M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[sweetandcool]

##CALL GM

Can you explain Arcane Trickster? What is a random flip?

Struggling to see how this is useful as either alignment, except possibly if Mafia wants to kill a teammate and hide it (of course, it's not your job to point out strategy).

[sweetandcool]

Yeah, I assume Food is just doing brainbomb's Mafia QT for him.

The Knowledge power is pretty much useless unless a PR dies (like a detective) and you want to clearly communicate their scans.

Otherwise, useless. So at best Food was fishing for a tadpole, since that power is vaguely useful for Town, and a bit better for Mafia if we trust the PR. Of course, we do not trust Food, soooooo.

You wanna claim Food? Or divest?

[sweetandcool]

Yeah, I assume Food is just doing brainbomb's Mafia QT for him.

The Knowledge power is pretty much useless unless a PR dies (like a detective) and you want to clearly communicate their scans.

Otherwise, useless. So at best Food was fishing for a tadpole, since that power is vaguely useful for Town, and a bit better for Mafia if we trust the PR. Of course, we do not trust Food, soooooo.

You wanna claim Food? Or divest?

Oh weird, he only did it N2. I thought he did it N1 as well.

[Vecna]

You literally posted:

GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY

as soon as the night ended.

How did you EXPECT that to be interpreted???

@vecna and worcej: scum theatre or legit?

I'm guessing both sweet and jamie and food remember brain posting "GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY" recently.

Jamie being extra about being called mild? Honestly legit imho.

Vecna calling Jamie mild was more interesting to me because I think Jamie’s reacting exactly how I would expect him to when he sees a potential fake PR claim.

he only started reacting after i pointed it out lol

[Vecna]

you and flum have been having cosy interactions all game.

if you were tadpoled, that msg from flum at start of day3 would definately influe ce your decision.

and if scumflum ever flips, that msg would definately result in you dying directly after.

im sure it looks like an innocent joke to the unobservant eye, but the implications can be quite far reaching

Oh that's quite interesting. I did not pick up on that at all. I didn't realize Flum and I have been cozy this game. Basically I tried to DK him D1. Since then I've kinda waffled on him and haven't felt very strongly. I thought we have practically not interacted since D1? Other than his joke.

i did an admittedly brief read of your interactions/ reads with him and id summarize it thusly:
-scumread d1 and votes.
-turned to a townread day2. no votes.
-back to a scumread during halfway day3. votes while it was a small wagon.
-no reference to flum or the serious flumwagon eod3. no votes on the wagon. instead voting for foodcoats and fox who earlier in d3 or n2 you had swapped to a townread (you migjtve flipflopped on that later but i dont think i found any progression there.)

id say i find this at least interesting. do you feel i interpretted any of this unfairly?

[Jamiet99uk]

Who townreads JustWill, and why?

[Vecna]

hey jamie.

how do you feel about fox and food?

[sweetandcool]

you and flum have been having cosy interactions all game.

if you were tadpoled, that msg from flum at start of day3 would definately influe ce your decision.

and if scumflum ever flips, that msg would definately result in you dying directly after.

im sure it looks like an innocent joke to the unobservant eye, but the implications can be quite far reaching

Oh that's quite interesting. I did not pick up on that at all. I didn't realize Flum and I have been cozy this game. Basically I tried to DK him D1. Since then I've kinda waffled on him and haven't felt very strongly. I thought we have practically not interacted since D1? Other than his joke.

i did an admittedly brief read of your interactions/ reads with him and id summarize it thusly:
-scumread d1 and votes.
-turned to a townread day2. no votes.
-back to a scumread during halfway day3. votes while it was a small wagon.
-no reference to flum or the serious flumwagon eod3. no votes on the wagon. instead voting for foodcoats and fox who earlier in d3 or n2 you had swapped to a townread (you migjtve flipflopped on that later but i dont think i found any progression there.)

id say i find this at least interesting. do you feel i interpretted any of this unfairly?

Probably sounds right.

I've been waffling on Fox too.

Did I ever Town Flum? Internally after D1 it has gone from scumread to nulleead to useful for VCA if flipped. Now I think it's a bad flip since BM could condemn him.

Someone pointed out the possibility that he is BM, which is possible I suppose.

[Vecna]

I think I just internally convinced myself that ezio wouldve also been an excellent tadpole candidate.

I dont wanna do this thing where i hunt for potential targets, but i do find it interesting that I no longer fully agree with all his takes anymore. him being gungho for the 2 easy targets is also a bit meh to me (but maybe totally understandable).

[sweetandcool]

Who townreads JustWill, and why?

I'm not sure anyone particularly townreads him.

[Vecna]

Oh that's quite interesting. I did not pick up on that at all. I didn't realize Flum and I have been cozy this game. Basically I tried to DK him D1. Since then I've kinda waffled on him and haven't felt very strongly. I thought we have practically not interacted since D1? Other than his joke.

i did an admittedly brief read of your interactions/ reads with him and id summarize it thusly:
-scumread d1 and votes.
-turned to a townread day2. no votes.
-back to a scumread during halfway day3. votes while it was a small wagon.
-no reference to flum or the serious flumwagon eod3. no votes on the wagon. instead voting for foodcoats and fox who earlier in d3 or n2 you had swapped to a townread (you migjtve flipflopped on that later but i dont think i found any progression there.)

id say i find this at least interesting. do you feel i interpretted any of this unfairly?

Probably sounds right.

I've been waffling on Fox too.

Did I ever Town Flum? Internally after D1 it has gone from scumread to nulleead to useful for VCA if flipped. Now I think it's a bad flip since BM could condemn him.

Someone pointed out the possibility that he is BM, which is possible I suppose.

i think my timeline is roughly accurate, but its based on drunk memories so maybe it is not

[Vecna]

I find it annoying that ive started moderately townreading fox and food because it makes this game too difficult. I also dont know if my reasons are good enough.

[Vecna]

I guess Aaro is pretty scummy by virtue of him not having made any towny posts all game.

[Vecna]

why didnt you vote flum eod3 sweet? there was a big wagon there.

im still so salty about that flav flip.

[Vecna]

##vote aaro

[brainbomb]

##CALL GM

Can you explain Arcane Trickster? What is a random flip?

Struggling to see how this is useful as either alignment, except possibly if Mafia wants to kill a teammate and hide it (of course, it's not your job to point out strategy).

This is a night action that once activated would alter the result of the next flip to be the opposite of what it would be normally.

As for the benefit or use for either alignment, I would not want to give someone strategies or ideas for how to use this role, and let them decide for themself if applicable.

[Jamiet99uk]

hey jamie.

how do you feel about fox and food?

I was happy with the Foodcoats wagon yesterday until it evaporated. I was voting for it. So, that should be clear.

Less sure about Fox. Not one of the main people in my scum pool right now.

[foodcoats]

Do you want the short or still short but slightly longer version

Sure life story time.

Ok so

M83 was my first, was essentially a VT and got to F4 and was MKed in lylo

M84 i was mafia and i bussed sweet and then got vigged by bunny D2

M1027 I was (sort of) a cop and i caught 3 scum and it was fun

M85 I was D1ed as VT

M86 i was mafia and bussed my godfather and other partner D1 and D2 and won in a F4 9-1

M1028 was a regular game in which Dip and food snowed us all

M87 was a 3P game and i was a cop and it was broken but so funny

M88 i was godfather and got D1ed

M1028 I GM’d, it was Kakarroto you snowed you.

[foodcoats]

Yeah, I assume Food is just doing brainbomb's Mafia QT for him.

The Knowledge power is pretty much useless unless a PR dies (like a detective) and you want to clearly communicate their scans.

Otherwise, useless. So at best Food was fishing for a tadpole, since that power is vaguely useful for Town, and a bit better for Mafia if we trust the PR. Of course, we do not trust Food, soooooo.

You wanna claim Food? Or divest?

Why would I have been fishing for a tadpole?

[foodcoats]

I'm fine with today being between Fox and Food.

Ezio, what is your current read of Fluminator and why?