M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[Vecna]

also, lol at your electoral system.

[damo666]

also, lol at your electoral system.

people vote the way they do because of the electoral system, under a different system people would vote differently.

[Jamiet99uk]

I’m pretty sure it’s 48h because it’s Freedom Day

Yep, dislodging the Tory yoke.

You guys as a country just seem to have no fucking clue what u actually want anymore as a nation.

Maybe its time to shed your sovereignty and modestly request to become part of the SCOTTISH EMPIRE.

The Scottish Empire has been postponed; the Scottish National Party has lost 38 seats in this election.

[Vecna]

also, lol at your electoral system.

people vote the way they do because of the electoral system, under a different system people would vote differently.

im aware.

[brainbomb]

Heres all the points where you seem to miss a ton of nuance (the difference with your last few games where you just quitely observed the gamestate for a long time is very different this game).

Bunnygo being frustrated with Sweet: Very easy to come from any alignment. The sweet play is aggrevating. The thing about assuming it to come from town in that one post? Might actually have a minor point there, but even that is not that odd since im pretty sure a lot of people are towning sweet for his crap. He would also do it as scum obviously, because it would be a wonderfull cover, especially after last game he realized that if he is just ultra scummy all game he is more likely to live.

All the stuff surrounding Flavius: He is playing a near identical style to last game. How are you suddenly trying to claim that everyone that thinks he is town is "pocketing" him? How is that a fair assesment of whether someone is scummy? And regarding brainbombs case; how come youre not wondering about that logic? He is using the argument that because flavius was trying to get recruited, he would also still be playing in his scum meta long after the recruit occured. Brainbomb claims that anyone that does not buy that argument (that someone plays a full game in his scummeta because he wants to be recruited) must be scum defending him.

Youre literally playing like brainbomb where you try to connect all the dots before you've seen a single piece of confirmed information.

This is not how you have been playing the last few games. This is not how I prefer you to play if you are actually town, because its just gonna lead to rediculous collusions that dont help anything. Im worried

Except we only have 2 phases of content so far and youre implying you remember flavius tonal shift after n4 when the recruitment cutoff occurred. That seems to be a stretch defense for you to push. Flavius didnt even ask if it was okay for him to be scumsided and admitted to having been doing it til n3

[brainbomb]

There are other players who townread flavius who im not scumreading; foodcoats also held that stance. Bunny has pushed that stance and I think what bozo is saying about people pocketing also is a credible thought.

But it makes alot more sense for flav to be mafia here running obstruction. I dont actually believe he is like m89 at all. He seems much more like his m45 mafia meta.

[brainbomb]

While I do scumread Bunny I dont feel very strong about it and his stance on flavius much like balki are not primary drivers of my suspicions

[brainbomb]

Talking about even just skills alone

Town vecna doesnt produce a list of 5 players and claim all four scum are in it only to have his entire list or most of his list die and flip town.

Hes so much better than that at catching mafia.

BB, D&W, Food, HB, Bozo

My current guess is that group contains all 4 scum

This is not town vecna
Kill him

[brainbomb]

Wait
Vecna are you saying balki as BB or me as BB

[Jamiet99uk]

Talking about even just skills alone

Town vecna doesnt produce a list of 5 players and claim all four scum are in it only to have his entire list or most of his list die and flip town.

Hes so much better than that at catching mafia.

BB, D&W, Food, HB, Bozo

My current guess is that group contains all 4 scum

This is not town vecna
Kill him

Why have you highlighted yourself in green? You have not died.

[Vecna]

Heres all the points where you seem to miss a ton of nuance (the difference with your last few games where you just quitely observed the gamestate for a long time is very different this game).

Bunnygo being frustrated with Sweet: Very easy to come from any alignment. The sweet play is aggrevating. The thing about assuming it to come from town in that one post? Might actually have a minor point there, but even that is not that odd since im pretty sure a lot of people are towning sweet for his crap. He would also do it as scum obviously, because it would be a wonderfull cover, especially after last game he realized that if he is just ultra scummy all game he is more likely to live.

All the stuff surrounding Flavius: He is playing a near identical style to last game. How are you suddenly trying to claim that everyone that thinks he is town is "pocketing" him? How is that a fair assesment of whether someone is scummy? And regarding brainbombs case; how come youre not wondering about that logic? He is using the argument that because flavius was trying to get recruited, he would also still be playing in his scum meta long after the recruit occured. Brainbomb claims that anyone that does not buy that argument (that someone plays a full game in his scummeta because he wants to be recruited) must be scum defending him.

Youre literally playing like brainbomb where you try to connect all the dots before you've seen a single piece of confirmed information.

This is not how you have been playing the last few games. This is not how I prefer you to play if you are actually town, because its just gonna lead to rediculous collusions that dont help anything. Im worried

Except we only have 2 phases of content so far and youre implying you remember flavius tonal shift after n4 when the recruitment cutoff occurred. That seems to be a stretch defense for you to push. Flavius didnt even ask if it was okay for him to be scumsided and admitted to having been doing it til n3

The recruitment had already occured N2. Which youre well aware of since you GM'd that game? Everyone in the game was aware of it, so no, I dont believe he was trying to play exactly like his scumgame that entire game just for an attempt at being recruited. The fact youre trying to make this exact argument sounds really weird to me.

The bevaviour continued exactly the same during D3, resulting in Flavius being misskilled because of it.

If you feel he's trying to fake that behaviour this game (as RHK is implying) id find your argument a lot more believeable. As it currently stands, flav is one of the last people id want to kill.

[brainbomb]

Because If I dont illustrate that I am also town people will wonder in some idiotic fashion if im scum and im townslipping bozo. People are this stupid. Like levels beyond stupid and the fact you asked illustrates this nicely.

We waste so many hours trying to see some perceptual slip or some wrong phrasing.

People need to just stop smoking meth during the games and jumping at every little micro detail and just fucking take it all in

[brainbomb]

Heres all the points where you seem to miss a ton of nuance (the difference with your last few games where you just quitely observed the gamestate for a long time is very different this game).

Bunnygo being frustrated with Sweet: Very easy to come from any alignment. The sweet play is aggrevating. The thing about assuming it to come from town in that one post? Might actually have a minor point there, but even that is not that odd since im pretty sure a lot of people are towning sweet for his crap. He would also do it as scum obviously, because it would be a wonderfull cover, especially after last game he realized that if he is just ultra scummy all game he is more likely to live.

All the stuff surrounding Flavius: He is playing a near identical style to last game. How are you suddenly trying to claim that everyone that thinks he is town is "pocketing" him? How is that a fair assesment of whether someone is scummy? And regarding brainbombs case; how come youre not wondering about that logic? He is using the argument that because flavius was trying to get recruited, he would also still be playing in his scum meta long after the recruit occured. Brainbomb claims that anyone that does not buy that argument (that someone plays a full game in his scummeta because he wants to be recruited) must be scum defending him.

Youre literally playing like brainbomb where you try to connect all the dots before you've seen a single piece of confirmed information.

This is not how you have been playing the last few games. This is not how I prefer you to play if you are actually town, because its just gonna lead to rediculous collusions that dont help anything. Im worried

Except we only have 2 phases of content so far and youre implying you remember flavius tonal shift after n4 when the recruitment cutoff occurred. That seems to be a stretch defense for you to push. Flavius didnt even ask if it was okay for him to be scumsided and admitted to having been doing it til n3

The recruitment had already occured N2. Which youre well aware of since you GM'd that game? Everyone in the game was aware of it, so no, I dont believe he was trying to play exactly like his scumgame that entire game just for an attempt at being recruited. The fact youre trying to make this exact argument sounds really weird to me.

The bevaviour continued exactly the same during D3, resulting in Flavius being misskilled because of it.

If you feel he's trying to fake that behaviour this game (as RHK is implying) id find your argument a lot more believeable. As it currently stands, flav is one of the last people id want to kill.

He didnt know if someone had been recruited. He sent me the message n3

[brainbomb]

Ill even just drop that whole line of theory.

Lets just not even focus on m89 and stick to his weird defenses of chaqa his weird shading on me, and the fact he took credit for the case on foodcoats who is now a dead town

[sweetandcool]

Vecna could be scum but he ain't scum with me.

Is this a scumclaim?

[brainbomb]

Vecna isnt town.

[Vecna]

Talking about even just skills alone

Town vecna doesnt produce a list of 5 players and claim all four scum are in it only to have his entire list or most of his list die and flip town.

Hes so much better than that at catching mafia.

BB, D&W, Food, HB, Bozo

My current guess is that group contains all 4 scum

This is not town vecna
Kill him

You and Bozo are making terrible arguments fmpov.
D&W & Food were universally scumread for varying reasons.
HB was acting off, but it turned out to be because he was overly confident that he was never getting killed because he was the Desperado.

Im still fine with my senses picking up weird shit happening to all those slots. Its not like im always amazingly accurate on D1.

Besides, if I was scum, that list would much more likely contain 2-3 scum. Im sure you can do some more homework to confirm thats how I nearly always make said lists, but its irrelevant right now because im not scum.

[damo666]

Vecna could be scum but he ain't scum with me.

Is this a scumclaim?

Can't be by definition lol

[brainbomb]

The mark of your town game is not jolly riding with the town crew on bad takes. You picked a handful of town out of hat and got exposed as scum for having all townreads as your scum pool. You didnt think 3 of your 5 would flip all in one afternoon.

[brainbomb]

And also pretty important but was BB supposed to be balki or was that supposed to be me in your reads?