M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[foodcoats]

Who townreads JustWill, and why?

I'm not sure anyone particularly townreads him.

What is your read of Just, sweet? It’s not clear if you are saying here you think he is scum or if you think he is town but he is generally scumread.

[foodcoats]

##vote aaro

Vecna, before this vote on aaro, you spent perhaps a dozen votes claiming Flum may have signalled sweet to tadpole him. For such a theory to be true, you have to believe Flum is scum.

Why exactly did you spend all that effort talking about a Flum scum move only to land on aaro? What pushed you to vote aaro about whom you have comparatively nothing to say?

[BunnyGo]

##VOTE FLUM

Why?

[foodcoats]

GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY



##VOTE Food

Wait, what?

Read it again

Yoyo, when you made this reply, did you believe sweet had a guilty scan on me?

[foodcoats]

##VOTE Food

MM, it seems you made this vote “live” as you reviewed the thread in response to sweet’s “GUILTY” post. Is that correct?

Now that sweet has specified he did not have a scan, just a read, what is your read on me and why?

[foodcoats]

I’m going to wait to cast a vote until later because there’s a lot of finger posting right now. My top votes right in order
Aaro
Yoyo
Bunny
Food
Sweet

Tell me your thoughts on Eden, Ezio, Dousing, and/or Demon.

Eden I think did the thing on grug which I don’t know what it means
Dousing I honestly have no clue felt for town but people make good points
Demon too quiet I felt same of demon and damo could be scum at first but they’ve been gone for too long
Ezio I’ve gotten more town as time has gone on now

I think this is the first post by Col7by that fluidly struck me as town.

[BunnyGo]

food, Fox, sweet, and Flum are TERRIBLE votes.

Only reason to vote any of them is if you think they were tadpoled.

cringe take, disregarded

Ignoring tadpole (and for now please assume this is always the case since I will get sick of prefacing every comment with this), I think Bunny is Town.

So why this totally backwards take?

food and Fox are widely scumread and based on yesterday it seems like at least one ought to be Mafia. food is either Mafia or not a (useful?) PR since he didn't claim and nearly died.

Flum is potentially lockscum depending on which team has BM. And Bunny and Vecna have been "tinfoiling" over the potential of sweetandcool being tadpole froggy boy.

Explanation, Bunny?

My understanding of all the cases is some combination of:

I didn’t like his energy

If I voted him it’d clear something up for me

In my view if a combination of hypotheticals then he could be scum

I think all of those reasons are stupid. And either east scum push or mistaken town. Might they get someone that way? Sure. Is it a good reason for them to be a leading wagon? Fuck no.

[BunnyGo]

cringe take, disregarded

Ignoring tadpole (and for now please assume this is always the case since I will get sick of prefacing every comment with this), I think Bunny is Town.

So why this totally backwards take?

food and Fox are widely scumread and based on yesterday it seems like at least one ought to be Mafia. food is either Mafia or not a (useful?) PR since he didn't claim and nearly died.

Flum is potentially lockscum depending on which team has BM. And Bunny and Vecna have been "tinfoiling" over the potential of sweetandcool being tadpole froggy boy.

Explanation, Bunny?

this post is dogshit

Yup

[BunnyGo]

Ignoring tadpole (and for now please assume this is always the case since I will get sick of prefacing every comment with this), I think Bunny is Town.

So why this totally backwards take?

food and Fox are widely scumread and based on yesterday it seems like at least one ought to be Mafia. food is either Mafia or not a (useful?) PR since he didn't claim and nearly died.

Flum is potentially lockscum depending on which team has BM. And Bunny and Vecna have been "tinfoiling" over the potential of sweetandcool being tadpole froggy boy.

Explanation, Bunny?

this post is dogshit

Eh? I mean maybe if I ISO Bunny these questions will be answered. Otherwise, I think it's fine.

No.

You tried using peer pressure and “it’s obviously good” implications to railroad these wagons.

This is scummy

[Vecna]

##vote aaro

Vecna, before this vote on aaro, you spent perhaps a dozen votes claiming Flum may have signalled sweet to tadpole him. For such a theory to be true, you have to believe Flum is scum.

Why exactly did you spend all that effort talking about a Flum scum move only to land on aaro? What pushed you to vote aaro about whom you have comparatively nothing to say?

because im not certain enough.

Its sort of the self-awareness that my brain often looks for these slightly tinfoil-y connections/patterns that might fit and coukd be possible, but where the plausability is questionable.

Its just that deja vu feeling that often when i see patterns of connected people, the scum team is much more often just the unconnected scummy individuals.

tldr; just because it could have happened does not mean it actually happened.

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny could you explain why aaro is Mafia? Like do you feel convicted? Can you make a case?

Mostly that his posts focus nearly entirely on mechs and out of game stuff. If this AI? I dunno. But it’s not towny solvy aaro.

[BunnyGo]

Yeah, I assume Food is just doing brainbomb's Mafia QT for him.

The Knowledge power is pretty much useless unless a PR dies (like a detective) and you want to clearly communicate their scans.

Otherwise, useless. So at best Food was fishing for a tadpole, since that power is vaguely useful for Town, and a bit better for Mafia if we trust the PR. Of course, we do not trust Food, soooooo.

You wanna claim Food? Or divest?

It’s useful if the janitor dies.

[BunnyGo]

Wait, what?

Read it again

Yoyo, when you made this reply, did you believe sweet had a guilty scan on me?

[foodcoats]

Eden, Flum, and sweetandcool:

Can you please explain your scumreads of Fox? I am not following it, and you all placed naked votes. Could each of you sum up why you are voting for Fox?

[BunnyGo]

Gone for a bit.

Don’t want to vote the Fs.

I’m actually slightly pondering that some people have conflated them and are getting self reinforcing thoughts.

[Yoyoyozo]

Read it again

Yoyo, when you made this reply, did you believe sweet had a guilty scan on me?

I don’t believe a word that comes out of sweet’s mouth after N2

[Vecna]

ill elaborate on the above by answering your earlier questions about the hb vs damo vote d1.

-HB started the game with ~6 posts that I felt were really bad and scummy.
-Damo made note of it as well. I agreed with the assertion that those posts were scummy (i dont think i actually wrotr about it but kept the thoughts to myself).
-The way damo went about it (yelling for endvotes) felt very theatrical and fake to me.
-instead of just taking it at face value, my brain concocted the tinfoily theory that damo was potentially bussing HB because he realized how bad the early HB posts were. I believe i commented about that.
-HB did the thing where under pressure he suddenly started producing wallposts of reads. Hes done this as scum in his early games as well.

So at eod when for some reason people were looking to me to choose the tiebreaker, my reasoning was more or less;
-damo is only scummy if the scenario of a bus is correct. HB is also scummy seperately of the bussing scenario. The pattern was iffy, the correct play felt like looking at the individual play. HB was far more scummy to me individually than damo.
-My main hesitation were that the arguments that people made that HBs defense didnt look overly scummy had some merit.

[Vecna]

Ive done some focussed reading of foodcoats night posting, and the day1 feelibg I had of his alignment still holds true for me.

The big wallpost read as a very detailed thought pattern, and my feeling was that it all seemed really genuine.

The only thing that looks a bit odd is that he doesnt seem worked up at all that he nearly got flashwagoned to death. But i do get the feeling hes actually trying to solve.

Id hardveto any foodcoats wagons today.

[Yoyoyozo]

##CALL GM

Can you explain Arcane Trickster? What is a random flip?

Struggling to see how this is useful as either alignment, except possibly if Mafia wants to kill a teammate and hide it (of course, it's not your job to point out strategy).

https://youtu.be/5W-J6iPyZmM?si=qKtffhLZvX3EJGL2

[dargorygel]

GM note and VC

Steve groggily wakes up. Time to get ready for work. But he starts up the old BG 3 while his coffee cools.

Hmmm

THAT’S an idea. Those annoying gnomes… maybe they can help open that door.

I’ll play just ONE more minute.

Work can wait.

Foxcastle (3) President Eden, Fluminator, sweetandcool
Foodcoats (3) Ezio, Bonatogether, TheMadMonarch
Dousing (2) worcej, BunnyGo
Sweetandcool (1) Yoyoyozo
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Jamiet99uk
Fluminator (1) Foxcastle
Aarodactyl (1) Vecna

NOT YET VOTING, and THEREFORE NOT COMPLIANT WITH MINUMUM REQUIREMENTS

Aarodactyl, Col7by, DemonRHK, Dousing, foodcoats, JustAGuyNamedWill

Around 9 hours left

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