M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[lfischl]

What's the case on food?

1.
Foodcoat said sweet is going to be claiming a role because he thinks its optimal play and he KNEW about this head of time. Instead of EXPLAINING to sweet why it would be wrong he chose to do it here. Fine whatever.

2.
He says we should NOT be voting for sweet...why? Because he legit claimed a town role how can we vote for someone like that when its so easy to verify?
YET
He then goes onto sweet; WHY? Never explained

3.
During the whole Jamie thing do you know what food did? He votes DAMO. To "diffuse the tensions" like? Jamie gets mad early game when people go on him for being mad, it always happens and the wagon ALWAYS dies. Do you know what that whole thing DOES tell us though? INFORMATION. foodcoats is trying to diffuse the tensions for no reason...

4.
And you know what else about that damo vote I just went back and look at this; he INITIALLY said that we should be going after lurkers D1, then flipped when I pressed on him again to say it was just one big joke.

He is flipflopping nad I dont like it not one bit I want explanations and now.
SWEET you should NOT go for foodcoats unless its SOON. Go for someone ELSE you think is mafia or better yet wait until D2.
IF you are Desperado that is, if you think the game is up and you are going to die N1 then start shooting man dont wait until EOD.

Like this post, I’m fine voting food here. I will be driving a good part of tomorrow so I’m gonna throw my vote on ##vote food for now just so I don’t get modkilled, I should be around before EOD just not sure exactly when

Was your vote for foodcoats based on this one post? Were you confident Flavius is town?

I had him in my scumreads before but wanted to see the full case from someone I had as a townread before I voted, I was fairly confident flav was down after the BB/flav things so I felt confident in the wagon

[Chaqa]

Sorry how absent I've been...work sucks. And holidays are fun...and between that mafia takes a back seat. I see that gets me wagoned. That's too easy for opportunistic scum, but I doubt they planned to push me.

I'll not vote an un-CC'd PR this close to KiLo (because of guns we must be close).
I'll back my early reads of chaqa, flav, damo as town.

##vote bozo. He's felt silly day 1 (which is NAI), but his mech analysis was surprisingly lacking.

That makes it 3 out of 3 for players I voted for today scum reading me as a result.

I think in this case it's probably more reflective of your play than ours.

[lfischl]

What are people’s thoughts on an RDR wagon here?

[sweetandcool]

1.
Foodcoat said sweet is going to be claiming a role because he thinks its optimal play and he KNEW about this head of time. Instead of EXPLAINING to sweet why it would be wrong he chose to do it here. Fine whatever.

2.
He says we should NOT be voting for sweet...why? Because he legit claimed a town role how can we vote for someone like that when its so easy to verify?
YET
He then goes onto sweet; WHY? Never explained

3.
During the whole Jamie thing do you know what food did? He votes DAMO. To "diffuse the tensions" like? Jamie gets mad early game when people go on him for being mad, it always happens and the wagon ALWAYS dies. Do you know what that whole thing DOES tell us though? INFORMATION. foodcoats is trying to diffuse the tensions for no reason...

4.
And you know what else about that damo vote I just went back and look at this; he INITIALLY said that we should be going after lurkers D1, then flipped when I pressed on him again to say it was just one big joke.

He is flipflopping nad I dont like it not one bit I want explanations and now.
SWEET you should NOT go for foodcoats unless its SOON. Go for someone ELSE you think is mafia or better yet wait until D2.
IF you are Desperado that is, if you think the game is up and you are going to die N1 then start shooting man dont wait until EOD.

Apparently lfisch likes it and King. Anyone else? I think this case is not even a case.

1. So apparently we should have scumread Food because he didn't convince me before the game even started to not fake claim?

2. He understood that what I was doing was NAI. Hating what I was doing and voting me is a reaction garnered from several other players and is not unnatural. Certainly not scum indicative in any way.

3. He was clearly joking and this is a preposterous line of attack.

4. Is the same as 3.

People really ate this up?????

[BunnyGo]

Sorry how absent I've been...work sucks. And holidays are fun...and between that mafia takes a back seat. I see that gets me wagoned. That's too easy for opportunistic scum, but I doubt they planned to push me.

I'll not vote an un-CC'd PR this close to KiLo (because of guns we must be close).
I'll back my early reads of chaqa, flav, damo as town.

##vote bozo. He's felt silly day 1 (which is NAI), but his mech analysis was surprisingly lacking.

That makes it 3 out of 3 for players I voted for today scum reading me as a result.

"as a result"?

[Balki Bartokomous]

What are people’s thoughts on an RDR wagon here?

How about Jamiet?

[lfischl]

What are people’s thoughts on an RDR wagon here?

How about Jamiet?

Meh, not too interested, think he’s probably town

Also if I respond slow I’m currently in the car and on my phone, should be here for EOD

[bozotheclown]

Sorry how absent I've been...work sucks. And holidays are fun...and between that mafia takes a back seat. I see that gets me wagoned. That's too easy for opportunistic scum, but I doubt they planned to push me.

I'll not vote an un-CC'd PR this close to KiLo (because of guns we must be close).
I'll back my early reads of chaqa, flav, damo as town.

##vote bozo. He's felt silly day 1 (which is NAI), but his mech analysis was surprisingly lacking.

That makes it 3 out of 3 for players I voted for today scum reading me as a result.

"as a result"?

That is the conclusion I have made until proven otherwise.

[bozotheclown]

What's the case on food?

Like this post, I’m fine voting food here. I will be driving a good part of tomorrow so I’m gonna throw my vote on ##vote food for now just so I don’t get modkilled, I should be around before EOD just not sure exactly when

Was your vote for foodcoats based on this one post? Were you confident Flavius is town?

I had him in my scumreads before but wanted to see the full case from someone I had as a townread before I voted, I was fairly confident flav was down after the BB/flav things so I felt confident in the wagon

What were your reasons for scum reading foodcoats?

[FlaviusAetius]

Sorry how absent I've been...work sucks. And holidays are fun...and between that mafia takes a back seat. I see that gets me wagoned. That's too easy for opportunistic scum, but I doubt they planned to push me.

I'll not vote an un-CC'd PR this close to KiLo (because of guns we must be close).
I'll back my early reads of chaqa, flav, damo as town.

##vote bozo. He's felt silly day 1 (which is NAI), but his mech analysis was surprisingly lacking.

That makes it 3 out of 3 for players I voted for today scum reading me as a result.

2 for 3 I never not once viewed you as a scum EXCEPT in the beginning when you did your bona nonsense, which is where you >started< to view me as scum
I dont think you are mafia I think you are >misguided< about the way I talk and >emphasize< things and you ahv eused that to create a case against me
I WANT to hash it out so I can >prove< to you that IM not mafia but the more and more you delay this list I requested the more and more I think you are >just< attacking me for the sake of attacking me

and THAT is what happened to me in m89

[FlaviusAetius]

watering the flowers will be catching up now and should be on until EOD

[BunnyGo]

Probably gone for a while again now. Hope to be back for EOD.

Of the current 2 vote wagons would vote: kotp > balki > sweet

[Jamiet99uk]

I did not vote for myself despite what the bot indicates.

You voted for Bonatogether and I assume you saw on the bot that this was seen as as self-vote, or I assume you saw people mention it.

I meant that I did not intend to question Vecna N1, he was the one who initiated the conversation by pointing out the problems with my case against him. I did take the opportunity to ask him questions as well, and I was not yet convinced he was town. I am now.

If you were able to maintain a scumread on Vecna after he died and flipped town that would really be the tunnel to end all tunnels, Bozo.

If DiplomacyandWarfare had been the DK I would have felt primarily responsible. I do not feel responsible for Hamilton's decision to shoot him.

Ok.

I can guarantee that sweetandcool did not vote for Bonatogether to gain town credit when I flip scum.

But he did know it would be registered a vote for you, I am certain of that.

[bozotheclown]

Sorry how absent I've been...work sucks. And holidays are fun...and between that mafia takes a back seat. I see that gets me wagoned. That's too easy for opportunistic scum, but I doubt they planned to push me.

I'll not vote an un-CC'd PR this close to KiLo (because of guns we must be close).
I'll back my early reads of chaqa, flav, damo as town.

##vote bozo. He's felt silly day 1 (which is NAI), but his mech analysis was surprisingly lacking.

That makes it 3 out of 3 for players I voted for today scum reading me as a result.

2 for 3 I never not once viewed you as a scum EXCEPT in the beginning when you did your bona nonsense, which is where you >started< to view me as scum
I dont think you are mafia I think you are >misguided< about the way I talk and >emphasize< things and you ahv eused that to create a case against me
I WANT to hash it out so I can >prove< to you that IM not mafia but the more and more you delay this list I requested the more and more I think you are >just< attacking me for the sake of attacking me

and THAT is what happened to me in m89

Did you mean to direct this to me? I did not vote for you or make a case that you are mafia.

[sweetandcool]

I did not vote for myself despite what the bot indicates.

You voted for Bonatogether and I assume you saw on the bot that this was seen as as self-vote, or I assume you saw people mention it.

I meant that I did not intend to question Vecna N1, he was the one who initiated the conversation by pointing out the problems with my case against him. I did take the opportunity to ask him questions as well, and I was not yet convinced he was town. I am now.

If you were able to maintain a scumread on Vecna after he died and flipped town that would really be the tunnel to end all tunnels, Bozo.

If DiplomacyandWarfare had been the DK I would have felt primarily responsible. I do not feel responsible for Hamilton's decision to shoot him.

Ok.

I can guarantee that sweetandcool did not vote for Bonatogether to gain town credit when I flip scum.

But he did know it would be registered a vote for you, I am certain of that.

Jamiet, we did our bot experiment remember? You think I was acting and knew two letters were required for the bot? Because I thought it was three

This is absurd.

[bozotheclown]

I did not vote for myself despite what the bot indicates.

You voted for Bonatogether and I assume you saw on the bot that this was seen as as self-vote, or I assume you saw people mention it.

I meant that I did not intend to question Vecna N1, he was the one who initiated the conversation by pointing out the problems with my case against him. I did take the opportunity to ask him questions as well, and I was not yet convinced he was town. I am now.

If you were able to maintain a scumread on Vecna after he died and flipped town that would really be the tunnel to end all tunnels, Bozo.

If DiplomacyandWarfare had been the DK I would have felt primarily responsible. I do not feel responsible for Hamilton's decision to shoot him.

Ok.

I can guarantee that sweetandcool did not vote for Bonatogether to gain town credit when I flip scum.

But he did know it would be registered a vote for you, I am certain of that.

I am not sure why making an invalid vote that the bot interpreted as a vote for myself would be scum indictive.

[FlaviusAetius]

That makes it 3 out of 3 for players I voted for today scum reading me as a result.

2 for 3 I never not once viewed you as a scum EXCEPT in the beginning when you did your bona nonsense, which is where you >started< to view me as scum
I dont think you are mafia I think you are >misguided< about the way I talk and >emphasize< things and you ahv eused that to create a case against me
I WANT to hash it out so I can >prove< to you that IM not mafia but the more and more you delay this list I requested the more and more I think you are >just< attacking me for the sake of attacking me

and THAT is what happened to me in m89

Did you mean to direct this to me? I did not vote for you or make a case that you are mafia.

I meant brainbomb not you

[worcej]

My understanding is that we have a very limited number of miskills left and that this could be disastrous if Sweet is town.

That’s his damn fault for playing selfish and open claiming as a PR or fake claiming as a VT.

Also, the scum probably don’t have free vig shots to just fire them all off, so we may have lowered miskill counts than normal but it won’t be instantaneous. I arrive at this conclusion based on the bullet mechanic discussed in the early stages of the game.

I don't really think you're one to give advice on PR play lol

And what do you mean by "probably don't"? My understanding is they have guns on D2, D3, D4, etc. like the lawmen do?

I challenge you to compare my blunders to my successes

[Jamiet99uk]

Sorry how absent I've been...work sucks. And holidays are fun...and between that mafia takes a back seat. I see that gets me wagoned. That's too easy for opportunistic scum, but I doubt they planned to push me.

I'll not vote an un-CC'd PR this close to KiLo (because of guns we must be close).
I'll back my early reads of chaqa, flav, damo as town.

##vote bozo. He's felt silly day 1 (which is NAI), but his mech analysis was surprisingly lacking.

That makes it 3 out of 3 for players I voted for today scum reading me as a result.

Bozo, I am not scumreading you as a result of you voting me today. You know that because you have seen me present multiple reasons for scumreading you, and you have replied to them.

That being the case it is very, very insincere of you to claim I am scumreading you, because you voted for me.

This earns you a ##Vote Bozotheclown

[bozotheclown]

Wholehearted agreement. Furthermore, I noted the way he joined the foodcoats wagon D1 was suspect. I also observe that Balki is 75+% to be mafia, and his defense of KOTP was a reach suggestive of mafia trying to cover for a teammate.

lfischl voted for foodcoats the same way, which I agree was suspicious. However, it does not seem likely they would both do it as mafia, and I am not sure which on looks more suspicious overall.

Definitely KOTP. Fishy boy is fine IMO. I can’t take him out the POE yet but he had a post I liked a lot.

Which post was that?