M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[damo666]

yes foodcoats!

organize a d1 chaqa speedwagon.

He said he didnt townread me, so ill support you.

itll be glorious

*hits meth pipe*
*gets on horse*
*the horse is hard*

##VOTE Chaqa

##vote food

[BunnyGo]

What's scummy about fishy?

What's towny about fishy?

his above average participation

I haven't noticed a single post

[dargorygel]

##GM THINGS

Ringo Conclusion
Suicide?
Teamster James Yoast was hauling wood when he found Ringo's body on July 14 seated in "a bunch of five large black jack oaks growing up in a semicircle from one root, and in the center of them was a large flat rock which made a comfortable seat." He was "not more than 700 feet from Smith’s house" in West Turkey Creek Valley, near Chiricahua Peak in Arizona Territory. His body had already turned black from the desert heat.

His feet were wrapped in strips of cloth torn from his undershirt. Ringo had lost his horse with his boots tied to the saddle. The coroner's report noted that "He had evidently traveled but a short distance in this foot gear." There was a bullet hole in his right temple and an exit wound at the back of his head. The fatal wound was upward at a 45-degree angle between the right eye and ear. His revolver was still in his right hand.

According to the coroner's report, Ringo's Colt Single Action Army .45 revolver held five cartridges; the hammer rested on the empty chamber. A knife cut was found at the base of his scalp, as if "someone had cut it with a knife." His horse was found eleven days later about 2 miles (3.2 km) away with Ringo's boots still tied to the saddle. A coroner's inquest officially ruled his death a suicide.

Ringo's body is buried near the base of the tree where it was discovered. The grave is located on private land. A gate on a nearby road permits visitors to view the site. Despite the coroner's ruling and contemporaneous newspaper reports that Ringo had "frequently threatened to commit suicide, and that the event was expected at any time",alternative theories of doubtful plausibility about Ringo's death have been proposed over the years.

Some assert that the lack of powder burns on his head suggest he was shot from a distance. The coroner’s jury report does not mention the presence or absence of powder burns. Furthermore, Ringo's body was already turning black due to decomposition.

Robert Boller, a member of the coroner's jury, wrote in 1934, "I showed [James Yoast] where the bullet had entered the tree on the left side. Blood and brains [were] oozing from the wound and matted his hair. There was an empty shell in the six-shooter and the hammer was on that. I called it a suicide fifty-two years ago, I am still calling it suicide. I guess I’m the last of the coroner’s jury."

Wyatt Earp claims
According to the book I Married Wyatt Earp, which author and collector Glen Boyer claimed to have assembled from manuscripts written by Earp's third wife, Josephine Marcus Earp, Earp and Doc Holliday returned to Arizona with some friends in early July and found Ringo camped in West Turkey Creek Valley. As Ringo attempted to flee up the canyon, Earp shot him with a rifle. Boyer refused to produce his source manuscripts, and reporters wrote that his explanations were conflicting and not credible. New York Times contributor Allen Barra wrote that I Married Wyatt Earp "... is now recognized by Earp researchers as a hoax."

Tombstone historian Ben T. Traywick thought the story about Earp's involvement was credible, reasoning that only Earp had sufficient motive, he was probably in the area at the time, and near the end of his life he told one historian "in circumstantial detail how he killed John Ringo". Earp was interviewed in 1888 by an agent of California historian Hubert H. Bancroft, and in 1932, Frank Lockwood, who authored Pioneer Days in Arizona, wrote that Earp told both of them that he killed Ringo as he left Arizona in March 1882 – almost four months before Ringo died. He included other details that do not match what is known about Ringo's death. Earp repeated his story to at least three other people. In an interview with a reporter in Denver in 1896, Earp denied that he had killed Ringo; but later, privately, claimed once again that he had.

Doc Holliday story
The Holliday theory is similar to the Earp theory, except that Holliday is alleged to have killed Ringo. A variant, popularized in the movie Tombstone, asserts that Holliday stepped in for Earp in response to a gunfight challenge from Ringo and shot him. Records of the Pueblo County, Colorado District Court indicate that Holliday and his attorney appeared in court on July 11, 14, and 18, 1882 to answer charges of "larceny". However, a writ of capias was issued for him on the 11th, suggesting that he did not in fact appear in court on that date. Ringo's body was found on the 14th. Six days before Ringo's death, the Pueblo Daily Chieftain reported that Holliday was in Salida, Colorado, about 670 miles (1,080 km) from Turkey Creek, Arizona; and then in Leadville, about 700 miles (1,100 km) distant, on July 18. There was still an arrest warrant outstanding on Holliday in Arizona for his part in Frank Stilwell's murder, making it unlikely that he would have entered Arizona at that time. So probably not historical… sorry Tombstone.

Michael O'Rourke theory
Some accounts attribute Ringo's death to Michael O'Rourke, an itinerant gambler who was arrested in Tucson in January 1881 on suspicion of murdering a mining engineer named Henry Schneider. Wyatt Earp is said to have protected him from being lynched by a mob organized and led by Ringo. O'Rourke escaped from jail in April 1881 and never stood trial on the murder charges.
The last documented sighting of O'Rourke was in the Dragoon Mountains near Tombstone during May 1881, "well-mounted and equipped", and presumably on his way out of the territory. From then on he is referred to only in unsubstantiated rumors and legends; according to one, a combination of the debt he owed Earp and the grudge he held against Ringo prompted him to return to Arizona in 1882, track Ringo down, and kill him. While some sources consider the story plausible, others point out that O'Rourke, like Holliday, would have been reluctant to re-enter Arizona with a murder warrant hanging over his head, particularly to commit another murder.

Frank Leslie claim
And finally, while in the Yuma Territorial Prison for killing his wife, Buckskin Frank Leslie reputedly confessed to a guard that he had killed Ringo. Few believed his story, and some thought he was simply claiming credit for it to curry favor with Earp's inner circle, or for whatever notoriety it might bring him.

VOTIN’ COUNTIN’

foodcoats (6) Flav, lf, Vecna, Chaqa, kotp, damo
DiplomacyandWarfare (4) bozo, Bunny, sweet, worcej
FlaviusAetius (2) Demon, brain
worcej (2) Jamie, Dip
kingofthepirates (2) Ham, Eden
rdrivera2005 (1) Balki
chaqa (1) food
Damo666 (1) rdr

Foodcoats has the most tallymarks

Less than an hour left

NOTE… THIS is the last historically annotated VC of the day… bona or I will still occasionally post vote counts as the last hour progresses… but no guarantees.

[BunnyGo]

yes foodcoats!

organize a d1 chaqa speedwagon.

He said he didnt townread me, so ill support you.

itll be glorious

*hits meth pipe*
*gets on horse*
*the horse is hard*

##VOTE Chaqa

##vote food

damo's sequence here gets him in my towncore

[damo666]

*hits meth pipe*
*gets on horse*
*the horse is hard*

##VOTE Chaqa

##vote food

damo's sequence here gets him in my towncore

I wasn't there already?

[brainbomb]

Notice how flavius doesnt respond to my refutations or responses here?

[lfischl]

Notice how flavius doesnt respond to my refutations or responses here?

Brain I think you are tunneling him a little too hard here

[brainbomb]

@worcej heres your chance

You can vote a high poster in flavius who is probably spamming scum and get rid of someone talking too much.

Win win

Hop on

[brainbomb]

Notice how flavius doesnt respond to my refutations or responses here?

Brain I think you are tunneling him a little too hard here

Its a solid day one elimination. I have been scumreading him for a while. I will keep arguing for it and highlighting reasons why so its an option

[President Eden]

Add in DemonRHK and remove Lfischl and I agree.

I don’t mind adding RHK, but what makes you want to take fishy out the pool? You know he’ll die if he’s outside the water too long

He's town

[Balki Bartokomous]

*hits meth pipe*
*gets on horse*
*the horse is hard*

##VOTE Chaqa

##vote food

damo's sequence here gets him in my towncore

I like Damo too. He is way more engaged in this game than I have seen him Day 1.

I like you Damo.

[BunnyGo]

##vote food

damo's sequence here gets him in my towncore

I wasn't there already?

no, town lean previously

[foodcoats]

Notice how flavius doesnt respond to my refutations or responses here?

Brain I think you are tunneling him a little too hard here

Its a solid day one elimination. I have been scumreading him for a while. I will keep arguing for it and highlighting reasons why so its an option

For the sake of discussion, I think Flavius is playing very similarly to last game. There’s nothing he’s done that’s made me jump.

[BunnyGo]

Notice how flavius doesnt respond to my refutations or responses here?

Brain I think you are tunneling him a little too hard here

fish's first post of the game (that I noticed)

[FlaviusAetius]

I agree with you very strongly on this. Brain has way too many townreads.

TRUEEEEE. brainbomb >specifcally< said that you should have a SMALL townread list so why does he go against his own advice??

Now if you want a small towncore of only people you trust and youd like to keep it simple: not reach; not try to dig deep: that is also okay. Cast a small net of trustees but if you do truly townread me then my logic must be doing something for you. So go see what im talking about if you want too.

So here you have taken the logical leap that I am now telling all players that having a small towncore is the best way to play?

It looks like im telling a player who cast a small net of 4 town that this is okay.

Wanna explain this complete mischaracterization?

Ok clearly I made a mistake im sorry I guess I was reading too fast and misinterpretted what you said, I think the >most< relevant thing here is whether or not you think having a LARGE or SMALL is better I say smaller is better

[lfischl]

Notice how flavius doesnt respond to my refutations or responses here?

Brain I think you are tunneling him a little too hard here

fish's first post of the game (that I noticed)

[brainbomb]

Brain I think you are tunneling him a little too hard here

Its a solid day one elimination. I have been scumreading him for a while. I will keep arguing for it and highlighting reasons why so its an option

For the sake of discussion, I think Flavius is playing very similarly to last game. There’s nothing he’s done that’s made me jump.

Once again
Going to reiterate he told me he wanted permission last game to play as scummy as possible to try to get recruited

[brainbomb]

So if he is just like last game

Youre saying hes scumsiding so hard that mafia considers him an extra team member

[President Eden]

Guys…

Being scummy literally isn’t real

We are all stardust

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Dip

I still think Eden and Damo are best choices but Dip isn't a bad one.