M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[FlaviusAetius]

Despite Brainbomb's outhouse crisis, I am actually somewhat suspicious of him quite aggressively demanding to know why people weren't voting for Chaqa.... while not casting a vote for Chaqa himself, even when I encouraged him to do so.

Know what's weird? Why is brainbomb NOT voting ANYONE? He's suspected so many people and claimed to SOLVE the entire game but not committing to anything? Just doesnt make sense not one bit

[Jamiet99uk]

Yes. I actually cannot imagine how you say these words for them not to rhyme. Can you provide a phonetic example?

"Cross" rhymes with "Boss" or "Ross" or "Floss".
"Sauce" rhymes with "Horse" and "Morse", and "Course".

How the hell does Sauce rhyme with those other words.

There's no R in it.

It's the pronunciation of the "au" in "sauce".

If it helps, imagine whose words are "Sauce", "Hauce", "Cauce".

[Jamiet99uk]

Here you go Chaqa, this is about right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjZKg80N1H4

[Jamiet99uk]

And this is EXACTLY the way I say "cross", and you can hear it is very different to "sauce":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D51oQGwuYI

[brainbomb]

Believe it or not it is possible to scumread people without smattering ones vote all over the thread. When I am ready to vote I will.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't approve of what sweet has done but I think voting him now is definitely wrong so I am going to policy vote Sweet voters until they move

##vote Bunny

##vote Damo

This makes no sense and it looks like you just want to park a vote again.

[BunnyGo]

There is no way we want Desperado to shoot anyone today, and we simply cannot believe anything Sweet says. He has no credibility.

Why don't we want the Desperado to shoot?

I've asked Bunny this and now I'm asking you: If Sweet is lying now, why wouldn't the real Desperado shoot him??

I answered

[BunnyGo]

Man I put alot of research behind my vecna posts and nobody even replies. Cant I at least get a “yea youre town bb but I dont subscribe to meta arguments”, or something along those lines

I read and appreciate the effort and you

[Jamiet99uk]

There is no way we want Desperado to shoot anyone today, and we simply cannot believe anything Sweet says. He has no credibility.

Why don't we want the Desperado to shoot?

I've asked Bunny this and now I'm asking you: If Sweet is lying now, why wouldn't the real Desperado shoot him??

I answered

You did.

Both you and Balki appear to be arguing that Sweet is really, really stupid town.

[BunnyGo]

I think that it would be wise to be less reliant on this "too scummy to be scum" defense.

Sweet's did not claim PR, he claimed "I am going to play in a way that is bad for Town."

That works as a scum play only because the prevailing view around here is: "too scummy to be scum." And it is a very easy ploy. It has also allowed him to avoid talking about alignments. He just keeps telling everyone how hard his claim is.

I think it's interesting that you are insisting something absolutely harmless is somehow "bad for Town". I respect the intellect of the players, so consequently I can only assume my play is not bad for Town.

"absolutely harmless" you made the WHOLE day about you. That ISNT harmless

Flav gets my towncore nod

[BunnyGo]

Why don't we want the Desperado to shoot?

I've asked Bunny this and now I'm asking you: If Sweet is lying now, why wouldn't the real Desperado shoot him??

I answered

You did.

Both you and Balki appear to be arguing that Sweet is really, really stupid town.

Not stupid. He’s a smart person. But he’s a shitty team player. And it’s really pushing my buttons.

And he’s specifically doing it to try and prove he’s smart, because he thinks Nash equilibrium are a winning play.

[Chaqa]

As much as id love to kill the entire scumteam day 1 and make webdip history for the first ever town sweep - it aint realistic to imagine.

I think the Desperado shooting Foodcoats would complete 25% of that.

[FlaviusAetius]

Okay well there were no survivors. Just an inflatable man.

So this seems to be tilting sideways quite fast. Never was I desperate or striving for a chaqa wagon. never was I hot in the biscuit to claim chaqa was scum. a dialogue about lurkers and which lurkers we find dangerous was a goal. I also wanted to challenge the excuses being levied for why some lurkers were problematic and we got that dialogue.

My vote is my sword and I have a plan for how I use it. But votes can be used against you later so im just taking my time with it. Voting a lurker only to move elsewhere is meaningless and rarely prompts a person to just post. Talking about a person accomplishes the same thing.

Voting a lurker and staying on that lurker when people are arguing on that lurkers behalf is anti town and serves no purpose either.

Telling me im allowed to vote chaqa is quite ignorant. I would much prefer a dialogue about chaqas scum meta as a lurker, or chaqas typical return to thread habits. Why hes deserving of a day 2 life; sans having storm damage and a new baby at home.

I was hoping Jamie felt chaqa plays better day 2. Or eden had some ideas on how chaqa tends to improve over time as town and I didnt see anyone implying such notions.

I dont understand how we can start a conversation on lurkers without even KNOWING whose a lurker yet or not? So far we just have chaqa confirmed lurker because chaqa isnt going to be on much D1 as explained, who else? WHO KNOWS...thats why we dont go after lurkers D1 its just sillly

[BunnyGo]

Man I put alot of research behind my vecna posts and nobody even replies. Cant I at least get a “yea youre town bb but I dont subscribe to meta arguments”, or something along those lines

I’m town, so you’re wrong, but why would I bother saying it?

Why are you defending yourself on a post about Vecna?

[Chaqa]

Well the Desperado could legit go on a spree and win the game on day 1. It isnt realistic to imagine.

Oh WOW I had not noticed that.

That is potentially more powerful than the standard Desperado that I have used before. I'm sure it doesn't usually have the potential for unlimited shots.

This is how the Desperado worked in the game Darg played it, so I assume it was the inspiration.

[BunnyGo]

As much as id love to kill the entire scumteam day 1 and make webdip history for the first ever town sweep - it aint realistic to imagine.

I think the Desperado shooting Foodcoats would complete 25% of that.

I think this is correct

[FlaviusAetius]

My internet is back up and I am town. Thus begins my grand train ride from Gamestart, Wyoming to Caught-Up, Colorado.

here we go YEE HAW

SEE @brain chaqa is NO longer a lurker because chaqa is going to start talking! YOU CANT KNOW whose a lurker and whose NOT a lurker until D2

[BunnyGo]

Reactions more in line with Eden's. I forgot I was playing with a group of trigger happy Cowboys who have no time for reasoning and logic.

Idk at least from my POV it just doesn't make any sense. town have 2 PRs currently, as the lawmen's shots aren't available yet, I just don't understand how it's beneficial for desperado to claim D1. IF you are the desperado, it's more than likely you miss anyways, why would you not wait until you are more sure on someone.

I think you might understand more if you looked at my D1 rate. Might as well claim rather than dealing with the stress of being top two D1 candidate.

Considering there had been meta discussion to give you/damo/HB some slack…why would you still do this?

[BunnyGo]

Just a moment.

ALL of this is going on, and somehow Sweet and myself are still the top two wagons???

I townread Sweet and am willing to buy his Desperado claim.

Why is he a main wagon?

Why am I a fucking main wagon other than for shit reasons like Deputy Ghug thinking I'm somehow vaguely "fake"?

There's some bullshit going down here.

Do you think scum is driving this bullshit or mistaken and frustrated town while scum sit back and enjoy?

[FlaviusAetius]

When I voted sweet JamieT made a post saying “uncc’d PR!!” Then also voted sweet.

I just looked up cc and that means counterclaim no counterclaims took place so what are you talking about

In general it is a bad idea to vote for a claimed PR where there is no CC.

I was doing this.

Jamie posted this was a bad idea.

Then Jamie did it too.

That is all.

The thing you dont understand is that we dont even need a CC here then. Sweet will be DISCOVERED N1 and we can off him D2 if he proves out to be a fake. It doesnt make SENSE that you are on his wagon right now and you need to get OFF. All three of you on his wagon right now look super sus