M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[President Eden]

I’m scanning Chaqa if I have a scan fwiw. I need to find out if Zaza Man poisoned his brain.

[sweetandcool]

I am absolutely gutted about how D1 turned out.

I don't know if Ham specifically targeted Dip because I scumread Dip, but it's very clear he went along with the charade I had provided and shit at the 30 minute mark. And if he had hit scum it absolutely would have been epic.

Sorry for failing you Ham. I really thought Dip was Mafia.

Which means Dip really did get discouraged from trying to solve like last game. Which really depresses me, because he really tried last game and got massively scumread for actually trying to solve.

Food flipping Town isn't very surprising and I would have tried to push against it if I was available. But I'm not going to whine about it like I normally would because I wasn't super convicted about that read.

I haven't had a chance to assess the situation, but off the top of my head the main read that changes after Dip flipping is that worcej is no longer Townread and is more null.

For this post alone, I’m shooting you if I get the chance.

You think swapping roles with the desperado was desirable? An objective worth doing? You’re gutted it failed?

Reading comprehension truly is a struggle. Or I can't write and my posts are somehow unintelligible if that's your take.

[sweetandcool]

I am absolutely gutted about how D1 turned out.

I don't know if Ham specifically targeted Dip because I scumread Dip, but it's very clear he went along with the charade I had provided and shit at the 30 minute mark. And if he had hit scum it absolutely would have been epic.

Sorry for failing you Ham. I really thought Dip was Mafia.

Which means Dip really did get discouraged from trying to solve like last game. Which really depresses me, because he really tried last game and got massively scumread for actually trying to solve.

Food flipping Town isn't very surprising and I would have tried to push against it if I was available. But I'm not going to whine about it like I normally would because I wasn't super convicted about that read.

I haven't had a chance to assess the situation, but off the top of my head the main read that changes after Dip flipping is that worcej is no longer Townread and is more null.

For this post alone, I’m shooting you if I get the chance.

You think swapping roles with the desperado was desirable? An objective worth doing? You’re gutted it failed?

This is such a scum Bunny post. You gotta restrain yourself when you think you've found an easy target.

[sweetandcool]

I am absolutely gutted about how D1 turned out.

I don't know if Ham specifically targeted Dip because I scumread Dip, but it's very clear he went along with the charade I had provided and shit at the 30 minute mark. And if he had hit scum it absolutely would have been epic.

Sorry for failing you Ham. I really thought Dip was Mafia.

Which means Dip really did get discouraged from trying to solve like last game. Which really depresses me, because he really tried last game and got massively scumread for actually trying to solve.

Food flipping Town isn't very surprising and I would have tried to push against it if I was available. But I'm not going to whine about it like I normally would because I wasn't super convicted about that read.

I haven't had a chance to assess the situation, but off the top of my head the main read that changes after Dip flipping is that worcej is no longer Townread and is more null.

I think you are probably delighted with how D1 turned out.

Your multiple fakeclaims absorbed a lot of the day, turned Damo into your loyal cheerleader for some reason, and contributed to three town deaths and a grand total of 0 Mafia being caught.

Assuming you are scum, great performance, bravo.

I did really good work. We just gotta solve the game now. It's not my fault y'all voted Food who was a pretty poor wagon.

[sweetandcool]

I am absolutely gutted about how D1 turned out.

I don't know if Ham specifically targeted Dip because I scumread Dip, but it's very clear he went along with the charade I had provided and shit at the 30 minute mark. And if he had hit scum it absolutely would have been epic.

Sorry for failing you Ham. I really thought Dip was Mafia.

Which means Dip really did get discouraged from trying to solve like last game. Which really depresses me, because he really tried last game and got massively scumread for actually trying to solve.

Food flipping Town isn't very surprising and I would have tried to push against it if I was available. But I'm not going to whine about it like I normally would because I wasn't super convicted about that read.

I haven't had a chance to assess the situation, but off the top of my head the main read that changes after Dip flipping is that worcej is no longer Townread and is more null.

For this post alone, I’m shooting you if I get the chance.

You think swapping roles with the desperado was desirable? An objective worth doing? You’re gutted it failed?

If I'm the cop, I'm not wasting a scan "clearing" you. If the cop is someone else, I hope they get the message you're a dead man walking and use their power somewhere else.

I'm not a dead man walking. And I 100% agree that scanning myself is a waste.

Probably still scanning brainbomb, but maybe someone else. Not wasting a scan on you.

[Jamiet99uk]

I did really good work. We just gotta solve the game now. It's not my fault y'all voted Food who was a pretty poor wagon.

I did not vote for Foodcoats.

[sweetandcool]

I did really good work. We just gotta solve the game now. It's not my fault y'all voted Food who was a pretty poor wagon.

I did not vote for Foodcoats.

Congratulations, here's your reward:

[Jamiet99uk]

I did really good work. We just gotta solve the game now. It's not my fault y'all voted Food who was a pretty poor wagon.

I did not vote for Foodcoats.

Congratulations, here's your reward:

Thank you.

I will reward you tomorrow with my vote.

[Balki Bartokomous]

TSA:

If you learn you have a loaded gun tomorrow, do not claim. We need to save all Lawmen shots for #thereckoning, which will take place in 2-3 days.

[Balki Bartokomous]

TSA: except if you are Sweet. Sweet should hard claim Lawman right now.

[BunnyGo]

Oh are we doing hyposcans?

Ok, I'm going to scan Damo.

I told the GM to scan worcej

The GM doesn't have a scan

Pedant. I told the GM I want to scan worcej and he should execute that order for me

[BunnyGo]

I am absolutely gutted about how D1 turned out.

I don't know if Ham specifically targeted Dip because I scumread Dip, but it's very clear he went along with the charade I had provided and shit at the 30 minute mark. And if he had hit scum it absolutely would have been epic.

Sorry for failing you Ham. I really thought Dip was Mafia.

Which means Dip really did get discouraged from trying to solve like last game. Which really depresses me, because he really tried last game and got massively scumread for actually trying to solve.

Food flipping Town isn't very surprising and I would have tried to push against it if I was available. But I'm not going to whine about it like I normally would because I wasn't super convicted about that read.

I haven't had a chance to assess the situation, but off the top of my head the main read that changes after Dip flipping is that worcej is no longer Townread and is more null.

For this post alone, I’m shooting you if I get the chance.

You think swapping roles with the desperado was desirable? An objective worth doing? You’re gutted it failed?

This is such a scum Bunny post. You gotta restrain yourself when you think you've found an easy target.

You make it so fickint hard to be your teammate. You go OUT OF YOUR WAY to antagonize EVERY TOWN player. As if you can only think of yourself. I’m shooting you if I get a gun.

[sweetandcool]

TSA: except if you are Sweet. Sweet should hard claim Lawman right now.

I'm the Sheriff so sadly it's not possible.

[Jamiet99uk]

TSA:

If you learn you have a loaded gun tomorrow, do not claim. We need to save all Lawmen shots for #thereckoning, which will take place in 2-3 days.

What's this here plan now?

[Balki Bartokomous]

TSA:

If you learn you have a loaded gun tomorrow, do not claim. We need to save all Lawmen shots for #thereckoning, which will take place in 2-3 days.

What's this here plan now?

All you really need to know now is don’t claim if you find out you are a lawman. We want you to hold your shot for now, and obviously we don’t want you killed before you can make that shot.

[Jamiet99uk]

TSA:

If you learn you have a loaded gun tomorrow, do not claim. We need to save all Lawmen shots for #thereckoning, which will take place in 2-3 days.

What's this here plan now?

All you really need to know now is don’t claim if you find out you are a lawman. We want you to hold your shot for now, and obviously we don’t want you killed before you can make that shot.

Balki and his mysterious committee of advisors have spoken.

[BunnyGo]

TSA:

If you learn you have a loaded gun tomorrow, do not claim. We need to save all Lawmen shots for #thereckoning, which will take place in 2-3 days.

What's this here plan now?

All you really need to know now is don’t claim if you find out you are a lawman. We want you to hold your shot for now, and obviously we don’t want you killed before you can make that shot.

Not claiming seems clear enough. I don’t understand holding the shot.

[damo666]

From a brief vca the only thing I can guess is Bunny is town due to all te flippy floppy and not being afraid of late switching to deadtownfood.

[damo666]

What's this here plan now?

All you really need to know now is don’t claim if you find out you are a lawman. We want you to hold your shot for now, and obviously we don’t want you killed before you can make that shot.

Not claiming seems clear enough. I don’t understand holding the shot.

Tend to agree. Waiting for info risks multi shots on same target.

[sweetandcool]

For this post alone, I’m shooting you if I get the chance.

You think swapping roles with the desperado was desirable? An objective worth doing? You’re gutted it failed?

This is such a scum Bunny post. You gotta restrain yourself when you think you've found an easy target.

You make it so fickint hard to be your teammate. You go OUT OF YOUR WAY to antagonize EVERY TOWN player. As if you can only think of yourself. I’m shooting you if I get a gun.

Fine, I'll explain.

Food was right, I planned to fake claim no matter what this game. But I also didn't want to "harm Town", so I was very responsible by opening with a very obvious fake claim. Its only utility was that Mafia wouldn't believe me, which is beneficial in the event I rolled Sheriff. And since nobody would CC me or DK me, we would have a Sheriff till the end of the game. Or Mafia would believe me enough to RB me, which is also beneficial in the (probability wise) more likely event I rolled VT.

What I didn't anticipate, was the incredibly unhinged response I received. Three players (Bozo, Food, Eden) immediately assumed it was a joke (very good). A few players believed me (very strange and unexpected, I thought maybe one player would at most), and the rest denounced me as a filthy liar, playing anti-town and narcissistic and not working with my team, which is an extreme and unhinged response.

Given that several of these reactions have to be fake, I think overall it produced content that is helpful to Town, so I don't really regret it at all.

But, since I received such a hysterical response, I felt backed into a corner. How could Town threaten to DK an unCC PR claim? Or feel like the claim was worth even treating as possible?

So I decided to make a believable fake claim, Desperado. In hindsight, that was a poor move because Town's inability to think rationally meant the Desperado was likely to shoot me. Luckily, cool-hand Ham rolled Desperado and behaved reasonably.

My plan at that point was to purposefully be AFK at EoD, which would explain why I didn't shoot. I didn't really think Desperado would go along with my charade, but I was happy to provide that opportunity if they wanted to take it. In the end, and happily, I organically was AFK, relieving me of the burden of finding a way to explain it without lying.

I had further moves planned, but Ham shooting and dieing obviously makes those plans moot.

Ultimately, this has exposed precisely the Town behavior I decry. Heuristics are good, but when players rely on them as an excuse to turn off their brain and make bad unthinking decisions then heuristics become bad. It is true, Fake claiming is more often bad, and should be treated with care. But a player fake claiming, whether well or poorly, is not automatically scum. This is similar to the train of thought some players get tempted into where they see play they don't like and consequently scumread others. The reality is Town makes bad moves too, or just moves you don't agree with at the very least.

I think Town's treatment of me has been shameful, and I'm sorry that Food hates playing with me and that you Bunny and others feel like I'm not a Town player.

I thought my play helped Town solve and provided cover for our real PRs and provides amazing cover for me if I am a PR. Of course, I'm relying on Town playing as a Team, which I'm guessing D2 will demonstrate will not be the case.

In conclusion, I am Sheriff, hard claim.