kotp + 2 from UNCLE 63.75%

all 3 UNCLE 21.25%

kotp + 1 from UNCLE + Flav 11.25%

2 from UNCLE + Flav 3.75%

As previously stated my best guess is kotp lfischl demonRHK.

I suggest we vote kotp today and bozo shoot a man from UNCLE.

I think we need to seriously consider the possibility that the pushing on KOTP is shielding the other two lurkers and the push on KOTP is using several prominent people in the game's previous reads on him
I really thought it was RDR but multiple things I said against him proved to be not true or not as dramatic as I thought
I originally picked fischl out of protest against KOTP but now I think it might actually be him