M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Bonatogether]

##vote aaro for being fake and unable to come up with the independent logical trains of thought i associate with him

also cc: my vca post

[BunnyGo]

Thank you for joining me for this study session. First, we'll examine the happenings, motivations, and lessons from Day 1.

We'll start at the end:

Hamilton Brian (9) Fluminator Ezio Foxcastle BunnyGo worcej Vecna sweetandcool DiplomacyandWarfare damo666
damo666 (6) Squigs44 Dousing Chaqa\YOYO foodcoats FlaviusAetius Jamiet99uk
FlaviusAetius (3) JustAGuyNamedWill aarodactyl DemonRHK
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) Hamilton Brian Kakarroto
kingofthepirates\BALKI (1) kingofthepirates\BALKI
Vecna (1) TheMadMonarch
BunnyGo (1) ghug*
ghug (1) Bonatogether
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Col7by
Fluminator (1) lfischl\EDEN


Every wagon with more than 1 voter was town.

Almost every voter on these wagons is known to be town too.

As we've noted, scum had a day chat. They'd have been likely to have at least one person on each leading wagon. But is too much WIFOM to bank on.

In any case, how did we get to this end? What caused this disaster?

food and I were the only other people to ever vote for kingoftheBalkis.

The only other wagons that was every in contention was fishyEden and Flum: fishy made it as high as 4 votes (never first place) with an hour to go; Flum was tied for first with 30 minutes to go with Ham and damo. Fish made a key vote getting the Flum wagon going and never left.

The Flum wagon was constructed:

Flav (town) 1st vote.
Sweet (...) 2nd vote. (then Flav left for Ham...then came back)
(then sweet left for damo and came back)
Demon joined
Fishy\Eden pushed it to contention NOTE WELL: This was fishy's last post. Despite saying would flip to damo if a tie. Where fishy go?!
Hamilton pushed it to first

Bunny and worcej then pushed Hamilton ahead

Chaqa\Yoyo pushed damo up to tie for 2nd.

Hamilton amazingly hurt his wagon to switch to Flav.

Then Demon left too.

Flav left.

sweet left near the very end for DIP a wagon not in contention. Then again for Hamilton.


This wagon looks to have some bussing.

Sweet and FishyEden look bad.

Fishy for saying he'd switch to vote damo to break a tie but never seemed to check in.

Sweet for his weird comments about "not wanting the wagon to die" when it was a wagon of 2, and then totally ignored the Flavius wagon as an option at the end. "Dip is my favorite option of the 3" despite Flav being the third place wagon.



Conclusion: Fish and sweet look bad. As Sparta taught us, we only catch scum with bussing Day 1...someone was bussing Flum.


Up next, day 2! Exciting!!!

Any questions?

[BunnyGo]

Thank you for joining me for this study session. First, we'll examine the happenings, motivations, and lessons from Day 1.

We'll start at the end:

Hamilton Brian (9) Fluminator Ezio Foxcastle BunnyGo worcej Vecna sweetandcool DiplomacyandWarfare damo666
damo666 (6) Squigs44 Dousing Chaqa\YOYO foodcoats FlaviusAetius Jamiet99uk
FlaviusAetius (3) JustAGuyNamedWill aarodactyl DemonRHK
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) Hamilton Brian Kakarroto
kingofthepirates\BALKI (1) kingofthepirates\BALKI
Vecna (1) TheMadMonarch
BunnyGo (1) ghug*
ghug (1) Bonatogether
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Col7by
Fluminator (1) lfischl\EDEN


Every wagon with more than 1 voter was town.

Almost every voter on these wagons is known to be town too.

As we've noted, scum had a day chat. They'd have been likely to have at least one person on each leading wagon. But is too much WIFOM to bank on.

In any case, how did we get to this end? What caused this disaster?

food and I were the only other people to ever vote for kingoftheBalkis.

The only other wagons that was every in contention was fishyEden and Flum: fishy made it as high as 4 votes (never first place) with an hour to go; Flum was tied for first with 30 minutes to go with Ham and damo. Fish made a key vote getting the Flum wagon going and never left.

The Flum wagon was constructed:

Flav (town) 1st vote.
Sweet (...) 2nd vote. (then Flav left for Ham...then came back)
(then sweet left for damo and came back)
Demon joined
Fishy\Eden pushed it to contention NOTE WELL: This was fishy's last post. Despite saying would flip to damo if a tie. Where fishy go?!
Hamilton pushed it to first

Bunny and worcej then pushed Hamilton ahead

Chaqa\Yoyo pushed damo up to tie for 2nd.

Hamilton amazingly hurt his wagon to switch to Flav.

Then Demon left too.

Flav left.

sweet left near the very end for DIP a wagon not in contention. Then again for Hamilton.


This wagon looks to have some bussing.

Sweet and FishyEden look bad.

Fishy for saying he'd switch to vote damo to break a tie but never seemed to check in.

Sweet for his weird comments about "not wanting the wagon to die" when it was a wagon of 2, and then totally ignored the Flavius wagon as an option at the end. "Dip is my favorite option of the 3" despite Flav being the third place wagon.



Conclusion: Fish and sweet look bad. As Sparta taught us, we only catch scum with bussing Day 1...someone was bussing Flum.


Up next, day 2! Exciting!!!

Any questions?

One other follow up to Day 1:

food's progression was odd, as was sweet.

Sweet verbally pushed kingoftheBalki's...but never voted them.

food agreed with sweet, and DID vote kingoftheBalkis, but didn't come back when I joined.

Sweet also called Flav a coward for not staying on the Flum wagon. He was definitely looking like the "bussing sweet" we've seen before.

Fish and sweet also did a lot of verbal bussing of Flum that doesn't show up on the voting. Fish kept assuring us he'd be on until EOD, then wasn't.

aaro strongly defends Flum.

food tries to get sweet and Vecna to speedwagon worcej...note this well.

Vecna also verbally defends Flum.

I think fishy looks like the busser for now.

##vote Pres

[sweetandcool]

Thank you for joining me for this study session. First, we'll examine the happenings, motivations, and lessons from Day 1.

We'll start at the end:

Hamilton Brian (9) Fluminator Ezio Foxcastle BunnyGo worcej Vecna sweetandcool DiplomacyandWarfare damo666
damo666 (6) Squigs44 Dousing Chaqa\YOYO foodcoats FlaviusAetius Jamiet99uk
FlaviusAetius (3) JustAGuyNamedWill aarodactyl DemonRHK
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) Hamilton Brian Kakarroto
kingofthepirates\BALKI (1) kingofthepirates\BALKI
Vecna (1) TheMadMonarch
BunnyGo (1) ghug*
ghug (1) Bonatogether
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Col7by
Fluminator (1) lfischl\EDEN


Every wagon with more than 1 voter was town.

Almost every voter on these wagons is known to be town too.

As we've noted, scum had a day chat. They'd have been likely to have at least one person on each leading wagon. But is too much WIFOM to bank on.

In any case, how did we get to this end? What caused this disaster?

food and I were the only other people to ever vote for kingoftheBalkis.

The only other wagons that was every in contention was fishyEden and Flum: fishy made it as high as 4 votes (never first place) with an hour to go; Flum was tied for first with 30 minutes to go with Ham and damo. Fish made a key vote getting the Flum wagon going and never left.

The Flum wagon was constructed:

Flav (town) 1st vote.
Sweet (...) 2nd vote. (then Flav left for Ham...then came back)
(then sweet left for damo and came back)
Demon joined
Fishy\Eden pushed it to contention NOTE WELL: This was fishy's last post. Despite saying would flip to damo if a tie. Where fishy go?!
Hamilton pushed it to first

Bunny and worcej then pushed Hamilton ahead

Chaqa\Yoyo pushed damo up to tie for 2nd.

Hamilton amazingly hurt his wagon to switch to Flav.

Then Demon left too.

Flav left.

sweet left near the very end for DIP a wagon not in contention. Then again for Hamilton.


This wagon looks to have some bussing.

Sweet and FishyEden look bad.

Fishy for saying he'd switch to vote damo to break a tie but never seemed to check in.

Sweet for his weird comments about "not wanting the wagon to die" when it was a wagon of 2, and then totally ignored the Flavius wagon as an option at the end. "Dip is my favorite option of the 3" despite Flav being the third place wagon.



Conclusion: Fish and sweet look bad. As Sparta taught us, we only catch scum with bussing Day 1...someone was bussing Flum.


Up next, day 2! Exciting!!!

Any questions?

Flavius was a townread D1. Why would I vote him???

I only wanted Flume D1, briefly left for damo because I was a bit triggered by his behavior. Then immediately regretted it because I remembered I thought he was likely PR and if only one person was on the Flum wagon it wasn't going to grow.

Of course I didn't want the Flum wagon to die.

[BunnyGo]

Day 2...

Strap in folks. This was a CRAZY day.

Balki Bartokomous (13)
Squigs44 DiplomacyandWarfare sweetandcool Col7by FlaviusAetius ghug aarodactyl Vecna Fluminator Ezio Foxcastle Bonatogether lfischl
DiplomacyandWarfare (6)
DemonRHK* worcej Jamiet99uk Yoyoyozo foodcoats BunnyGo
ghug (2)
Dousing JustAGuyNamedWill
damo666 (1)
TheMadMonarch
No‑Kill (1)
Balki Bartokomous


Well, this tells NONE of the interesting story.

Let's back up to earlier in the day when damo got damo'd!

Damo died with 6:27 to go in the day.

The status at the time:


damo (6) (no particular order) TheMadMonarch lfishl/Eden Jamie Fox food Col7by

ghug (3) Dousing Ezio Flavius

Flav (2) aaro Bona

lfish/Eden (2) Flum Squigs

Balki (2) D&W sweet

The last move had been sweet to Balki.


The damo wagon mostly moved the FishyEden.

Sweet then proceeds to jump around from Balki to several known towns, only going back to Balki when the wagon is back down to 1. This exactly mimics his voting day 1 with scum Flum wagon.

Amusingly sweet's move to Balki came right before the duel was announced.

After the duel his only posts are saying how D&W will fail, and interacting with Flum to say lfisch was the better choice. And this was a mistake but should be rewarded. And that Fox should bus his teammate.

##vote sweet. Maybe sweet's double bussing again.

[BunnyGo]

Thank you for joining me for this study session. First, we'll examine the happenings, motivations, and lessons from Day 1.

We'll start at the end:

Hamilton Brian (9) Fluminator Ezio Foxcastle BunnyGo worcej Vecna sweetandcool DiplomacyandWarfare damo666
damo666 (6) Squigs44 Dousing Chaqa\YOYO foodcoats FlaviusAetius Jamiet99uk
FlaviusAetius (3) JustAGuyNamedWill aarodactyl DemonRHK
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) Hamilton Brian Kakarroto
kingofthepirates\BALKI (1) kingofthepirates\BALKI
Vecna (1) TheMadMonarch
BunnyGo (1) ghug*
ghug (1) Bonatogether
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Col7by
Fluminator (1) lfischl\EDEN


Every wagon with more than 1 voter was town.

Almost every voter on these wagons is known to be town too.

As we've noted, scum had a day chat. They'd have been likely to have at least one person on each leading wagon. But is too much WIFOM to bank on.

In any case, how did we get to this end? What caused this disaster?

food and I were the only other people to ever vote for kingoftheBalkis.

The only other wagons that was every in contention was fishyEden and Flum: fishy made it as high as 4 votes (never first place) with an hour to go; Flum was tied for first with 30 minutes to go with Ham and damo. Fish made a key vote getting the Flum wagon going and never left.

The Flum wagon was constructed:

Flav (town) 1st vote.
Sweet (...) 2nd vote. (then Flav left for Ham...then came back)
(then sweet left for damo and came back)
Demon joined
Fishy\Eden pushed it to contention NOTE WELL: This was fishy's last post. Despite saying would flip to damo if a tie. Where fishy go?!
Hamilton pushed it to first

Bunny and worcej then pushed Hamilton ahead

Chaqa\Yoyo pushed damo up to tie for 2nd.

Hamilton amazingly hurt his wagon to switch to Flav.

Then Demon left too.

Flav left.

sweet left near the very end for DIP a wagon not in contention. Then again for Hamilton.


This wagon looks to have some bussing.

Sweet and FishyEden look bad.

Fishy for saying he'd switch to vote damo to break a tie but never seemed to check in.

Sweet for his weird comments about "not wanting the wagon to die" when it was a wagon of 2, and then totally ignored the Flavius wagon as an option at the end. "Dip is my favorite option of the 3" despite Flav being the third place wagon.



Conclusion: Fish and sweet look bad. As Sparta taught us, we only catch scum with bussing Day 1...someone was bussing Flum.


Up next, day 2! Exciting!!!

Any questions?

Flavius was a townread D1. Why would I vote him???

I only wanted Flume D1, briefly left for damo because I was a bit triggered by his behavior. Then immediately regretted it because I remembered I thought he was likely PR and if only one person was on the Flum wagon it wasn't going to grow.

Of course I didn't want the Flum wagon to die.

"widely townread day 1" you didn't like the Ham and damo wagons...why ignore the third choice? Why phrase the 4th highest wagon as "best choice of the top 3"?

[BunnyGo]

food's day 2 ISO looks really bad.

He's caught up on what's going on with the duel at the end having not posted in over 4 hours, almost 5.

He jokes about being scum.

He spends the whole day until then either voting a vanity Ezio wagon or damo.

[BunnyGo]

Ok, who would like to "yes, and" any of this analysis?

[BunnyGo]

Ok, who would like to "yes, and" any of this analysis?

I'm going to take a short break now that it's midnight to get a snack, and crochet a little.

[Ezio]

food's day 2 ISO looks really bad.

He's caught up on what's going on with the duel at the end having not posted in over 4 hours, almost 5.

He jokes about being scum.

He spends the whole day until then either voting a vanity Ezio wagon or damo.

I agree with this.

[aarodactyl]

##vote aaro for being fake and unable to come up with the independent logical trains of thought i associate with him

I legitimately have way busier than expected recently. I’m essentially a manager at work now and it’s way harder to slack off when people are asking you questions about work you told them to do. And Tuesdays are softball day this time of year so I just got home.

[sweetandcool]

Thank you for joining me for this study session. First, we'll examine the happenings, motivations, and lessons from Day 1.

We'll start at the end:

Hamilton Brian (9) Fluminator Ezio Foxcastle BunnyGo worcej Vecna sweetandcool DiplomacyandWarfare damo666
damo666 (6) Squigs44 Dousing Chaqa\YOYO foodcoats FlaviusAetius Jamiet99uk
FlaviusAetius (3) JustAGuyNamedWill aarodactyl DemonRHK
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) Hamilton Brian Kakarroto
kingofthepirates\BALKI (1) kingofthepirates\BALKI
Vecna (1) TheMadMonarch
BunnyGo (1) ghug*
ghug (1) Bonatogether
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Col7by
Fluminator (1) lfischl\EDEN


Every wagon with more than 1 voter was town.

Almost every voter on these wagons is known to be town too.

As we've noted, scum had a day chat. They'd have been likely to have at least one person on each leading wagon. But is too much WIFOM to bank on.

In any case, how did we get to this end? What caused this disaster?

food and I were the only other people to ever vote for kingoftheBalkis.

The only other wagons that was every in contention was fishyEden and Flum: fishy made it as high as 4 votes (never first place) with an hour to go; Flum was tied for first with 30 minutes to go with Ham and damo. Fish made a key vote getting the Flum wagon going and never left.

The Flum wagon was constructed:

Flav (town) 1st vote.
Sweet (...) 2nd vote. (then Flav left for Ham...then came back)
(then sweet left for damo and came back)
Demon joined
Fishy\Eden pushed it to contention NOTE WELL: This was fishy's last post. Despite saying would flip to damo if a tie. Where fishy go?!
Hamilton pushed it to first

Bunny and worcej then pushed Hamilton ahead

Chaqa\Yoyo pushed damo up to tie for 2nd.

Hamilton amazingly hurt his wagon to switch to Flav.

Then Demon left too.

Flav left.

sweet left near the very end for DIP a wagon not in contention. Then again for Hamilton.


This wagon looks to have some bussing.

Sweet and FishyEden look bad.

Fishy for saying he'd switch to vote damo to break a tie but never seemed to check in.

Sweet for his weird comments about "not wanting the wagon to die" when it was a wagon of 2, and then totally ignored the Flavius wagon as an option at the end. "Dip is my favorite option of the 3" despite Flav being the third place wagon.



Conclusion: Fish and sweet look bad. As Sparta taught us, we only catch scum with bussing Day 1...someone was bussing Flum.


Up next, day 2! Exciting!!!

Any questions?

Flavius was a townread D1. Why would I vote him???

I only wanted Flume D1, briefly left for damo because I was a bit triggered by his behavior. Then immediately regretted it because I remembered I thought he was likely PR and if only one person was on the Flum wagon it wasn't going to grow.

Of course I didn't want the Flum wagon to die.

"widely townread day 1" you didn't like the Ham and damo wagons...why ignore the third choice? Why phrase the 4th highest wagon as "best choice of the top 3"?

Jeeze I like how you keep choosing to misinterpret me in the worst way possible. SWEETANDCOOL townread Flavius. HE WAS A TOWN READ OF SWEETANDCOOL'S

I have no idea whether he was "widely townread" D1.

[brainbomb]

Steve: Im like balls deep in Baldurs Gate 2. Long live the Harpers

Mia: Edwin wasnt a Harper he was a red wizard of thay — you realize that right?

Steve: im out here getting us new harpers

Check out my party:
Strahd
Raistlin
Flaming Fuck Marcus

Mia: stop. Dude, this is all wrong



Yoyoyozo (2) Yoyoyozo President Eden
Vecna (2) JustAGuyNamedWill foodcoats
worcej (1) Foxcastle
Dousing (1) Ezio
aarodactyl (1) Bonatogether
sweetandcool (1) BunnyGo

No one is scheduled to die
About 16 hours remain

[sweetandcool]

Day 2...

Strap in folks. This was a CRAZY day.

Balki Bartokomous (13)
Squigs44 DiplomacyandWarfare sweetandcool Col7by FlaviusAetius ghug aarodactyl Vecna Fluminator Ezio Foxcastle Bonatogether lfischl
DiplomacyandWarfare (6)
DemonRHK* worcej Jamiet99uk Yoyoyozo foodcoats BunnyGo
ghug (2)
Dousing JustAGuyNamedWill
damo666 (1)
TheMadMonarch
No‑Kill (1)
Balki Bartokomous


Well, this tells NONE of the interesting story.

Let's back up to earlier in the day when damo got damo'd!

Damo died with 6:27 to go in the day.

The status at the time:


damo (6) (no particular order) TheMadMonarch lfishl/Eden Jamie Fox food Col7by

ghug (3) Dousing Ezio Flavius

Flav (2) aaro Bona

lfish/Eden (2) Flum Squigs

Balki (2) D&W sweet

The last move had been sweet to Balki.


The damo wagon mostly moved the FishyEden.

Sweet then proceeds to jump around from Balki to several known towns, only going back to Balki when the wagon is back down to 1. This exactly mimics his voting day 1 with scum Flum wagon.

Amusingly sweet's move to Balki came right before the duel was announced.

After the duel his only posts are saying how D&W will fail, and interacting with Flum to say lfisch was the better choice. And this was a mistake but should be rewarded. And that Fox should bus his teammate.

##vote sweet. Maybe sweet's double bussing again.

Some of that stuff sounds like I could be signalling teammates.

But remember the magic word: DAYCHAT

[sweetandcool]

Thank you for joining me for this study session. First, we'll examine the happenings, motivations, and lessons from Day 1.

We'll start at the end:

Hamilton Brian (9) Fluminator Ezio Foxcastle BunnyGo worcej Vecna sweetandcool DiplomacyandWarfare damo666
damo666 (6) Squigs44 Dousing Chaqa\YOYO foodcoats FlaviusAetius Jamiet99uk
FlaviusAetius (3) JustAGuyNamedWill aarodactyl DemonRHK
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) Hamilton Brian Kakarroto
kingofthepirates\BALKI (1) kingofthepirates\BALKI
Vecna (1) TheMadMonarch
BunnyGo (1) ghug*
ghug (1) Bonatogether
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Col7by
Fluminator (1) lfischl\EDEN


Every wagon with more than 1 voter was town.

Almost every voter on these wagons is known to be town too.

As we've noted, scum had a day chat. They'd have been likely to have at least one person on each leading wagon. But is too much WIFOM to bank on.

In any case, how did we get to this end? What caused this disaster?

food and I were the only other people to ever vote for kingoftheBalkis.

The only other wagons that was every in contention was fishyEden and Flum: fishy made it as high as 4 votes (never first place) with an hour to go; Flum was tied for first with 30 minutes to go with Ham and damo. Fish made a key vote getting the Flum wagon going and never left.

The Flum wagon was constructed:

Flav (town) 1st vote.
Sweet (...) 2nd vote. (then Flav left for Ham...then came back)
(then sweet left for damo and came back)
Demon joined
Fishy\Eden pushed it to contention NOTE WELL: This was fishy's last post. Despite saying would flip to damo if a tie. Where fishy go?!
Hamilton pushed it to first

Bunny and worcej then pushed Hamilton ahead

Chaqa\Yoyo pushed damo up to tie for 2nd.

Hamilton amazingly hurt his wagon to switch to Flav.

Then Demon left too.

Flav left.

sweet left near the very end for DIP a wagon not in contention. Then again for Hamilton.


This wagon looks to have some bussing.

Sweet and FishyEden look bad.

Fishy for saying he'd switch to vote damo to break a tie but never seemed to check in.

Sweet for his weird comments about "not wanting the wagon to die" when it was a wagon of 2, and then totally ignored the Flavius wagon as an option at the end. "Dip is my favorite option of the 3" despite Flav being the third place wagon.



Conclusion: Fish and sweet look bad. As Sparta taught us, we only catch scum with bussing Day 1...someone was bussing Flum.


Up next, day 2! Exciting!!!

Any questions?

Flavius was a townread D1. Why would I vote him???

I only wanted Flume D1, briefly left for damo because I was a bit triggered by his behavior. Then immediately regretted it because I remembered I thought he was likely PR and if only one person was on the Flum wagon it wasn't going to grow.

Of course I didn't want the Flum wagon to die.

"widely townread day 1" you didn't like the Ham and damo wagons...why ignore the third choice? Why phrase the 4th highest wagon as "best choice of the top 3"?

I had one scumread D1, Flum, who I pushed hard for. At 19 minutes it was the main counter wagon.

I pushed hard but the wagon crumbled. At twelve minutes Flum is officially off the table and my choices are: damo who I PR read, Ham who was probably Town and someone out of principle I do not D1, Flav who I also Townread, and Dip who was the ascent and I actually had some small scumread on (which during the night after thinking about it was obvious Town).

So I vote Dip briefly, but then panic and vote Ham to save PR damo because it seemed it had to be Ham or damo. Admittedly, this was panic and I should have tried to stay on Dip longer.

I absolutely would never have considered Flav.

[sweetandcool]

food's day 2 ISO looks really bad.

He's caught up on what's going on with the duel at the end having not posted in over 4 hours, almost 5.

He jokes about being scum.

He spends the whole day until then either voting a vanity Ezio wagon or damo.

This is why I scumread him essentially.

[sweetandcool]

I'll just start with this ##VOTE Vecna

Tomorrow will be another busy day, so other than being swayed by some arguments I will probably only vote Vecna or yoyoyo.

##VOTE Vecna

[Ezio]

Ok y'all that are voting Vecna: WTF?

[Bonatogether]

##vote aaro for being fake and unable to come up with the independent logical trains of thought i associate with him

I legitimately have way busier than expected recently. I’m essentially a manager at work now and it’s way harder to slack off when people are asking you questions about work you told them to do. And Tuesdays are softball day this time of year so I just got home.

so sad

[President Eden]

##vote bonatogether