M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[aarodactyl]

##vote aaro for being fake and unable to come up with the independent logical trains of thought i associate with him

I legitimately have way busier than expected recently. I’m essentially a manager at work now and it’s way harder to slack off when people are asking you questions about work you told them to do. And Tuesdays are softball day this time of year so I just got home.

so sad

You have no idea. We also lost the softball game and I was the last out. Tragic stuff.

Also I see a lot of posts about saying food is scum. I think they’re silly because I feel like the d3 speed wagon doesn’t happen if food is scum.

I don’t see any food votes atm so maybe people understand this but we should absolutely not vote out food today just on the basis they’re PR. There’s a good chance, we’ll be able to sort them eventually once enough other PR flips.

[TheMadMonarch]

I changed my mind.

Food is good actually.

Dead people posts are good, and he's also being otherwise insightful.

I was wrong to judge you. I apologise.

You are wrong about Vecna though.

[TheMadMonarch]

We'll park ##VOTE YOYO for now.

For OMGUS reasons.

[TheMadMonarch]

I changed my mind.

Food is good actually.

Dead people posts are good, and he's also being otherwise insightful.

I was wrong to judge you. I apologise.

You are wrong about Vecna though.

I did note it down!

I liked what food said in #6196

[foodcoats]

I changed my mind.

Food is good actually.

Dead people posts are good, and he's also being otherwise insightful.

I was wrong to judge you. I apologise.

You are wrong about Vecna though.

Why did you originally vote for me?

[foodcoats]

Wait why the fuck did the bot register that I voted for Vecna?

Ah, I see, the broken quotes…

##VOTE Dousing

[foodcoats]

I'll just start with this ##VOTE Vecna

Tomorrow will be another busy day, so other than being swayed by some arguments I will probably only vote Vecna or yoyoyo.

##VOTE Vecna

Sweet i don’t think I ever saw your argument vs. Vecna… and you voted him yesterday also. Why do you think Vecna is scum?

[foodcoats]

Scum pool:

JustWill, Sweetandcool, Dousing, MadMonarch, and one of the good players, who has pulled the wool over my eyes. Eden? Yoyo?

Strongly townread Vecna, Foodcoats, and moderately townread Col7by, Ezio.

I agree with Jamie that JustWill is also a good kill for today. His reads don’t make any sense… particularly I found it weird how he scumread Bona at Ezio’s insistence and has also implied worcej is scum today. He has six scum reads and three town; one of his townreads is Fox who is essentially mechanically clear. Will does not feel like a townsperson, he feels like he is randomly spewing under the radar.

[foodcoats]

Today might be the day to kill MM. If MM is town she is going to lose us at the game at SOME point so we have to get rid of her to have any chance of winning. She has conveniently vote-parked on a known town (from my POV anyway) every day, although this is statistically not scum-indicative (except that statistically Yoyo should be scum she has randomly parked on if she is town… statistically, or if wearing tinfoil could be an intentional end-on-a-bus move).

Killing MM does not feel great but I feel it has to be done. Or at least we have to decide, do we carry MM forever and just cross fingers she is town?

Thoughts?

[foodcoats]

Today might be the day to kill MM. If MM is town she is going to lose us at the game at SOME point so we have to get rid of her to have any chance of winning. She has conveniently vote-parked on a known town (from my POV anyway) every day, although this is statistically not scum-indicative (except that statistically Yoyo should be scum she has randomly parked on if she is town… statistically, or if wearing tinfoil could be an intentional end-on-a-bus move).

Killing MM does not feel great but I feel it has to be done. Or at least we have to decide, do we carry MM forever and just cross fingers she is town?

Thoughts?

I would really like to hear about this from my town friends. Again I feel shitty making this argument but it is strategy. MM is an endgame liability or scum. If we are going to lose due to town MM lurking and not explaining her thought process I’d rather the game end sooner lol.

[BunnyGo]

Ok, who would like to "yes, and" any of this analysis?

I'm going to take a short break now that it's midnight to get a snack, and crochet a little.

translation...I'm going to fall asleep...

[BunnyGo]

Flavius was a townread D1. Why would I vote him???

I only wanted Flume D1, briefly left for damo because I was a bit triggered by his behavior. Then immediately regretted it because I remembered I thought he was likely PR and if only one person was on the Flum wagon it wasn't going to grow.

Of course I didn't want the Flum wagon to die.

"widely townread day 1" you didn't like the Ham and damo wagons...why ignore the third choice? Why phrase the 4th highest wagon as "best choice of the top 3"?

Jeeze I like how you keep choosing to misinterpret me in the worst way possible. SWEETANDCOOL townread Flavius. HE WAS A TOWN READ OF SWEETANDCOOL'S

I have no idea whether he was "widely townread" D1.

Hmm...that is an interesting reading error by me.

[BunnyGo]

Day 2...

Strap in folks. This was a CRAZY day.

Balki Bartokomous (13)
Squigs44 DiplomacyandWarfare sweetandcool Col7by FlaviusAetius ghug aarodactyl Vecna Fluminator Ezio Foxcastle Bonatogether lfischl
DiplomacyandWarfare (6)
DemonRHK* worcej Jamiet99uk Yoyoyozo foodcoats BunnyGo
ghug (2)
Dousing JustAGuyNamedWill
damo666 (1)
TheMadMonarch
No‑Kill (1)
Balki Bartokomous


Well, this tells NONE of the interesting story.

Let's back up to earlier in the day when damo got damo'd!

Damo died with 6:27 to go in the day.

The status at the time:


damo (6) (no particular order) TheMadMonarch lfishl/Eden Jamie Fox food Col7by

ghug (3) Dousing Ezio Flavius

Flav (2) aaro Bona

lfish/Eden (2) Flum Squigs

Balki (2) D&W sweet

The last move had been sweet to Balki.


The damo wagon mostly moved the FishyEden.

Sweet then proceeds to jump around from Balki to several known towns, only going back to Balki when the wagon is back down to 1. This exactly mimics his voting day 1 with scum Flum wagon.

Amusingly sweet's move to Balki came right before the duel was announced.

After the duel his only posts are saying how D&W will fail, and interacting with Flum to say lfisch was the better choice. And this was a mistake but should be rewarded. And that Fox should bus his teammate.

##vote sweet. Maybe sweet's double bussing again.

Some of that stuff sounds like I could be signalling teammates.

But remember the magic word: DAYCHAT

Daychat still needs public facing theatre

the vote patterns are more concerning

[BunnyGo]

I'll just start with this ##VOTE Vecna

Tomorrow will be another busy day, so other than being swayed by some arguments I will probably only vote Vecna or yoyoyo.

##VOTE Vecna

why vecna?

[BunnyGo]

I legitimately have way busier than expected recently. I’m essentially a manager at work now and it’s way harder to slack off when people are asking you questions about work you told them to do. And Tuesdays are softball day this time of year so I just got home.

so sad

You have no idea. We also lost the softball game and I was the last out. Tragic stuff.

Also I see a lot of posts about saying food is scum. I think they’re silly because I feel like the d3 speed wagon doesn’t happen if food is scum.

I don’t see any food votes atm so maybe people understand this but we should absolutely not vote out food today just on the basis they’re PR. There’s a good chance, we’ll be able to sort them eventually once enough other PR flips.

This is terrible logic.

You mean the Day 3 speedwagon when food was up against a town and ALL the people who moved to it were NOT moving off the known scum wagon?

Why does that suggest food is town to you?

This didn't read a single post of mine or others on the logic of food; I hadn't even mentioned counting PRs (town/scum) to consider if food is scum.

Sadly...this tracks.

[BunnyGo]

Today might be the day to kill MM. If MM is town she is going to lose us at the game at SOME point so we have to get rid of her to have any chance of winning. She has conveniently vote-parked on a known town (from my POV anyway) every day, although this is statistically not scum-indicative (except that statistically Yoyo should be scum she has randomly parked on if she is town… statistically, or if wearing tinfoil could be an intentional end-on-a-bus move).

Killing MM does not feel great but I feel it has to be done. Or at least we have to decide, do we carry MM forever and just cross fingers she is town?

Thoughts?

I would really like to hear about this from my town friends. Again I feel shitty making this argument but it is strategy. MM is an endgame liability or scum. If we are going to lose due to town MM lurking and not explaining her thought process I’d rather the game end sooner lol.

How did you know a duel was going on?

[BunnyGo]

Wait why the fuck did the bot register that I voted for Vecna?

Ah, I see, the broken quotes…

##VOTE Dousing

Why Dousing?

[dargorygel]

GM MORNING COFFEE AND VC

Dousing (2) Ezio, foodcoats
Yoyoyozo (2) Yoyoyozo, TheMadMonarch
Vecna (2) JustAGuyNamedWill, sweeetandcool
worcej (1) Foxcastle
aarodactyl (1) Bonatogether
sweetandcool (1) BunnyGo
Bonatogether (1) President Eden

Come on, folk… don’t make me kill you tonight: aarodactyl, Col7by, Dousing, Vecna, worcej

Day ends in 9 and a quarter hours.

[BunnyGo]

Based on Day 1 and Day 2:

I think sweet is the sketchiest, something offputting about that guy. But it could be me.

I think food is the weirdest. How did he know to vote in a duel? Where did he go?

I think Fishy is the fishiest. He placed weird and crucial votes and disappeared at weird times.

##vote pres

[foodcoats]

Today might be the day to kill MM. If MM is town she is going to lose us at the game at SOME point so we have to get rid of her to have any chance of winning. She has conveniently vote-parked on a known town (from my POV anyway) every day, although this is statistically not scum-indicative (except that statistically Yoyo should be scum she has randomly parked on if she is town… statistically, or if wearing tinfoil could be an intentional end-on-a-bus move).

Killing MM does not feel great but I feel it has to be done. Or at least we have to decide, do we carry MM forever and just cross fingers she is town?

Thoughts?

I would really like to hear about this from my town friends. Again I feel shitty making this argument but it is strategy. MM is an endgame liability or scum. If we are going to lose due to town MM lurking and not explaining her thought process I’d rather the game end sooner lol.

How did you know a duel was going on?

What? On D2?