M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[brainbomb]

##vote bunny

[Balki Bartokomous]

This seems pretty desperate Balki. Is your case still just based on your feeling that I was faking my emotions on D1?

That's a pretty weak reason (and is wrong) and I expect better of you.

Yes, my reasoning is on page 108 and has not changed much:

Brain and Sweet, how do you feel about Jamiet? I still think that his shenanigans Day 1 looked more like performance art. I mean that with regard to his cursing crusade and his interactions with some of the claims. What are your thoughts on that slot now?

I see effort from you, which is good, but I am still struck by the early Day behavior that seemed insincere and overwrought.

Why do you say this seems "desperate"? Desperate in what way?

[sweetandcool]

##vote bunny

Yes!

##VOTE Bunny

[Jamiet99uk]

This seems pretty desperate Balki. Is your case still just based on your feeling that I was faking my emotions on D1?

That's a pretty weak reason (and is wrong) and I expect better of you.

Yes, my reasoning is on page 108 and has not changed much:

Brain and Sweet, how do you feel about Jamiet? I still think that his shenanigans Day 1 looked more like performance art. I mean that with regard to his cursing crusade and his interactions with some of the claims. What are your thoughts on that slot now?

I see effort from you, which is good, but I am still struck by the early Day behavior that seemed insincere and overwrought.

Why do you say this seems "desperate"? Desperate in what way?

Maybe I meant "crappy" ?

It seems pretty reaching if your top scumread is me, and this is the best reason you've got.

It's also quite frustrating as I can't respond to it. I was not insincere. But there's literally no way for me to prove that to you, is there? So you have chosen to vote me on the basis of an accusation (which I'm sure you know) that I cannot refute, irrespective of the truth. I assure you the truth is that there was no insincerity from me.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote bunny

Yes!

##VOTE Bunny

Okay I will continue to engage with Sweetandcool despite not really wanting to.

Sweet, you said you saw "obvious" crumbs from Bunny, which you felt were fake and made him seem scum to you.

Bunny has stated clearly that he did not make any crumbs.

You then admitted there were no such crumbs and, as usual, you were lying.

Bearing in mind that it cannot be anything to do with crumbs, what is your real reason for scumreading Bunnygo? Have you got one?

[lfischl]

1.
Foodcoat said sweet is going to be claiming a role because he thinks its optimal play and he KNEW about this head of time. Instead of EXPLAINING to sweet why it would be wrong he chose to do it here. Fine whatever.

2.
He says we should NOT be voting for sweet...why? Because he legit claimed a town role how can we vote for someone like that when its so easy to verify?
YET
He then goes onto sweet; WHY? Never explained

3.
During the whole Jamie thing do you know what food did? He votes DAMO. To "diffuse the tensions" like? Jamie gets mad early game when people go on him for being mad, it always happens and the wagon ALWAYS dies. Do you know what that whole thing DOES tell us though? INFORMATION. foodcoats is trying to diffuse the tensions for no reason...

4.
And you know what else about that damo vote I just went back and look at this; he INITIALLY said that we should be going after lurkers D1, then flipped when I pressed on him again to say it was just one big joke.

He is flipflopping nad I dont like it not one bit I want explanations and now.
SWEET you should NOT go for foodcoats unless its SOON. Go for someone ELSE you think is mafia or better yet wait until D2.
IF you are Desperado that is, if you think the game is up and you are going to die N1 then start shooting man dont wait until EOD.

Like this post, I’m fine voting food here. I will be driving a good part of tomorrow so I’m gonna throw my vote on ##vote food for now just so I don’t get modkilled, I should be around before EOD just not sure exactly when

lfisch, what did you like about this post? Were you agreeing with Flav's arguments or did you feel like it was Towny solving? Or both?

both, I thought the arguments were sounds and I townread flav at the time, in hindsight I wish I had flipped to rdr but at the time it seem edlike food was a good kill

[Chaqa]

@Balki: if it comes down to it I would vote you over Sweet, Bunny, or Jamie.

Would you consider voting Bozo?

[DemonRHK]

##Vote Bunny

I don't feel any hunting from bunny. Just a lot of one liners and hedging. The vote pattern on D1 throws me off too. Way too much waffling to the point of trying to drum up artificial pressure. Just seems disinterested?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Balki: if it comes down to it I would vote you over Sweet, Bunny, or Jamie.

Would you consider voting Bozo?

Hi Chaqa,

I do not like the idea of letting Sweetandcool escape justice here, but you are a strong townread and Bozo is my second top scumread so I will vote him if you do.

[sweetandcool]

##vote bunny

Yes!

##VOTE Bunny

Okay I will continue to engage with Sweetandcool despite not really wanting to.

Sweet, you said you saw "obvious" crumbs from Bunny, which you felt were fake and made him seem scum to you.

Bunny has stated clearly that he did not make any crumbs.

You then admitted there were no such crumbs and, as usual, you were lying.

Bearing in mind that it cannot be anything to do with crumbs, what is your real reason for scumreading Bunnygo? Have you got one?

1. Reaction to my claims. Bunnygo felt like they were not sincere and just using it as an excuse to vote me. It felt like parroting their Town behavior.

2. N1 Bunny's mask slips hard when he starts willfully sowing the seeds of getting me shot or MK. His "emotional" post about how hard it is to be teammates with me reads as pretty disingenuous.

Please keep in mind I would expect Town Bunny to also be annoyed with me. But his posts seem scum motivated here.

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Balki: if it comes down to it I would vote you over Sweet, Bunny, or Jamie.

Would you consider voting Bozo?

What’s your case?

He’s in my POE because he is hard for me to read, but I do not want to flip him today.

[Chaqa]

@Balki: if it comes down to it I would vote you over Sweet, Bunny, or Jamie.

Would you consider voting Bozo?

Hi Chaqa,

I do not like the idea of letting Sweetandcool escape justice here, but you are a strong townread and Bozo is my second top scumread so I will vote him if you do.

I think there is no world Sweet does this play as mafia in this setup.

[Chaqa]

@Balki: if it comes down to it I would vote you over Sweet, Bunny, or Jamie.

Would you consider voting Bozo?

What’s your case?

He’s in my POE because he is hard for me to read, but I do not want to flip him today.

I’ll write one up once the baby goes down for a nap

[Balki Bartokomous]

Maybe I meant "crappy" ?

It seems pretty reaching if your top scumread is me, and this is the best reason you've got.

It's also quite frustrating as I can't respond to it. I was not insincere. But there's literally no way for me to prove that to you, is there? So you have chosen to vote me on the basis of an accusation (which I'm sure you know) that I cannot refute, irrespective of the truth. I assure you the truth is that there was no insincerity from me.

1. My top scumread is sweet. You are #2!
2. Welcome to the game of Mafia. There is usually no way to prove innocence or guilt other than effort and sincerity. Just solve the game and then I am sure I will view you as Town. [shrug]

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Balki: if it comes down to it I would vote you over Sweet, Bunny, or Jamie.

Would you consider voting Bozo?

Hi Chaqa,

I do not like the idea of letting Sweetandcool escape justice here, but you are a strong townread and Bozo is my second top scumread so I will vote him if you do.

I think there is no world Sweet does this play as mafia in this setup.

And that’s the damn point!

The only reason this gambit makes sense is because of takes like this one (and Eden’s!), and I think these takes were predictable. I think that Sweet predicted them.

Faking a town slip doesn’t work any more. This is the new faking a town slip.

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe I meant "crappy" ?

It seems pretty reaching if your top scumread is me, and this is the best reason you've got.

It's also quite frustrating as I can't respond to it. I was not insincere. But there's literally no way for me to prove that to you, is there? So you have chosen to vote me on the basis of an accusation (which I'm sure you know) that I cannot refute, irrespective of the truth. I assure you the truth is that there was no insincerity from me.

1. My top scumread is sweet. You are #2!
2. Welcome to the game of Mafia. There is usually no way to prove innocence or guilt other than effort and sincerity. Just solve the game and then I am sure I will view you as Town. [shrug]

My top scumread is also Sweet. Why aren't you voting for him?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Balki: if it comes down to it I would vote you over Sweet, Bunny, or Jamie.

Would you consider voting Bozo?

What’s your case?

He’s in my POE because he is hard for me to read, but I do not want to flip him today.

I presented reasons for Bozo being scum. Did you read them?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Balki: if it comes down to it I would vote you over Sweet, Bunny, or Jamie.

Would you consider voting Bozo?

What’s your case?

He’s in my POE because he is hard for me to read, but I do not want to flip him today.

I presented reasons for Bozo being scum. Did you read them?

I honestly don’t remember. Can you point me to them?

[Chaqa]

Hi Chaqa,

I do not like the idea of letting Sweetandcool escape justice here, but you are a strong townread and Bozo is my second top scumread so I will vote him if you do.

I think there is no world Sweet does this play as mafia in this setup.

And that’s the damn point!

The only reason this gambit makes sense is because of takes like this one (and Eden’s!), and I think these takes were predictable. I think that Sweet predicted them.

Faking a town slip doesn’t work any more. This is the new faking a town slip.

One could also say your reaction is predictable and that is what allows the whole claim to work - the mafia won't kill him now because he's tainted

[worcej]

Taking care of sick kids sucks.

##vote Bunnygo