M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[FlaviusAetius]

You bet your sweet bippy I'm unCCed!

I dare someone to CC me. Then we'll have verified scum up on the block, even if I lose the thunderdome somehow.

NO ONE should CC you

Someone did.

This is actually >insane< sweet this was your MOMENT to prove everything you did was right and you >still< dont give it up I just dont understnad I just CANT understand this is insane you gotta go sweet I was your >biggest< defender but this is just something else

[damo666]

Mafia please shoot Flav. I can't stand the style.

Thanks

I stopped capitalizing for you...>emphasizing< things is important in a text game like this, >but< I dont know how to do it without being annoying give me an idea bro

It simply isn't necessary in every single post. All you are doing is undervaluing the emphasis.

Just try it. People will understand what you are saying without the punctuation theatrics and will be more inclined to read you posts rather than skim or simply eyeroll and ignore.

[Jamiet99uk]

omg why did someone add donkey to this otherwise perfect gif -_-

in fairness it adequately describes you for that LOL

He is a fucking Donkey, it is accurate

[DemonRHK]

Huh.

Well, guilty is a guilty, leggo bois!

##Vote Balki

##End

I don’t think we should end vote here

Uh, why?

If Balki is a gunned scum and was trying to hold, get his ass before he can fucking PM a shot.

[President Eden]

Huh.

Well, guilty is a guilty, leggo bois!

##Vote Balki

##End

I don’t think we should end vote here

Uh, why?

If Balki is a gunned scum and was trying to hold, get his ass before he can fucking PM a shot.

yo that’s lit

##END

[lfischl]

Wait for the CCs, isn’t an easy way to resolve this just to have the D2 lawmen if alive shoot balki?

If scum vote KOTP or sweet

If town vote eden

[FlaviusAetius]

Actually, best not to resolve the CC battle today, especially since there is a chance this is VT theater.

##VOTE King

YOU were the one who said you >wanted< to do a thunderdome with someone this makes >no sense<

[damo666]

Huh.

Well, guilty is a guilty, leggo bois!

##Vote Balki

##End

I don’t think we should end vote here

Uh, why?

If Balki is a gunned scum and was trying to hold, get his ass before he can fucking PM a shot.

This could be scum Demon knowing Eden has a false scan.

[President Eden]

My gut said not to endvote either but Demon is 100% on point. He might not know his goose is cooked yet

[lfischl]

Huh.

Well, guilty is a guilty, leggo bois!

##Vote Balki

##End

I don’t think we should end vote here

Uh, why?

If Balki is a gunned scum and was trying to hold, get his ass before he can fucking PM a shot.

Oh shoot yeah forgot about the guns ##end

[lfischl]

I don’t think we should end vote here

Uh, why?

If Balki is a gunned scum and was trying to hold, get his ass before he can fucking PM a shot.

Oh shoot yeah forgot about the guns ##end

By forgot about the guns I mean I forgot mafia shoots as well

[DemonRHK]

Wait for the CCs, isn’t an easy way to resolve this just to have the D2 lawmen if alive shoot balki?

If scum vote KOTP or sweet

If town vote eden

This is a scum stall.

[damo666]

Wait for the CCs, isn’t an easy way to resolve this just to have the D2 lawmen if alive shoot balki?

If scum vote KOTP or sweet

If town vote eden

And kill who today?

[brainbomb]

Cases Have A Questionable Affect on people.

##End

[President Eden]

Wait for the CCs, isn’t an easy way to resolve this just to have the D2 lawmen if alive shoot balki?

If scum vote KOTP or sweet

If town vote eden

Nice thought, but a few issues:
• We may not have an activated lawman paying attention to the thread
• This CC isn’t legit
• I can be wrong about Balki and be the cop 25% of the time here, so the flip won’t make it clear who to shoot anyway

[Chaqa]

##Vote brain

FUN & interactive

You were voting me and now follow me. lol

I'm nothing if not pragmatic.

[President Eden]

Wait for the CCs, isn’t an easy way to resolve this just to have the D2 lawmen if alive shoot balki?

If scum vote KOTP or sweet

If town vote eden

This is a scum stall.

Ehh not so sure. But we can resolve it later

[Chaqa]

First, much respect and props to my adversary Balki in our skirmishes today. If you are mafia, you’re forcing me to sacrifice any future equity in this role to seal the deal, respect. If you are town, sorry in advance because this is gonna be a shitshow lol.

Second, thanks to my erstwhile Deputy sweetandcool for giving me the cover needed to complete my investigation.

I am the Sheriff. I discovered last night that Balki Bartokomous is a bad guy. I am highly confident that sweetandcool is town and that kingofthepirates is mafia. I propose that a Lawman shoot KOTP and that we vote out Balki here. We can do the reverse as well.

Some commentary:

1. Why am I revealing now?

I believe I’ve sufficiently obvtowned and threatened the mafia enough that I will die before I get another scan off—whether through outlaw shot or nightkill. I also believe we badly need to hit mafia here to get back on track after the Desperado fiasco. The payoff of hitting mafia!Balki here is worth sacrificing any future equity in my role.

2. Isn’t it true that your scan could be wrong?

YES, but we don’t have anything close to as good as what I’m serving up, and we badly need a hit here. For those who don’t know, the Sheriff works like this:

- 50% of the time I’m a normal cop with fully reliable scans.
- 25% of the time I’m a “lazy” cop, meaning my FIRST scan is reliable, but all subsequent scans are just copies of the first scan. This means I’m effectively a one-shot cop in this world, but don’t know it immediately.
- 25% of the time I’m a “bad” cop, meaning all my scans are the opposite of the truth. In this world, Balki is town and I’ve possibly blown the entire game by revealing.

I decided a 25% chance of busting is an acceptable risk, given what’s at stake. If Balki is mafia, the odds actually favor him NOT having an active gun yet, so killing him saves a miskill for later. I think we’ve also got a LOT of good associative reads to work with if Balki does flip. And with due respect to my teammates, none of all have a case anywhere close to 75% reliability.

So we’re fucking going for it and if we lose we lose.

3. So sweetandcool fakeclaimed, why don’t you think he’s scum?

Balki’s push on sweet near the end of N1 doesn’t make any sense as SvS to me. This setup strongly incentivizes mafia not to bus early because they don’t know when their individual members will get guns. Balki’s push had no prior foundation that required him to remain consistent, and he had a cornucopia of other targets, so choosing sweetandcool to bus there is dubious to me. sweet also didn’t do much in the way of possible scum theater to further sell Balki’s towniness for the push OR to get towncred himself if Balki died unexpectedly.

I also strongly believe sweet had zero incentive to do his fakeclaiming shenanigans as scum, and I think it’s telling that the most vocal advocate of that theory today is my guilty scan target. If you’re voting him or thinking of voting him because you’re annoyed with his shenanigans, you need to reassess.

4. Why KOTP?

I noted earlier in the game that KOTP joined the foodcoats wagon at an opportunistic moment. Others have commented on why he’s suspicious generally.

I’m just going to call attention to Balki’s stretch to townread KOTP:

https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=416732#p416732

This screams mafia rehabilitating mafia teammate to me. Chaqa rightly noted that KOTP’s posts were fluffy and left little impression. I think there’s a somewhat reasonable argument that Balki was perhaps reaching to give a nuanced townread on someone who would flip town, to be fair, so I’ll leave it at that.

5. Other thoughts?

I didn’t like the way Balki and Bunny were playing grab-ass in the thread early in the long N1. Bunny also dropped off a cliff and hasn’t done much to earn a positive impression in his return. I think there’s a nontrivial chance of teammates being there.

Chaqa, Flavius, and sweetandcool are in my never-kill pile.
bozo, brain, damo, Demon, Jamie, lfischl, rdr all feel good to me.
I guess that literally just leaves a team of Balki/KOTP/Bunny/worcej lol… I’m sure I don’t have the full solve for you, but I firmly believe in my never-kill pile, I firmly believe in Balki/KOTP.

##VOTE Eden

I hard CC you.

Popcorn time

[worcej]

##end

RHK is hard town

[FlaviusAetius]

My gut said not to endvote either but Demon is 100% on point. He might not know his goose is cooked yet

Dont you need >everyone< to end it? Balki can delay it until the end no matter >what<