M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

There is a distinct lack of pfps

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Oh my god 263 pages and we’ve only killed like 8 of us

[President Eden]

Would love to see the full analysis that includes the other votes, so that we understand why you think it’s the best fit.

No, you wouldn't.

post more

about Fox? there's a VCA on the duel in my d3 ISO. i'm not sure why he thought talking to me like some jackass summer intern at the AG's office was going to get him anywhere tonight, so i'm probably just gonna ignore him the rest of the way

more generally? i'm gonna dig into sweet's suggestions tomorrow. maybe before EON maybe not. i'm pretty sure it won't matter for me to do it tonight; one of two things is almost certainly going to occur:

1. the mafia offs me before i get going, while i'm a great medic dodge kill. everything i write gets ignored for the rest of the game
2. the mafia recognizes my position is weak and leaves me alone. i can still post d4 (to be drowned out in the sea of silly bs fights but w/e)

[sweetandcool]

I'll have to look through Eden's duel analysis. But I don't understand his conclusion about pre-duel Dip voters.

Regardless of alignment, I would expect them to keep their vote on Dip.

I don't see how they look good for staying on Dip.

I think that your opinion of the dip voters is tarnished by the results of the flip. Live at the moment, it felt far more real that he was scum just trying to survive the duel.

I disagree. And I hard defended him from beginning until end of D2. He was clearly not scum before the duel started. I tried running up so many counter wagons, with Balki being the latest right when Dip decided to start the duel.

I just don't understand in the slightest how any veteran player could have scumread him.

[Vecna]

Yoyoyozo (4) DemonRHK Dousing sweetandcool worcej
JustAGuyNamedWill (3) Vecna FlaviusAetius Jamiet99uk
Fluminator (3) Foxcastle aarodactyl foodcoats
BunnyGo (2) Col7by Fluminator
Col7by (2) BunnyGo JustAGuyNamedWill
Bonatogether (1) Squigs44
foodcoats (1) Ezio
ghug (1) TheMadMonarch
TheMadMonarch (1) Yoyoyozo
Squigs44 (1) Bonatogether
Foxcastle (1) President Eden

Yoyo is scheduled to die
3 hours remain

quite incredible that with 3h to go and these wagons looking like this, we went to the outcome we had instead

[Vecna]

Yoyoyozo (4) DemonRHK Dousing sweetandcool worcej
JustAGuyNamedWill (3) Vecna FlaviusAetius Jamiet99uk
Fluminator (3) Foxcastle aarodactyl foodcoats
BunnyGo (2) Col7by Fluminator
Col7by (2) BunnyGo JustAGuyNamedWill
Bonatogether (1) Squigs44
foodcoats (1) Ezio
ghug (1) TheMadMonarch
TheMadMonarch (1) Yoyoyozo
Squigs44 (1) Bonatogether
Foxcastle (1) President Eden

Yoyo is scheduled to die
3 hours remain

##VOTE Colbybeef

wtf was this vote sweet? why make that? you had never even spoken about colby and your favorite wagons were leading

[Vecna]

I don’t have too much time but I just caught up

I’m assuming ghug was town and that mafia shot ghug (ik y’all thought of this before but I came up with this tonight independently while commuting)

If it turns out that whoever shot ghug was town I’m still believing that ghug was town. The best way for me to believe ghug was mafia would be if whoever janitored Ghug claimed he was mafia

what an odd post

[Vecna]

Where is Fox in your POE - in, out, who cares, etc?

I slotted him in my "paranoid" category, where I think his game could very well fit either town or scum, but I think there is value in keeping him around at least a little longer.

So in my PoE, but certainly not a top voting option

Did you notice that Fox has been lying about his speadsheet all game? Thats not something normal Fox does no way

note to self; look for jamiet stancepoint on this.

[Vecna]

##Vote Fox, I didn't appreciate how averse he was to voting Balki at the end there. Let's make him the runway wagon.

I still think his Dip wagon was terrible too.

wait, wasnt flum strongly against a fox wagon only like a page ago?

[Vecna]

##Vote Fox, I didn't appreciate how averse he was to voting Balki at the end there. Let's make him the runway wagon.

I still think his Dip wagon was terrible too.

wait, wasnt flum strongly against a fox wagon only like a page ago?

nope bad memory

[Vecna]

did you not read the posts where i said i believe the pr claim? i can change my damn reads

You know whats so weird you think Fox is not mafia, and obviously you dont think yourself is mafia, but you havent put forward any actual wagons today besides Squigs...which you just voted against him in RETALIATION...

can you cite a post where i said fox was not mafia? any post, any time, any where. no shot

i have said clearly and repeatedly that i think you, vecna, and squigs are scum. i have been with my family for the whole day, so unfortunately i have not been able to post as much as i would have liked (which i said last night). this is just straight up lying

wait, bona does full team predictions now?

[Vecna]

Ok im back and dont have time to read the rest of the pages

What important things happened

Prove your towniness by voting Fox.

why were you advocating this? after you made that post earlier stating you did not actually think fox/balki was theater after all and you light townread fox?

[Vecna]

Im not trash, I think I have made a lot of good points.
I just like to be active and really get deep into the game thats why Im active, I think its fun. Im not wolfing, Im pushing people who I think are mafia...because thats what you do.
Never not once did I ever say to stop investigating or talking about someone, Ive ALWAYS been pro discussion, in fact I think I sparked a lot of it

YOU'VE SPENT DAYS ARGUING WE CAN'T LOOK AT FOX BECAUSE HE HASN'T POSTED A SPREADSHEET

Again, why would scum do something that likely to garner exactly this response?

fox actually being the only voice of reason while hes the counter wagon is rather interesting

[Vecna]

Vecna sitting on will all day kinda sucked

ive repeatedly stated im in rome this week. youre lucky youre getting any of my time at all.

[Vecna]

I'm so tired. Where are our solvers?

Am I really expected to carry the team?

im sorry but this reads really fake.

you stated you have great trust in my townreads. i told you on multiple occasions that flav was obvtown. you decided to ignore it and put that wagon in to play.

I feel there is a reasonable chance you were tadpoled or fooling me from the beginning and were directing attention away from certain wagons there.

I didnt wanna say anything and just observe you. I felt your progression was really good on fox when you came back on your earlier claims about scum theatre, stating he was a light townread now. I could really feel that too. but then you went and vote him out of nowhere during eod.

[sweetandcool]

I'm so tired. Where are our solvers?

Am I really expected to carry the team?

im sorry but this reads really fake.

you stated you have great trust in my townreads. i told you on multiple occasions that flav was obvtown. you decided to ignore it and put that wagon in to play.

I feel there is a reasonable chance you were tadpoled or fooling me from the beginning and were directing attention away from certain wagons there.

I didnt wanna say anything and just observe you. I felt your progression was really good on fox when you came back on your earlier claims about scum theatre, stating he was a light townread now. I could really feel that too. but then you went and vote him out of nowhere during eod.

I wouldn't bother saying something fake unless I was trying to fool Mafiateam.

I didn't want a runaway wagon, I wanted to keep as many wagons competitive that I liked.

I decided to trust Bunny on Colby.

I haven't really jived with your reads since D1, so.....

[Yoyoyozo]

for those wondering, yes, it is another squiggs hit piece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_PPdjD6mg

[Vecna]

I'm so tired. Where are our solvers?

Am I really expected to carry the team?

im sorry but this reads really fake.

you stated you have great trust in my townreads. i told you on multiple occasions that flav was obvtown. you decided to ignore it and put that wagon in to play.

I feel there is a reasonable chance you were tadpoled or fooling me from the beginning and were directing attention away from certain wagons there.

I didnt wanna say anything and just observe you. I felt your progression was really good on fox when you came back on your earlier claims about scum theatre, stating he was a light townread now. I could really feel that too. but then you went and vote him out of nowhere during eod.

I wouldn't bother saying something fake unless I was trying to fool Mafiateam.

I didn't want a runaway wagon, I wanted to keep as many wagons competitive that I liked.

I decided to trust Bunny on Colby.

I haven't really jived with your reads since D1, so.....

youre making fakereads on people whose allignment youre unsure of to "fool the mafiateam"?

You wouldnt even know who youre fooling. this defense makes very little sense to me.

[TheMadMonarch]

Home from work. Dinner eaten, dessert in my belly. Ready for bed.

Time to read through the day's mafia.

42 pages...

People...



Lmk if anything important has happened. I'll try to keep one eye on the current thread.

[Vecna]

my current worldview is something along the lines of: kakkarot was right about kotp, flum and jamiet being scum.

Scum killed him and tried to remove the focus off of those reads by forcing the flip on D&W to discredit his remaining reads. Whether they also did ghug remains to be seen, but it fits in the objective of obfuscation.

I think the BM was scum, to set up an overwhelming gamestate to induce the parasite to be accepted.

I also have a growing suspicion that they mightve recruited S&C, and that he was actively trying to defend flum at last eod.

Im not certain of this by any stretch of the imagination, but if I was the scumteam id recruit either him or dousing. Two widely townread players where noone will truely bat an eye if they dont die for a while. The ghug kill also fits in that narrative to further obfuscate whether a tadpole was accepted or not.