M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[bozotheclown]

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Please remove the end vote, I think we should use the full D3.

[rdrivera2005]

You have to list 3 for your votes to count, though.

I am completely lost in this game. But I think Brain posts have some merit and I also think Bozo have a sound logic at this point.

So, I would say it's lfischl, Jamiet and Flavius.

It can be Sweet, but that play on D1 which HB played along did't seems a scum ploy. And I don't fell him and Jamiet was all scum theater.

You said you couldnt participate D2 or D1 much is D3 going to be different? 7 messages is not enough...

You are not the one telling what is enough. You post a lot and say very little.

I told I wouldn't be around at weekend and I wasn't. I am never a big poster but I am following the game and giving my thoughts. If you want to come after me, be my guess, but this kind of post looks scummy as it have no real thought you just look at the bot stats.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote King - Last post looks like caught scum.

Don't think we should end right now.

[FlaviusAetius]

Why wouldn't I? It would be like if Pirate got shot. Why would Scum ever in a thousand years do that????

Pirate would be a bad choice for scum to shoot because if he is town, he is an easy potential miskill, due to his lurking.

You just described worcej's play as well....

I dont think worcej was a lurker he was a skater still not great but better than KOTP

[FlaviusAetius]

I am completely lost in this game. But I think Brain posts have some merit and I also think Bozo have a sound logic at this point.

So, I would say it's lfischl, Jamiet and Flavius.

It can be Sweet, but that play on D1 which HB played along did't seems a scum ploy. And I don't fell him and Jamiet was all scum theater.

You said you couldnt participate D2 or D1 much is D3 going to be different? 7 messages is not enough...

You are not the one telling what is enough. You post a lot and say very little.

I told I wouldn't be around at weekend and I wasn't. I am never a big poster but I am following the game and giving my thoughts. If you want to come after me, be my guess, but this kind of post looks scummy as it have no real thought you just look at the bot stats.

I dont care if you dont post a lot but if you arent posting quality stuff either then you are just a lurker which you are...I havent spoken much D3 but I am here now so read what I say
I do say a lot and it is often deep analysis, I respond to people and make my own arguments, why say I dont ??

[BunnyGo]

Morning all. I'm caught up.

bozo is town. I think his waving the gun around threatening is dumb, but scum don't claim guns.

The RB claim from kotp is fucking me up. With a dead cop the RB is useless, why even use it?

So there are two schools of thought:

The RB is real, and the scum team has no goddamn clue what they are doing. Which would make me suspect Flav, fish, and likely a heavy lurk like rdr.

The RB is a ploy, which leads me to a big brain play attempt, I think king was browbeat into the claim by a teammate. That leads me to Jamie. Jamie, Flav, fish?

The issue lies with bozo right now. Us winning or losing is on him. He's going to fucking shoot me, and has made no attempt to hide it. That means if we kill wrong, AND scum has a gun, we lose.

We have to be right today, and there is one scum I am sure on.

##Vote Flav

And for senor 2nd amendment, I'm currently on Flav, fish, rdr.

Why do you not assume scum!bozo would claim a gun? It seems a straightforward bluff.

Why do you never consider King is just lying scum.

[BunnyGo]

I guess there is a non-zero chance Worc shot Chaqa, but I doubt it.

##CALL GM

Is the 4th flavor ONLY flavor, or were there really 4 shots?

Why worcej shooting Chaqa but not Chaqa shooting worcej?

Because I respect Chaqa and would assumed we wouldn't pull an anti-town play like firing unannounced. Worc is more prone to off the cuff plays like that and claiming in the aftermath.

They didn’t flip as lawmen the way brain did.

Why did you miss this?

[damo666]

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[DemonRHK]

Why do you not assume scum!bozo would claim a gun? It seems a straightforward bluff.

Why do you never consider King is just lying scum.

- Bozo was under no pressure, claiming a gun automatically makes him 50/50 to be scum. I don't picture a scumbo claiming to have a gun, just fire in private and let us suffer.

- I wouldn't say I never consider it, but it's a lot of wine, and Oocam's would lean to the easy explanation being true. Plus, if scum wanted to try to townclear with it, use it on someone not under heavy suspicion IMO.

I'd say I'm...60/40 on king being scum, and more 80/20 on flav.

[BunnyGo]

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[sweetandcool]

Something you share @sweet

RHK has been low content generally (though today he has picked it up a notch), that is true.

But he has provided several good takes that feel very Town motivated.

It is true he could be using TMI to go deep, but that doesn't fit with the psychology of the scumteam which is attempting to win the game today.

For now he is Town. If I have time to focus and assess him, then I can update that read with more confidence.

[sweetandcool]

How is that not high quality content? I am literally commenting on what you guys were talking about giving opinions is like the very essence of this game

You are correct, what sweetandcool is doing looks very scum indicative.

I still think we should kill a lurker today (KOTP, RDR, LFISCHL) but I still agree that sweet needs to be shot, if not he needs to go D4

This is Flav pushing for a MK today, while being in a position to plausibly shift to bus a teammate if things turn against Mafia.

[bozotheclown]

Morning all. I'm caught up.

bozo is town. I think his waving the gun around threatening is dumb, but scum don't claim guns.

The RB claim from kotp is fucking me up. With a dead cop the RB is useless, why even use it?

So there are two schools of thought:

The RB is real, and the scum team has no goddamn clue what they are doing. Which would make me suspect Flav, fish, and likely a heavy lurk like rdr.

The RB is a ploy, which leads me to a big brain play attempt, I think king was browbeat into the claim by a teammate. That leads me to Jamie. Jamie, Flav, fish?

The issue lies with bozo right now. Us winning or losing is on him. He's going to fucking shoot me, and has made no attempt to hide it. That means if we kill wrong, AND scum has a gun, we lose.

We have to be right today, and there is one scum I am sure on.

##Vote Flav

And for senor 2nd amendment, I'm currently on Flav, fish, rdr.

How do you not have kingofthepirates as mafia in the "RB is a ploy" list?

[DemonRHK]

Why worcej shooting Chaqa but not Chaqa shooting worcej?

Because I respect Chaqa and would assumed we wouldn't pull an anti-town play like firing unannounced. Worc is more prone to off the cuff plays like that and claiming in the aftermath.

They didn’t flip as lawmen the way brain did.

Why did you miss this?

I hadn't thought about it at that point. I was mostly emotional posting there. Brain wasn't dead then, and I'd forgotten about the change in flip after getting gunned. I don't go back and look at my Role PM a ton when it fucking says vanilla every goddamn game.

[sweetandcool]

##vote lfischl
most confident scumread of mine. From the discussion I see, I'm growing more and more confident that the RB was intended to draw suspicion onto me and push the MK. Maybe I'd have been better off keeping that to myself. Whatever.

In this game, despite lurking starting N1 (although acting lost D1), he has demonstrated an understanding of the game state. He voted Eden D2, who had no votes on him FFS. This is unprecedented!!! He always sheeps when he is too busy to properly play.

1) what does FFS mean?
2) I had my reasons for voting eden, as mentioned in my post! and I was the top wagon at the time, so why in the world would I sheep that? Other wagons felt more town to me. Balki was acceptable at the time too, but I felt scum eden more.

I'll be away for quite a while, probably missing EOD btw.

FFS= For Flavius' Sake

Yes, you had a reason for voting Eden. Which demonstrates you are paying attention to the game and generally know what's going on. Which absolutely does not fit the profile of Town Pirate being too busy to properly engage with the game.

Town Pirate would be sheeping the top wagon, or possibly if engaged enough sheep one of the main counterwagons due to disagreeing with the top wagon.

Your behavior contradicts your claim that you are too busy to participate.

Please note, I don't care whether you actually are busy IRL (and as a policy I assume IRL claims are real), but you have demonstrated that you are more engaged with the game than what you are attempting to portray.

[sweetandcool]

##vote lfischl
most confident scumread of mine. From the discussion I see, I'm growing more and more confident that the RB was intended to draw suspicion onto me and push the MK. Maybe I'd have been better off keeping that to myself. Whatever.

In this game, despite lurking starting N1 (although acting lost D1), he has demonstrated an understanding of the game state. He voted Eden D2, who had no votes on him FFS. This is unprecedented!!! He always sheeps when he is too busy to properly play.

1) what does FFS mean?
2) I had my reasons for voting eden, as mentioned in my post! and I was the top wagon at the time, so why in the world would I sheep that? Other wagons felt more town to me. Balki was acceptable at the time too, but I felt scum eden more.

I'll be away for quite a while, probably missing EOD btw.

Excuse me why are you voting fischl ?? I am only voting him until I see actual arguments for you, If you were looking at the discussion you would see that...why is fischl confident for you?

Cool, lfisch and Flav aren't paired.

This smacks of prepping to turn against teammate Pirate if things go south.

[sweetandcool]

Why speculate during the night? If you didn't shoot worcej, why did you not speculate about who shot him? Why did you claim that you shot worcej?

I didn't think about it. There was concern that we shouldn't narrow the pool of potential guns for Mafia to go after.

So I claimed in order to make their NK choice a little harder. Common sense really.

I just assume whoever shot worcej was Town, and I don't really care who.

Wouldnt that make it easier ? Because now they know you dont have a gun anymore?? This makes no sense and you should stop talking about it

You might be right. But Mafia obviously isn't NKing me ever, regardless of my alignment.

[DemonRHK]

How do you not have kingofthepirates as mafia in the "RB is a ploy" list?

Flav tunnel. And brainrot.

Jamie is thr only person I could think of who would try to pull off a ballsy play like that and I am sold on Flav and fish. I guess it should be king instead of fish in that case, but w/e.

[FlaviusAetius]

I didn't think about it. There was concern that we shouldn't narrow the pool of potential guns for Mafia to go after.

So I claimed in order to make their NK choice a little harder. Common sense really.

I just assume whoever shot worcej was Town, and I don't really care who.

If you assume a town shot worcej, why do you believe my claim?

Why wouldn't I?

Any number of gunmen can be activated any day.

Three shots occurred, I suppose a fourth activation is unlikely, but certainly possible.

I guess I didn't think how unlikely it is, from a probability standpoint.

I agree I think we have a shrodinger situation all guns being activated and no guns being activated is equally likely and unlikely

[DemonRHK]

So I work tomorrow, thus I am going to try to get a super detailed post done well before EoD. Bozo, you just wanna go ahead and confirm I ain't making it to night? I wanna know if I can make plans for this weekend.