M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[President Eden]

I don’t really care to fight sweet’s insufferable bullshit.

Anyone fairly reading my posts N5 can conclude that I was skeptical of Will’s lame posting around EOD but that I was not whipping anyone up to kill him. I listed him second in my initial POE stab after sweet because my POE was essentially sweet + a handful of nulls at that point. I kept working and thinking about the game and never really demoted Will from my second guess… but no one can realistically say I was pushing people to kill Will.

Anyone fairly reading the Battle Master situation would realize how batshit ridiculous it is to assert that the mafia would spend their power to make lfischl of all people a clear. Bro was cruising for a modkill right afterward and it’s only by my terrible decision to sub that he wasn’t. This is obviously a post hoc invention sweet needs to justify his push and not an objective view of the evidence.

sweet is either scum or moronic town, but either way I will credit his work ethic. He’s going to outwork me on this. He might even get me killed. I do not care. Do what you will.

[sweetandcool]

will reaction here is lockscum behavior

Pushing for another MK target.

[sweetandcool]

I bet Bona and Will have been shitposting in their 24/7 scumchat all game

Pushing another MK target

[sweetandcool]

I bet Bona and Will have been shitposting in their 24/7 scumchat all game

SnC+Bona+Will+someone... My guess is it's someone else on the Dousing wagon and Will didn't wanna over concentrate it.

yea that’s what I think too

I was flipping my vote around to try to bait more movement but it didn’t work like I hoped

Promoting a 100% inaccurate list (sorry Ezio).

[sweetandcool]

get his ass

I assume this is about Town Will.

This is not encouraging anti-Will sentiment?

[sweetandcool]

I don’t really care to fight sweet’s insufferable bullshit.

Anyone fairly reading my posts N5 can conclude that I was skeptical of Will’s lame posting around EOD but that I was not whipping anyone up to kill him. I listed him second in my initial POE stab after sweet because my POE was essentially sweet + a handful of nulls at that point. I kept working and thinking about the game and never really demoted Will from my second guess… but no one can realistically say I was pushing people to kill Will.

Anyone fairly reading the Battle Master situation would realize how batshit ridiculous it is to assert that the mafia would spend their power to make lfischl of all people a clear. Bro was cruising for a modkill right afterward and it’s only by my terrible decision to sub that he wasn’t. This is obviously a post hoc invention sweet needs to justify his push and not an objective view of the evidence.

sweet is either scum or moronic town, but either way I will credit his work ethic. He’s going to outwork me on this. He might even get me killed. I do not care. Do what you will.

Thanks for letting me know I am on the right track.

This is the first phase where sweetandcool is really "working". So your attempt to discredit me is quite hollow.

[President Eden]

I don’t really care to fight sweet’s insufferable bullshit.

Anyone fairly reading my posts N5 can conclude that I was skeptical of Will’s lame posting around EOD but that I was not whipping anyone up to kill him. I listed him second in my initial POE stab after sweet because my POE was essentially sweet + a handful of nulls at that point. I kept working and thinking about the game and never really demoted Will from my second guess… but no one can realistically say I was pushing people to kill Will.

Anyone fairly reading the Battle Master situation would realize how batshit ridiculous it is to assert that the mafia would spend their power to make lfischl of all people a clear. Bro was cruising for a modkill right afterward and it’s only by my terrible decision to sub that he wasn’t. This is obviously a post hoc invention sweet needs to justify his push and not an objective view of the evidence.

sweet is either scum or moronic town, but either way I will credit his work ethic. He’s going to outwork me on this. He might even get me killed. I do not care. Do what you will.

Thanks for letting me know I am on the right track.

This is the first phase where sweetandcool is really “working”. So your attempt to discredit me is quite hollow.

lol

[sweetandcool]

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Me watching as town loses one of their two remaining miskills because i pulled up a meme hella fast

Weird how you talk about town in the third person

Wow, shading Will again.

[sweetandcool]

Current towncore:
Foxcastle
foodcoats
Ezio
aarodactyl
BunnyGo
worcej

Rough kill priority (high to low):
sweetandcool
JustAGuyNamedWill
Bonatogether
TheMadMonarch
Col7by


Some level of rationale forthcoming

His first four on the kill priority are Town. Who'd have thunk?

[sweetandcool]

How is Bona so far behind on catchup?

the performative nature of it is suspect to me

I get being behind. I don’t get why he thinks it’s helpful to live tweet (live… x…? dammit Elon) his catchup

This is the 2nd game scum Eden has attempted to discredit Bona with this line of reasoning.

Yeah, Bona's live catch-ups are soooooooo scummy (no they are not).

[sweetandcool]

First of all, source on the claim that town driven = active player kill. That doesn’t pass muster.
You even handwave d1 when that day theoretically should be the best day to observe trends like that; town have little to go on and hit the nail sticking out the farthest, while mafia go for uncontroversial kills on inactive to avoid committing to stances on active players.

Second, you know food, Fox, and Ezio were the main drivers of d5 right? You’ve got them all in town or town leans. So by your own reads you can’t really say d5 was scum driven. I guess you want to pin it all on me and sweet and aaro, but that just doesn’t track with what actually happened.

Eden is very correct that the majority of wagons everyday have been mostly Town driven. Part of that has to do with us clearing Eden too early. Part of that has to do with excessive amounts of policy kills essentially.

[sweetandcool]

I think you missed the memo MM. Bona should have told you in scumchat that y’all can’t realistically push foodcoats anymore

Adding MadMonarch to the pile of Town that he is associating with scumchat.

[sweetandcool]

might not be back before EON

further notes:

squiggs for sweet: worcej is scum and everyone else TRs him
ghug: no worcej is town b/c he is trying to kill MM and scum worcej tries to keep her alive

Idk. If MM is town, mafia worcej has a ‘logical’/‘tactical’/‘objective’ reason to push a miskill and get this thing to LYLO with 3 teammates alive. I could see mafia cashing in a low-risk miskill just to get to LYLO with 4 voices to steer the vote wrong.
Could also be busing… suboptimal IMO but if you’re sure tomorrow is sweetandcool day, what’s the risk? (This scenario suggests sweet is town ofc.)

I’m coming around to scum worc possibility here.
Plus Fox is on it, and he’s been on fire this game

Ah, so either Town Monarch is Mafia OR Town worcej is Mafia.

[sweetandcool]

doubt I’m going anywhere, but just in case…

“Logical” guess: sweetandcool, JustAGuyNamedWill, MadMonarch, ???

“Wild” guess: sweetandcool, worcej, Ezio, ???

Just don’t kill Fox, food, Bunny, aaro.
Bona stonks up, worc stonks down

It looks to me his solve literally includes zero Mafia.

[President Eden]

Honestly, the more you keep going, the more I hope you win the thunderdome. I don’t have to suffer through this anymore and you look completely ridiculous. Win-win

[sweetandcool]

quote marks because I’m not sure how logical the “logical” list really is and I’m not sure how wild the “wild” list really is.

I can’t really square sweet’s claim either way. sweet, you may be right that this site is too hostile to fakeclaims from town, but this particular claim is making the case for that hostility IMO. the best explanation for you is that it was a self-serving effort to avert a miskill that might ultimately only delay it while sucking a lot of oxygen out of the room. the more probable explanation (IMO) is you’re mafia making a play I can’t fully understand without all your info. it’s water under the bridge now and I’m not going to harp on it.

We have too many people who “need to flip” and not enough flips. I don’t think that can be a legitimate basis for a kill at this point and I’m leery of people pushing to make it so.

gl

There's more nuance to my shitty fake claim, but Eden is mostly right in this post.

Of course, it's a masterful post to subtly shade all of the "policy voters" out there.

He is right, we need to solve, not just lazily plunk votes on players who are "anti-town".

[sweetandcool]

Honestly, the more you keep going, the more I hope you win the thunderdome. I don’t have to suffer through this anymore and you look completely ridiculous. Win-win

You could try solving.

Suppose sweetandcool is Mafia.

Now bowtie a narrative that solves a couple Mafia and/or gives compelling evidence for some players to be Town.

Or just talk about disparate players and their individual likelihood of being scum based on their performance in the game so far. Like you've been doing for a while now.

[foodcoats]

We have one miskill right? I still think we someone that will give the most info if we are gonna risk that and will/MM don’t do that. Sweet would but I think that the scum are trying to line them up to be the final miskill. I think Eden or ezio (whichever one sweet meant to scumread) would be best vote based on other people’s thoughts this game

Can you explain why you scumread Eden and Ezio?

I don’t I think that I want to trust sweets read on this one that’s why

Why do you trust sweet?

[foodcoats]

probbaly mafia atp

In that case, how statistically likely do you think it is the scum would use the BM power on D2, and Eden/lfischl is scum? Please look at the wagons that day.

What do you think of my case regarding the duel?

Unfortunately, I am not nearly able to participate the way I want.

But I spent a ton of time solving. But it also takes a ton of time writing a good case, which I wish I could have written better.

I can definitely see a world where lfischl/Eden is scum, but it is an extra-complicated world, and I don't think it is a good idea to make a hero call right now.

[President Eden]

Honestly, the more you keep going, the more I hope you win the thunderdome. I don’t have to suffer through this anymore and you look completely ridiculous. Win-win

You could try solving.

Suppose sweetandcool is Mafia.

Now bowtie a narrative that solves a couple Mafia and/or gives compelling evidence for some players to be Town.

Or just talk about disparate players and their individual likelihood of being scum based on their performance in the game so far. Like you’ve been doing for a while now.

I don’t care to. You’re exhausting.