M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[brainbomb]

Also do not interject questions on top of ongoing interrogations to intercede for others. That is scummy

[Vecna]

##vote flavius

He can be tedious but he ain't scum

Really? I very much think he is.

you think he's any different from last game?

[brainbomb]

I would laugh so hard if the desperado just shot you right now.

That would be hilarious. Too bad it is impossible. I swear that reads list will be coming. About 75% done, sadly am busy again. Think it will be done with about two hours to spare.

IF you are Desperado do not shoot a top wagon at EOD please, frankly Im not even sure I would like you to even use it during EOD at all...we are going to be SCRAMBLING like cmon man

If youd actually been reading the game instead of barking at everything youd have seen that he already said he wasnt doing this.

Also he is role playing. We already know this.

[DemonRHK]

He can be tedious but he ain't scum

Really? I very much think he is.

you think he's any different from last game?

THAT is the rub. He's really not. Yes, he was town last game. But I have to go with my gut, and most everything else I got atm is holding for the sweet stuff

[brainbomb]

Also vecna, ask me the same question if you want my answer.

[rdrivera2005]

I want to vote for Dip but half of his wagon is scummy as hell. Hard bussing maybe?

Food is kind a coin flip to me, but I believe his wagon is mostly townies.

[kingofthepirates]

I'm confused now. food wagon has fizzled (slightly?), dip wagon is up. would someone please explain this? I see dip calling sweet scummier than food, which I think is total bull. I don't see anything else though. Then the wagon seemingly spontaneously appears, so can someone please explain to me what y'all are seeing???

Food I see more reasons laid out overall, notably flavius' pg 44 post. Food has also gone MIA (20+ hrs since last seen), and I don't like that. Maybe something out of game. Idk. but I don't like the extended absence, especially with a relatively big post of reasons to vote.

I have noticed that it seems there's thoughts of food/dip pairing (if one flips mafia, shoot the other), so perhaps there's no real difference in voting for either. I hope for clarification of some kind. Thank you.

[brainbomb]

What flavius is doing is just like will scum game.

He takes outdated posts and pretends he doesnt know there are new details to talk about.

He finds random posts and then filters them through a few times to paint a new narrative of peoples statements.

Hes out here paperboying the game with fluff, challenging people on dead knowledge, and using big capitalized words to try to look stern, determined and forceful.

The thing I find interesting is Jamie doesnt seem to call out the never ending gaffes spewing out of this. So maybe Jamie is also scum with him. Scumteam all high posting since they know lurkers were the focus this game

[Vecna]

Also vecna, ask me the same question if you want my answer.

you think he's any different from last game?

[damo666]

I'm confused now. food wagon has fizzled (slightly?), dip wagon is up. would someone please explain this? I see dip calling sweet scummier than food, which I think is total bull. I don't see anything else though. Then the wagon seemingly spontaneously appears, so can someone please explain to me what y'all are seeing???

Food I see more reasons laid out overall, notably flavius' pg 44 post. Food has also gone MIA (20+ hrs since last seen), and I don't like that. Maybe something out of game. Idk. but I don't like the extended absence, especially with a relatively big post of reasons to vote.

I have noticed that it seems there's thoughts of food/dip pairing (if one flips mafia, shoot the other), so perhaps there's no real difference in voting for either. I hope for clarification of some kind. Thank you.

I think food becoming a runaway wagon unnerved people

[President Eden]

Also vecna, ask me the same question if you want my answer.

you think he’s any different from last game?

[brainbomb]

Also vecna, ask me the same question if you want my answer.

you think he's any different from last game?

Yes.
i researched his games back to m46 when he was scum first time. Hes in his scumgame meta. Playing as dumb as possible

[Vecna]

What flavius is doing is just like will scum game.

He takes outdated posts and pretends he doesnt know there are new details to talk about.

He finds random posts and then filters them through a few times to paint a new narrative of peoples statements.

Hes out here paperboying the game with fluff, challenging people on dead knowledge, and using big capitalized words to try to look stern, determined and forceful.

The thing I find interesting is Jamie doesnt seem to call out the never ending gaffes spewing out of this. So maybe Jamie is also scum with him. Scumteam all high posting since they know lurkers were the focus this game

The two players are nothing alike in playstyle.

I agree he is doing most of these things (id phrase/interpret em differently), but that is his towngame as well. Im not claiming he's locktown or w/e but ive seen nothing that he wasnt doing last game as well.

[brainbomb]

Flavius is high volume and petulant as mafia. He does this.

[President Eden]

I'm confused now. food wagon has fizzled (slightly?), dip wagon is up. would someone please explain this? I see dip calling sweet scummier than food, which I think is total bull. I don't see anything else though. Then the wagon seemingly spontaneously appears, so can someone please explain to me what y'all are seeing???

Food I see more reasons laid out overall, notably flavius' pg 44 post. Food has also gone MIA (20+ hrs since last seen), and I don't like that. Maybe something out of game. Idk. but I don't like the extended absence, especially with a relatively big post of reasons to vote.

I have noticed that it seems there's thoughts of food/dip pairing (if one flips mafia, shoot the other), so perhaps there's no real difference in voting for either. I hope for clarification of some kind. Thank you.

##VOTE kingofthepirates

[brainbomb]

TRUEEEEE. brainbomb >specifcally< said that you should have a SMALL townread list so why does he go against his own advice??

Now if you want a small towncore of only people you trust and youd like to keep it simple: not reach; not try to dig deep: that is also okay. Cast a small net of trustees but if you do truly townread me then my logic must be doing something for you. So go see what im talking about if you want too.

Example

[Jamiet99uk]

I've gone to the pub because I hoped the pub quiz would be on.

The pub quiz isn't on but I've just been bought a drink by a group of random people who appear to be celebrating the fact that one of them just got out of prison.

I may or may not still be here for EoD.

[FlaviusAetius]

I don't have a particular feeling one way or another if food dies today. I just did a quick reread and I really didn't read anything that jumped out to me to suggest food sucks. Maybe a little too much airtime given to sweet's myriad of claims; scum motivation for that would be to keep that cesspool swirling in the public consciousness for as long as possible so I don't have to talk about anything else and slip. Even then, over 53 posts Food explicitly commits time Sweet's play in 6 posts. Is that driving the airtime?

I think I'd like a better reason that Food needs to die.

Its not just food's interactions with sweet that are problematic(they are), its ALSO food was adamant t hat we should go after lurkers D1, then when I tell him thats a bad idea he said it was just a >joke< not that he disagreed with my sentiment, not that he agreed to my sentiment but that he never actually BELIEVED in what he was saying in the >first place< like whats up with that???

[sweetandcool]

Diplomacy: Gives the impression of reading the thread. Weighs in on the drama by deciding Jamiet is right, the pushback against Jamiet for voting sweetandcool indicates that worcej and sweetandcool are scum. His reads don't evolve after that except randomly voting brainbomb briefly. Is consistently flashing worcej right now.

Diplomacy is scum. He seems to have learned the wrong lesson from last game and decided lurking is his best play.

Dip, on the extremely off chance you are Town, please don't be scared off by last game. You were doing the right thing by attempting to solve, you were just wrongly persecuted. It takes practice to solve better, and you won't get practice if all you do is lurk.

But yeah: DIPLOMACY IS SCUM
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Rdr: On one hand, I would expect him to scumread me, and so his defense of me is pretty suspicious. On the other hand, I like all of his takes so far. He hasn't really made a vote that feels real, but that's not all that unreasonable given it is D1.

Rdr is scumlean, maybe just actually scum.
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lfisch: Scum I guess? Started being buddy buddy with me since I unveiled myself as Desperado. Before that, no real content. Other than buddying, latched onto Flav's meh case on Food and sheeped it.
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Worcej: Town. His scumread of Jamiet felt authentic. Maybe he calls out his teammate Dip, but less likely.

Worcej is probably Town.
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RHK: Null. I want to town him for vibes reasons.
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Bozo IS TOWN and it would be insane to think otherwise.
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I really want to scumread Balki. His reaction to my Sheriff claim as hurting Town was obviously false. Balki is way too intelligent to erroneously make that statement, but I could very well see Town Balki saying that as a way to push his own meta of what he thinks is correct Townplay. That is authentically Balki.

Otherwise, he really hasn't left an impression.

Balki is Null.
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Food has been confusing to me, because he claims that I am obviously fake claiming, and it's NAI because I talked about how fake claims were not bad before this game.

But then he decides I am being anti-town and .just be voted. Which reads more of a policy vote rather than a sincere vote.

Still, on the whole he seems more Town. The natural interpretation to his response to my highly believable Desperado claim is that he believes it, rather than he was backing off to avoid being shot.

I think people pushing that narrative are actually pretty suspicious for it.

Food is Townlean. (If he happens to be Mafia then the people pushing that narrative look pretty good)
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I think damo is Town based on vibes, but I don't feel convicted necessarily.

Damo is Townlean.
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Running out of time, so in summary Chaqa is kind of Null maybe Townish. I highly appreciate their energy.

Chaqa is Townish.
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Urgh, I'm going to post now. Still have the top four posters to look at. But of them I am already reasonably sure Jamiet is Town.

[sweetandcool]

Town


Probtown

Bozo
Brain
Worcej

@Damo: Specifically what makes worcej prob town?

his early reaction with Jamie, it seemed unlikely from a scum perspective

Okay, looks like damo is Town, awesome.