M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[worcej]

Eh nah.

##vote Bunny. Part of being wrong about Sweet meant I flip everything on its head. That includes my townread of bunny.

Good luck Monarch.

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[Bonatogether]

for me, people i scumread are voting the person i had a greater townread on, and some people i townread are voting the person i scumread

[Bonatogether]

##vote bunnygo

food, if you're town, you should join

[President Eden]

##unvote for now

[President Eden]

Monarch, what exactly was ghug’s role?

[worcej]

If ghug was mafia, we have a miskill to spare, we can flip Monarch and then Bunny if Monarch is town.

If ghug was town, we’re out of miskills, have to choose between Monarch or Bunny, and Monarch would be lying about ghug’s role.

…Conversely, there’s a maximalist position where we just believe in the world where Monarch is right, kill Bunny, hit mafia, and still have a miskill in our back pocket.

Thoughts? And also thoughts on the claims themselves?
I actually don’t see any glaring contradiction in Monarch’s story at first blush…

Trying to understand what Bunny is doing here. He’s being obtuse for information reasons but is this masking?

Monarch giving full details and the crumb seem to be more authentic only knowing her meta, but I feel this requires food to be scum and twisting the message from the GY…

[dargorygel]

##GM NOTE (vote count)

Through the Dusk, the players look up and see numbers and faces appearing on the sky… wait, wrong franchise…

BunnyGo (3) Ezio, TheMadMonarch, Bonatogether
TheMadMonarch (2) BunnyGo, aarodactyl
President Eden (1) foodcoats

Unvote: President Eden

Two End votes… Bunny and Eden

Not Voting: JustAGuyNamedWill, worcej

Around 6 ¼ hours left in this DAY.

[TheMadMonarch]

Monarch, what exactly was ghug’s role?

Goon.

If he was a PR, I would have put that info in the crumb also.

[TheMadMonarch]

Alright team, It's sleepy-bobos time for me.

I really think Bunny is the go today, but if you decide to vote me, that is your prerogative.

Best of luck, and I hope to wake up tomorrow to see that we got one and the game goes on!

[President Eden]

Monarch, what exactly was ghug’s role?

Goon.

If he was a PR, I would have put that info in the crumb also.

Thanks. So if you’re telling the truth…

There were three goons this game (Balki, Fluminator, ghug), meaning one of them accepted the tadpole. Specifically either Fluminator or ghug. (AND THEN GOT SHOT LOL GET FUCKED NERDS)

And one of foodcoats or Bunny MUST be mafia, because we have one excess PR claim between them. But they would be an actual mafia PR and not a tadpoled one.

That would also make the Battle Master confirmed scum.

[worcej]

Monarch, what exactly was ghug’s role?

Goon.

If he was a PR, I would have put that info in the crumb also.

Thanks. So if you’re telling the truth…

There were three goons this game (Balki, Fluminator, ghug), meaning one of them accepted the tadpole. Specifically either Fluminator or ghug. (AND THEN GOT SHOT LOL GET FUCKED NERDS)

And one of foodcoats or Bunny MUST be mafia, because we have one excess PR claim between them. But they would be an actual mafia PR and not a tadpoled one.

That would also make the Battle Master confirmed scum.

Honestly ghug or Flum make sense as the tadpole targets from a meta perspective.

[Ezio]

Monarch, why didn't you claim that Ghug was scum all those years ago? It would have made the game much easier for me. I was going back through the game and I was assuming he was town.

[President Eden]

It does seem kind of odd for a 1-shot town PR with hidden info to hide like that. I think that’s my biggest hangup. Monarch crumbed pretty well, but isn’t it a pretty big deal that ghug was scum?

[Ezio]

It does seem kind of odd for a 1-shot town PR with hidden info to hide like that. I think that’s my biggest hangup. Monarch crumbed pretty well, but isn’t it a pretty big deal that ghug was scum?

It's kinda an absolutely massive deal, and it's a little too late to get anything from it.
I would have been less sus of Dousing for sure. I would have been much much much less sus of Dousing. Like, never would I ever have pushed him in that position.
If Monarch had claimed this earlier, we'd have also known we were investigating a Mafia team of only 3, not a Mafia team of 4 like we've previously thought.

We told the Necro to claim *ages* ago because of this, and we therefore assumed Necro had to be scum by failing to do so.

It's so tilting b/c Monarch is the one person it could be, who would have done it and not said anything. It actually does fit with her playstyle:
namely not giving a shit about the game or any of the other players in it.

[Ezio]

But, I believe that's possible.

Sweet certainly thought it was true, and it lines up. I kinda also believe bunny at this point.

##vote Food.

I thought I caught his ass years ago and his PR claim got me off of him. If I was right about Food, I'll feel 100000% better about my game.

[Ezio]

But, I believe that's possible.

Sweet certainly thought it was true, and it lines up. I kinda also believe bunny at this point.

##vote Food.

I thought I caught his ass years ago and his PR claim got me off of him. If I was right about Food, I'll feel 100000% better about my game.

Well, specifically Worcej pointing out the fact that he was a PR, and me realizing a big part of my case was based on VCA from Balki while I was assuming that BM was town.
Given that I think BM was Mafia now obviously my VCA was false, but my meta analysis was still valid, and hopefully correct.

[Ezio]

Ghug being Scum also makes Will look better.

Welp. It seems like Sweet did solve the game for town. We'll see about bunny though.

If Sweet was right about Monarch who is telling the truth about Ghug being role-less mafia, Mafia did have 3 VT and therefore town *does* have 5 PR's. Therefore only one of Food and Bunny are scum.

[Ezio]

God damnit. Town taking so long to claim their roles and letting us figure out there's a scum in the PR claims (specifically food) really really really really fucked us over this game.

FlaviusAetius (7)
Col7by Bonatogether BunnyGo DemonRHK worcej President Eden foodcoats
foodcoats (6) Ezio Squigs44 sweetandcool JustAGuyNamedWill Yoyoyozo Dousing

Look at these wagons and this EoD2. If it's actually TvS, everyone on the Foodcoats wagon looked so fucking good. Sweet/Yoyo/Dousing would never have been miskilled, at least I'd never have voted them.

I assumed this day was TvT so these wagons were more meaningless, but people on the Flavius wagon looked really bad. There are also a shocking number of them left alive.

Back when we thought this day was TvTvS(flum was the scum), people ending on Food could have been seen to protect Flum. That was the case against Dousing due to the timing of his vote. If food is scum though, it doesn't look that way at all. It makes the people who ended on the one town there look *horrible*.

This was scum saving Food. Will is therefore town.
Bona/Bunny/Worcej/Eden/Food... wait a second. There are too many people there. 5 people and 3 scum.

[Ezio]

@monarch, are you not ashamed? You did a good job sniping Ghug, but you *need* to think of town as a whole, especially in a game like this.

By holding your claim for so fucking long, you've really messed up all of my analysis at least. Idk if anyone else was thinking about this game.

[Ezio]

Bona/Bunny/Worcej/Eden/Food... wait a second. There are too many people there. 5 people and 3 scum.
This is not the end of the world.

In the world where Food is scum and Monarch is telling the Truth, the world I'm choosing to live in right now,

Bunny is a town PR as well.

So there are 2 scum within Bona/Worcej/Eden. We also have 1 miskill remaining.