M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[damo666]

I don't approve of what sweet has done but I think voting him now is definitely wrong so I am going to policy vote Sweet voters until they move

##vote Bunny

[Hamilton Brian]

I catch up by replying to people and I also talk live for comments that I notice on the LATEST page. So I can respond to you WHILE catching up IM a fast typer so theres that

I do that and I get ‘“Hamilton you’re weird. Be more town if you’re town.” I for one like the fluidity.

[FlaviusAetius]

Balki
Brainbomb
Flavius
K-POP

You guys can all be in my Towntree.

Surprised Eden, Foodcoats and Hamilton didnt make your list. Or Bunny, or vecna.

Arent YOU the one who said your towncore should be small? Why are YOU the one suggesting Balki should have HALF the game as his town???

[President Eden]

##vote Flavius

sorry g your posts are exhausting af

[FlaviusAetius]

I don't approve of what sweet has done but I think voting him now is definitely wrong so I am going to policy vote Sweet voters until they move

##vote Bunny

Bad strategy if you think Bunny is mafia then say WHY you think Bunny is mafia, policy voting ISNT a good idea. FOR EXAMPLE in D2 Im going to look at the lurker that is MOST like a mafia and vote that person, there are FOUR sweet voters, Im lookin at them and seeing who I think is MOST like a mafia...

[sweetandcool]

"absolutely harmless" you made the WHOLE day about you. That ISNT harmless

No, OTHER players CHOSE to make the WHOLE day about me. Pretty interesting, isn't it?

you claimed twice what did you expect?

Reactions more in line with Eden's. I forgot I was playing with a group of trigger happy Cowboys who have no time for reasoning and logic.

[foodcoats]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

Haha. Okay if THIS is a real claim, then it’s kinda funny and neat. I guess we’ll find out.

##UNVOTE

[FlaviusAetius]

##vote Flavius

sorry g your posts are exhausting af

bruh how do i make them less exhausting then

[foodcoats]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

This is more plausible because if this was a lie, the real Desperado would shoot you in the face.

Well, not necessarily. It the Desperado is keeping up with sweetandcool, they know he fakeclaims as town.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Flavius

sorry g your posts are exhausting af

That's not a reason to scumread him

[lfischl]

No, OTHER players CHOSE to make the WHOLE day about me. Pretty interesting, isn't it?

you claimed twice what did you expect?

Reactions more in line with Eden's. I forgot I was playing with a group of trigger happy Cowboys who have no time for reasoning and logic.

Idk at least from my POV it just doesn't make any sense. town have 2 PRs currently, as the lawmen's shots aren't available yet, I just don't understand how it's beneficial for desperado to claim D1. IF you are the desperado, it's more than likely you miss anyways, why would you not wait until you are more sure on someone.

[FlaviusAetius]

Chaqa being absent here is 100% NAI. Bro has had himself a month of misery and is currently fighting a lack of Internet while balancing responsibilities as a new father.

AGREED. Lurkers are who we should be going after D2 you dont even know if one of the lurkers D1 will turn into a replacement it just doesnt make sense to take them out D1

[foodcoats]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

Sweet, if you are Desperado, do NOT follow the wagons, follow your gut. It was pointed out last game how PRs should not allow others to influence their choices because scum can manipulate that.

[lfischl]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

This is more plausible because if this was a lie, the real Desperado would shoot you in the face.

Well, not necessarily. It the Desperado is keeping up with sweetandcool, they know he fakeclaims as town.

he did that last game right?

[lfischl]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

Sweet, if you are Desperado, do NOT follow the wagons, follow your gut. It was pointed out last game how PRs should not allow others to influence their choices because scum can manipulate that.

^^^

[FlaviusAetius]

Jamie is town.

Sweet is town and is cleverly setting himself up to be the sacrificial N1 kill. Great town play. Be wise. Good luck.

I want to hear SWEET say this, you explained it that sounds like a good reason but I dont think its SWEET's reason because SWEET didn't say it FIRST. Instead he chose to double and triple down

I no longer think this since we cannot have a D1 lawman

Desperado which sweet is now claiming to be...

[FlaviusAetius]

A good part of why I scumread him (we were both town) was for fakeclaiming.

What did he claim?

When he was on the block, he claimed a role, and then later retracted the claim. He was a VT. In later discussions post-game sweet was quite adamant that he would be fakeclaiming as a matter of course in future games because he believes it is town optimal play.

And yet YOU now think he's scum as a result...? It just doesnt make sense dude

[foodcoats]

I am caught up and have to go do some work.

Reviewing the game so far, I have to vote for sweet. Sweet's claim is not beneficial, in my opinion, from any town role perspective. I see brain believes that it is a possible tactic to draw scum attention onto a VT, and I understand this. But I don't think that town trying to confuse mafia is a good play for town, because mafia have information, and town does not. Fake claims lead to misunderstanding and division for town. For example, mafia can profit from sweet's fakeclaim by simply ignoring him, enabling a suspicion-spiral later in the game. Sweet's play undermines the town more than it enables our PRs.

##VOTE sweetandcool

SO here's the issue with this number one if someone is claiming you should wait for that to be proven falsely instead of just immediately voting for them, we can discover sweet's fakeness this night so there's zero reason to actually vote him D1.
ALSO
you said sweet would be doing this regardless if you thought it was a bad idea then why didnt you say it then when he first said he was going to do it cause it was optimal town play sounds like YOU are switching up...WHY, NOW?

I don’t think I understand what you are asking. I was meta-punishing sweet to some degree, and he was making sorting difficult for town and so I wanted to remove him.

Sweet’s Desp claim has changed the nature of the information we have, so I have unvoted.

[foodcoats]

I am now totally lost in sauce (American pronunciation).
Sweet looks to have gone off his rocker, and I'm not inclined to touch that. Imho it's all a massive joke/gimmick with no particular end goal (assuming that sweet has indeed said out of game that he will be mass fake claiming).

I'd like to hear more from lfischl, who seems to have posted the least content of substance (perhaps with the exception of chaqa, but we at least have explanation of absence from chaqa and a promise to catch up, and nothing like that from lfischl).

Yeah, this is fair. Pressure worked on sweet…

##VOTE lfischl

[BunnyGo]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

##vote sweet

Why?

If he is not the real Desperado, the real Desperado can shoot him.

He might be a VT…it’s random! Why risk the desperado