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Re: 20 ?s 332

#41 Post by Hominidae » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:15 pm

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Born in what is now Myanmar or Bhutan?
Scratch.

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#42 Post by wintergreen » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:34 pm

Hominidae wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:15 pm
Hominidae wrote:
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Born in what is now Myanmar or Bhutan?
Scratch.
Scratched.

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#43 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:11 am

Im waiting for someone else I dont know whats left, isnt Nepal only left?

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#44 Post by Hominidae » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:15 am

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:11 am
Im waiting for someone else I dont know whats left, isnt Nepal only left?
No, China and Taiwan are still in this.

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Re: 20 ?s 332

#45 Post by Hominidae » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:19 am

Is this person a native speaker of some variety of Chinese?

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#46 Post by Spartaculous » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:23 am

Is this person primarily known for the arts? (I acknowledge that a "yes" answer may be misleading, as you previously noted.)

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#47 Post by Spartaculous » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:25 am

Spartaculous wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:23 am
Is this person primarily known for the arts? (I acknowledge that a "yes" answer may be misleading, as you previously noted.)
Eh, I think I worked it all out? If I am correct, this was a nice puzzle posed by the QM.

If "yes" to the previous two questions, then:

Free guess: Zhang Decheng

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#48 Post by DreamTrawler » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:41 am

Spartaculous wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:25 am
Spartaculous wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:23 am
Is this person primarily known for the arts? (I acknowledge that a "yes" answer may be misleading, as you previously noted.)
Eh, I think I worked it all out? If I am correct, this was a nice puzzle posed by the QM.

If "yes" to the previous two questions, then:

Free guess: Zhang Decheng
huh. I was considering a martial artist but all the ones I could think of were born after 1850. Would being involved in the Boxer Rebellion be considered being involved in the politics of the Qing empire though?

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#49 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:49 am

DreamTrawler wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:41 am
Spartaculous wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:25 am
Spartaculous wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:23 am
Is this person primarily known for the arts? (I acknowledge that a "yes" answer may be misleading, as you previously noted.)
Eh, I think I worked it all out? If I am correct, this was a nice puzzle posed by the QM.

If "yes" to the previous two questions, then:

Free guess: Zhang Decheng
huh. I was considering a martial artist but all the ones I could think of were born after 1850. Would being involved in the Boxer Rebellion be considered being involved in the politics of the Qing empire though?
I think I said military or political figure so I would say yes

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#50 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:53 am

OMG a martial artist that makes so much more sense;
IF this person is a native chinese speaker
THEN
Is this person born in Southern China?
IF YES
Wong Fei Hung

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#51 Post by Spartaculous » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:03 am

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:53 am
OMG a martial artist that makes so much more sense;
IF this person is a native chinese speaker
THEN
Is this person born in Southern China?
IF YES
Wong Fei Hung
This is a *very* good shout. I think there is a very high chance the "misleading" tag is because this is a martial artist. If I had found Wong Fei Hung, I would have guessed him; I wasn't able to turn up any straight-up martial artists like him to guess.

(By the way, that was Q20, I think, so get in free guesses while you can.)
FlaviusAetius wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:49 am
DreamTrawler wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:41 am
Spartaculous wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:25 am


Eh, I think I worked it all out? If I am correct, this was a nice puzzle posed by the QM.

If "yes" to the previous two questions, then:

Free guess: Zhang Decheng
huh. I was considering a martial artist but all the ones I could think of were born after 1850. Would being involved in the Boxer Rebellion be considered being involved in the politics of the Qing empire though?
I think I said military or political figure so I would say yes
The other clue from the QM was at the very beginning:
wintergreen wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:27 pm
... and don't say I didn't warn you.
The line "Don't say we didn't warn you" is something Chinese diplomats rarely say, but is usually followed by an attack on a foreign country of some kind (India in 1962, Vietnam in 1979). This led me to the Boxer Rebellion. This may or may not line up with Q11, but I will let the guess stand.

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Re: 20 ?s 332

#52 Post by wintergreen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:54 am

Hominidae wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:19 am
Is this person a native speaker of some variety of Chinese?
Yes.
Spartaculous wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:23 am
Is this person primarily known for the arts? (I acknowledge that a "yes" answer may be misleading, as you previously noted.)
No.
FlaviusAetius wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:53 am
OMG a martial artist that makes so much more sense;
IF this person is a native chinese speaker
THEN
Is this person born in Southern China?
IF YES
Wong Fei Hung
No, not born in Southern China. But considering your information, that was a very good guess.

Since none of you are very close, I'll give a hint. My comment was a reference to the fact that I'm bending, if not breaking, rule 6 here.

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Re: 20 ?s 332

#53 Post by wintergreen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:17 am

And, in fact, amend my answer to question 18 to a pass, assumed yes.

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#54 Post by Hominidae » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:24 am

wintergreen wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:17 am
And, in fact, amend my answer to question 18 to a pass, assumed yes.
That means we're at only 19 questions then, right?

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#55 Post by wintergreen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:55 am

Sure does.

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#56 Post by Hominidae » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:12 pm

Clarification: you're confident that this person was a native speaker of a Sino-Tibetan language, but not confident that it was Chinese?

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Re: 20 ?s 332

#57 Post by wintergreen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:42 pm

Hominidae wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:12 pm
Clarification: you're confident that this person was a native speaker of a Sino-Tibetan language, but not confident that it was Chinese?
I'm not confident whether this person spoke Chinese or a non-Sino-Tibetan language.

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Re: 20 ?s 332

#58 Post by MythosOfMen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:52 pm

What an excellent puzzle you've selected, wintergreen. I'm stumped after hours of research. Because I have other things to do, I will submit my free guess, though I am fairly certain the odds are quite long.

Free guess: Kanaung Mintha.

Food for thought for other guessers: Not sure if your "bending rule 6" means it's a real person who inspired a fictional character, is super super obscure, or just something like an iteration of the Dalai Lama. Also it seems like we still have a wide array of countries bordering China, could be an obscure figure there, or someone from the Chinese diaspora of the 1800s? Or someone who shares one name with someone already on the list?

Anyway, I look forward to finding out. Enjoy your day!

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Re: 20 ?s 332

#59 Post by Hominidae » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:08 pm

I am wondering if this is a subject of a scientific study, or something like that. No idea who that would be.

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Re: 20 ?s 332

#60 Post by Hominidae » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:38 pm

wintergreen wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:42 pm
Hominidae wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:12 pm
Clarification: you're confident that this person was a native speaker of a Sino-Tibetan language, but not confident that it was Chinese?
I'm not confident whether this person spoke Chinese or a non-Sino-Tibetan language.
Logically this means that "native speaker of a Sino-Tibetan language" should have been a pass as well.

This sounds like I'm trying to be annoying, but I think it could improve gameplay to get an extra question.

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