M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

For those who don’t know the term:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grosvenor_gambit#:~:text=In%20the%20game%20of%20bridge,have%20acted%20illogically%20or%20incorrectly.

Basically you take a good situation and intentionally fuck it up in the hope you get it back later.

[foodcoats]

Just doing a bit of reading. I’ve now properly read Bunny and MM’s isos. I very lightly skimmed when I checked in at EOD and obviously missed some egregious stuff. That was poor sportsmanship on my part (for being completely absent) and I apologize.

I will keep up to speed from here on out.

[President Eden]

I think the only serious open question left is if the tadpole was actually destroyed

Impossible.

Any town who destroyed it should have said so.

It’s like claiming a role block in a normal game: you’re giving 0 intel to scum and some to your team. Yes, they may think you’re lying and that sucks, but you still have to say it.

Honestly I don’t even want to discuss the possibility lol. I think it’s more likely to engender random stupid paranoia than to achieve anything helpful.

[President Eden]

Guys I promise I am town.

Eden is going for the long-game. I swear it.

Eden is the least likely scum at the moment. Of ALL the people who might have bussed TheMad instead of voting me, he is the least likely. If he is scum, he made a huge Grosvenor. And it’s not worth catering to Grosvenors in this situation.

It would be even worse than that lol. I’d have passed a guaranteed win for no EV, in this game or any subsequent one

[Bonatogether]

ok misinterpreted what was happening with eden

can we not claim that everyone alive now, especially those on madmo, were provably online except for will and had the demonstrative capacity to just end the game, implying none are scum

[aarodactyl]

For those who don’t know the term:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grosvenor_gambit#:~:text=In%20the%20game%20of%20bridge,have%20acted%20illogically%20or%20incorrectly.

Basically you take a good situation and intentionally fuck it up in the hope you get it back later.

To be honest, I thought it was bait for a DN joke, so I just let it be.

[aarodactyl]

ok misinterpreted what was happening with eden

can we not claim that everyone alive now, especially those on madmo, were provably online except for will and had the demonstrative capacity to just end the game, implying none are scum

That's what Eden and Ezio have been saying. Everyone on Monarch was active at EOD except for Bunny. And then Worcej and Food were also active.

By active, I'm just going on last post time before EOD. Out of the 6 people active at EOD (me, you, Eden, Ezio, Worcej, Food) all posted within the last 6 minutes

[Bonatogether]

also - pr things that i need to type out for myself

ghug unknown but town

5 town pr
- dipandwar the dueler
- fox the vig
- vecna the bomb
- bunny the tracker ?
- food the knowledge role ?

14 town vt
- hb
- kak
- damo
- flav
- squiggs
- demon
- jamie
- yoyo
- dousing
- sweet
- colby
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-
-

3 scum pr
- macca the janitor
- unknown the doublekill
-

2 goons
- balki
- flum

1 tadpole ?
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people alive: (list copypasted from somewhere)
Aarodactyl: VT
Bonatogether: VT
BunnyGo: PR
foodcoats: PR
JustAGuyNamedWill: VT
President Eden: VT
Worcej: VT

so we have 0-1 scum in bunny and food
and we have 2-3 scum in aaro, bona, will, eden, and worcej

if food is town, then ghug is vt and bunny is legit. do not think that relation goes the other way - if bunny is town, then either ghug or food started as a town pr, so if food is scum, he must have been tadpoled and almost immediately killed after. also, madmo must have bussed him the day after. unlikely, so i believe we can lock in food (and therefore bunny as town). no ccs should be taken.

therefore i end up with, from a neutral perspective, 3 scum in aaro, bona, will, eden, worcej.

i scumread aaro and will. gut is unsure between eden and worcej, but if eden was scum, there was no reason for him to not just end it right there.

therefore i submit a scumteam of aaro, will, worcej, flum, balki, and madmo

[Bonatogether]

also - pr things that i need to type out for myself
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if food is town, then ghug is vt and bunny is legit. do not think that relation goes the other way - if bunny is town, then either ghug or food started as a town pr, so if food is scum, he must have been tadpoled and almost immediately killed after. also, madmo must have bussed him the day after. unlikely, so i believe we can lock in food (and therefore bunny as town). no ccs should be taken.

to clarify - that strict relation does not hold in strict logic truth table terms, but i think it works

[Bonatogether]

also - pr things that i need to type out for myself
snip

therefore i end up with, from a neutral perspective, 3 scum in aaro, bona, will, eden, worcej.


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i scumread aaro and will. gut is unsure between eden and worcej, but if eden was scum, there was no reason for him to not just end it right there.

therefore i submit a scumteam of aaro, will, worcej, flum, balki, and madmo

also, after the dashed line takes into account my own knowledge of my alignment and my prior reads and is not a logical hammer

[foodcoats]

Bona can you tell me why you scumread aaro?

[Ezio]

also - pr things that i need to type out for myself
snip

therefore i end up with, from a neutral perspective, 3 scum in aaro, bona, will, eden, worcej.


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i scumread aaro and will. gut is unsure between eden and worcej, but if eden was scum, there was no reason for him to not just end it right there.

therefore i submit a scumteam of aaro, will, worcej, flum, balki, and madmo

also, after the dashed line takes into account my own knowledge of my alignment and my prior reads and is not a logical hammer

Please stop. We did it. It's over. If any town was wrong, mafia hop on and we lose.

Eden was online at EoD. If Eden flips, it's over. He *cannot* be scum.

People were online close enough to EoD, they could all have reacted. It's done fam.

[Bonatogether]

Bona can you tell me why you scumread aaro?

i posted a case about it. the tl;dr is that my prior for town!aaro, even when busy, to contribute meaningful analytical work. he hasn't done that, and his only response to the case was a small nitpick.

[Ezio]

Bona can you tell me why you scumread aaro?

i posted a case about it. the tl;dr is that my prior for town!aaro, even when busy, to contribute meaningful analytical work. he hasn't done that, and his only response to the case was a small nitpick.

stahp.
The only people you're allowed to post cases on are: Worcej, Will, and Foodcoats.

[foodcoats]

also - pr things that i need to type out for myself
snip

therefore i end up with, from a neutral perspective, 3 scum in aaro, bona, will, eden, worcej.


-----
i scumread aaro and will. gut is unsure between eden and worcej, but if eden was scum, there was no reason for him to not just end it right there.

therefore i submit a scumteam of aaro, will, worcej, flum, balki, and madmo

also, after the dashed line takes into account my own knowledge of my alignment and my prior reads and is not a logical hammer

Please stop. We did it. It's over. If any town was wrong, mafia hop on and we lose.

Eden was online at EoD. If Eden flips, it's over. He *cannot* be scum.

People were online close enough to EoD, they could all have reacted. It's done fam.

I agree that Eden cannot be scum.

[foodcoats]

Bona can you tell me why you scumread aaro?

i posted a case about it. the tl;dr is that my prior for town!aaro, even when busy, to contribute meaningful analytical work. he hasn't done that, and his only response to the case was a small nitpick.

stahp.
The only people you're allowed to post cases on are: Worcej, Will, and Foodcoats.

I’m town. I was the wrong town, and I’m lucky I moved with two minutes.

[Ezio]

i posted a case about it. the tl;dr is that my prior for town!aaro, even when busy, to contribute meaningful analytical work. he hasn't done that, and his only response to the case was a small nitpick.

stahp.
The only people you're allowed to post cases on are: Worcej, Will, and Foodcoats.

I’m town. I was the wrong town, and I’m lucky I moved with two minutes.

Your move was irrelevant, and you're scum. You moved after the vote was already decided by Eden, and the rest of town.

[Ezio]

stahp.
The only people you're allowed to post cases on are: Worcej, Will, and Foodcoats.

I’m town. I was the wrong town, and I’m lucky I moved with two minutes.

Your move was irrelevant, and you're scum. You moved after the vote was already decided by Eden, and the rest of town.

Like, how on earth do you look at Eden moving from Bunny to Monarch and try to vote Eden lol.

[foodcoats]

stahp.
The only people you're allowed to post cases on are: Worcej, Will, and Foodcoats.

I’m town. I was the wrong town, and I’m lucky I moved with two minutes.

Your move was irrelevant, and you're scum. You moved after the vote was already decided by Eden, and the rest of town.

I’m town, Ezio.

For me to be scum you have to believe I would declare ghug’s alignment despite my teammate being the necromancer. You have to believe MM ended on a town player every day except one time, me, her teammate.

[foodcoats]

I’m town. I was the wrong town, and I’m lucky I moved with two minutes.

Your move was irrelevant, and you're scum. You moved after the vote was already decided by Eden, and the rest of town.

Like, how on earth do you look at Eden moving from Bunny to Monarch and try to vote Eden lol.

As explained I was not caught up on the game.