M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[President Eden]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

Light his ass up!!!

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

Are you saying that you are sick or are you saying you regret your claim?

I don't like lying, it makes me feel bad.

Then why exactly did you?

Why not stay quiet about your role and just wait until you have a shot lined up?

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

Light his ass up!!!

Do you not think that if *this* is a lie, the actual Desperado would do precisely that?

[lfischl]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

This is tragic, if this is true I really hope you hit scum. Other than investigative sheriff this is the only other gaurenteed Town PR correct?

[sweetandcool]

Are you saying that you are sick or are you saying you regret your claim?

I don't like lying, it makes me feel bad.

Then why exactly did you?

Why not stay quiet about your role and just wait until you have a shot lined up?

We have a treasure trove of reactions to go through now :D

No regrets.

[foodcoats]

Hey I made it pretty well known that Im going for the lurkers in the future but D1 is not the day to do it thats the most useless thing you could ever do we have 48 hours to really TALK and vote people. Voting for our favorite lurker tells us NOTHING

I agree. This was a joke vote. I wanted to defuse the tension in the room and continue to harass damo for that time he beed me.

Well I dont like that you did a joke vote here we are supposed to be playing serious, serious things are happening you should involve yourself instead of trying to diffuse the tensions. The ONE thing sweet did that was good was get us right into the game real quick, and start having REAL conversations. He did in the WORSE way possible and makes him super sus but you trying to draw us away from that conversation is a big mistake

I understand the principle, but I made the post a few hours into the game when some people were getting upset. I wanted to provide some positive vibes. I would have a different approach at later times or later days.

[foodcoats]

How hard his claim is…

Balki’s next career is as a romance novelist. And I’m here for it.

But are you hard for it?

I’m a Bunny…

Thank you for the chuckle, you dirty dirty pig.

[Hamilton Brian]

So I have many pages to catch up on; just to send to check in and see the latest state of the game. I am currently on a train eastbound to Toronto to see Wilco at Massey Hall, and I am in my cups. As I was walking to the train, I was speculating to myself, is sweet trying to instigate a vigilante shot against themselves and if so, why?


But then the retraction…

[damo666]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

I was quasi right then. ##unvote

[damo666]

##vote king

no idea why

[FlaviusAetius]

Hi! I definitely did not lose track of the start date for this game! Bunny is being way more active than usual according to the bot and so I will

##VOTE BUNNYGO

*smash bro's intro*
Everyone is here!

The reason for scumreading someone for more active than usual is a interesting take. Dip got it right last game on balki when no one else was buying it. I have bunny as town; but ill be curious how this goes.

This is just such a bad policy to hold though dont we want to ENCOURAGE people to talk more? Suspecting someone for talking MORE is a big NO. Instead look at what they say, and make a judgement off of that.

[foodcoats]

For the benefit of people's ability to read the non-alignment indicative elements of play, Hamilton Brian always makes posts like this where he muses over the setup in the thread rather than reading the setup.

Well thats just silly and sounds like something someone would do if they didnt actually want to talk about anything significant

This is why we’ve been voting him off day 1 a lot. But we need to do better as a community to meet him where he is.

Agreed. Hamilton is not outside his town range here. I have no particularly strong opinion on his alignment.

[brainbomb]

Vecna also usually reads foodcoats correctly, catching him as scum in m53. Food is another player vecna talks about as town every game.

M48 vecna accurately townreads foodcoats day 1
M66 vecna accurately townreads foodcoats day 1
M67 scum vecna doesnt mention food day 1 later says:

he's one of those players where im usually one of the few people townreading him.

M86 accurately townreads foodcoats day 1
M87 scum vecna doesnt mention foodcoats - day 2 says

also im quite sure foodcoats this game is like a boeing

something something nuts, bolts, loose screws

M88 Scum Vecna scumreads foodcoats day 1

It feels like its very smooth, and not as messy as I like to think I remember foodcoats being.

M89 town vecna accurately reads foodcoats day 1

think this is the first game ever im liking foodcoats on d1.

maybe im just forgetting. I like foodcoats.

This seems to fit well within vecna desired early reads. He thinks he doesnt do it but he certainly has a penchant for accuracy.


All this research combined with my hamilton reasearch still give me a few tingly doubts mostly because I find food and hamilton town here. But vecna when he townreads food is very spot on. When he scumreads food its more in vecnas scum game to avoid any read at all than it is to come out swinging for food

[brainbomb]

*smash bro's intro*
Everyone is here!

The reason for scumreading someone for more active than usual is a interesting take. Dip got it right last game on balki when no one else was buying it. I have bunny as town; but ill be curious how this goes.

This is just such a bad policy to hold though dont we want to ENCOURAGE people to talk more? Suspecting someone for talking MORE is a big NO. Instead look at what they say, and make a judgement off of that.

Im open to the idea of bunny being scum. Its a poor starting point but dip seems to have thought it held some legitimacy. I dont see how this is currently a problem.

[BunnyGo]

I don’t think Chaqa lurking is alignment indicative. I think he does it as town and weaponizes it as scum.

Why does Chaqa always get called a lurker? I don't think I've ever seen him do that.

Did we catch sweet actively lying here?

No, sweet announced that all posts will be randomized on whether they are truthful or not no matter his alignment.

He's just as likely to post "I am scum" as VT or PR or scum.

Nothing matters!

[BunnyGo]

Okay guys, I feel absolutely horrible.

I was fake claiming Investigative Sheriff.

I am actually Desperado and am planning to shoot near EoD, about a half hour before deadline.

I will shoot the top wagon unless it is somehow me.

I was just claiming because I knew I would shoot today until I died.

##vote sweet

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't like lying, it makes me feel bad.

Then why exactly did you?

Why not stay quiet about your role and just wait until you have a shot lined up?

We have a treasure trove of reactions to go through now :D

No regrets.

You know what? Fair enough.

You took a risk that the real Sheriff might have cc'ed you, but since that has not materialised, fair play, you did get some reactions.

I want to ask again: When you voted for "Bona", did you realise this would be counted by the Bot as a vote for Bozo? Did you purposely cast that vote in order to move off me? If yes, why did you then repeatedly claim your vote was still on me, when it wasn't? If no, what were you doing?

I believe your Desperado claim, I just want to understand your thought processes.

[sweetandcool]

Why does Chaqa always get called a lurker? I don't think I've ever seen him do that.

Did we catch sweet actively lying here?

No, sweet announced that all posts will be randomized on whether they are truthful or not no matter his alignment.

He's just as likely to post "I am scum" as VT or PR or scum.

Nothing matters!

I would never claim scum because that would be playing against my win condition as either alignment.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote king

no idea why

Uh

[Hamilton Brian]

I think, correct me if I’m wrong, that we should put an absolute halt to any PR questions right now. It’s too early, I can’t see how Sweet thinks this is optimal, so I am trying to wrap my head around it.

As of now my two too “I think they’re town” are Jamie and Brain. And Brain isn’t because he towns me. I would have thought so regardless.