M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Bonatogether]

Bona you must atone for your voting sins

you can only repent for something you believe was wrong

[Bonatogether]

This guy gets it

It looked like Eden got on, saw their role, used it, got off for a while after it happened

This whole theory relies on the fact that lfischl wouldn't have use it before subbing. And I think that's incredibly unlikely. Also subbing and immediately shooting ghug would be very funny but isn't Eden's style.

eden would post a meme about it in scumread and then depends on who's scum

[Bonatogether]

It looked like Eden got on, saw their role, used it, got off for a while after it happened

This whole theory relies on the fact that lfischl wouldn't have use it before subbing. And I think that's incredibly unlikely. Also subbing and immediately shooting ghug would be very funny but isn't Eden's style.

eden would post a meme about it in scumread and then depends on who's scum

scumthread

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[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Bona you must atone for your voting sins

you can only repent for something you believe was wrong

Do you believe voting town was wrong

[Yoyoyozo]

Alright I think it's safe to say the vig is mafia aligned: They didn't shoot ezio or sweet. I'll work on figuring out if the person who shot ghug was mafia or not

[Squigs44]

Vecna sitting on will all day kinda sucked

[sweetandcool]

Alright I think it's safe to say the vig is mafia aligned: They didn't shoot ezio or sweet. I'll work on figuring out if the person who shot ghug was mafia or not

We'll see tomorrow. I would expect the vig to shoot someone who has scumclaimed.

[Yoyoyozo]

Alright I think it's safe to say the vig is mafia aligned: They didn't shoot ezio or sweet. I'll work on figuring out if the person who shot ghug was mafia or not

MadMonarch*

[Squigs44]

Just realized Flavius never voted for self-preservation and just ended on Flum

I will never understand Flavius

[Col7by]

Just realized Flavius never voted for self-preservation and just ended on Flum

I will never understand Flavius

They did as their first vote change think they went food and said self preservation then went flum

[BunnyGo]

Sorry I missed the last 5 minutes. Dog chased my kid down the block and I had to calm him down.

Would not have switched to food if that was my option.

[President Eden]

Thought exercise... if you were a town Battle Master, how do you think you'd use your power?

Mafia Battle Master seems obvious - try to get a 2nd miskill on a day where it looks likely you'll have TvT(vTvT?) wagons. In this scenario you would obviously activate it as close to the cutoff point as possible.

As town I think these ideas make sense:
1. Just fire it off day 1 for more info while the town can spare miskills. In this world, you are timing-agnostic; you just want two kills to happen and don't need the added info.
2. Wait for a "runaway day" on a lurker or outed scum so that something else happens. In this world, you'd activate as close to cutoff as possible.

[sweetandcool]

Sorry I missed the last 5 minutes. Dog chased my kid down the block and I had to calm him down.

Would not have switched to food if that was my option.

Poor kid ):

[President Eden]

To add some more nuance to the mafia strat - there's an argument for holding your Battle Master shot as long as possible to surprise the town with an unexpectedly early victory. That runs the risk of the Battle Master getting caught before using the power. If the Battle Master got hit with a runaway speedwagon at EOD, you might lose it altogether.

So it's not immediately clear that you would pull the trigger on it ASAP, but it seems to me the lowest-risk move is to cash it in when you have a reliable two town kill day.

[sweetandcool]

To add some more nuance to the mafia strat - there's an argument for holding your Battle Master shot as long as possible to surprise the town with an unexpectedly early victory. That runs the risk of the Battle Master getting caught before using the power. If the Battle Master got hit with a runaway speedwagon at EOD, you might lose it altogether.

So it's not immediately clear that you would pull the trigger on it ASAP, but it seems to me the lowest-risk move is to cash it in when you have a reliable two town kill day.

Which easily would have been D1 unless Flum is Mafia.

[sweetandcool]

To add some more nuance to the mafia strat - there's an argument for holding your Battle Master shot as long as possible to surprise the town with an unexpectedly early victory. That runs the risk of the Battle Master getting caught before using the power. If the Battle Master got hit with a runaway speedwagon at EOD, you might lose it altogether.

So it's not immediately clear that you would pull the trigger on it ASAP, but it seems to me the lowest-risk move is to cash it in when you have a reliable two town kill day.

Which easily would have been D1 unless Flum is Mafia.

Jeeze, it is incredibly hard to solve not knowing which alignment did what. I hate this.

[sweetandcool]

Okay, Flum should not be a wagon.

If we find out Mafia has Battle Master then Flum is almost certainly scum.

So it's a waste to flip him when he can be caught in this way.

If we find out BM was Town then we can assess Flum from there.

[President Eden]

To add some more nuance to the mafia strat - there's an argument for holding your Battle Master shot as long as possible to surprise the town with an unexpectedly early victory. That runs the risk of the Battle Master getting caught before using the power. If the Battle Master got hit with a runaway speedwagon at EOD, you might lose it altogether.

So it's not immediately clear that you would pull the trigger on it ASAP, but it seems to me the lowest-risk move is to cash it in when you have a reliable two town kill day.

Which easily would have been D1 unless Flum is Mafia.

Jeeze, it is incredibly hard to solve not knowing which alignment did what. I hate this.

Depending on the mafia's risk profile, Flum could still be mafia in a world where the mafia Battle Master used their power D1. As long as a mafia player doesn't finish exactly second, it's okay if one teammate is at risk amidst a sea of townies.

Something else to consider is that D2 looked like D&W/lfischl during the window where the Battle Master would be considering using their power. lfischl would have been a good flip for town there IMO. I think that points to the Battle Master being town under the second town strategy I suggested earlier (snipe a lurker). Even with me knowing lfischl was town, I still don't think that fits a reasonable mafia Battle Master profile.

[Foxcastle]

To add some more nuance to the mafia strat - there's an argument for holding your Battle Master shot as long as possible to surprise the town with an unexpectedly early victory. That runs the risk of the Battle Master getting caught before using the power. If the Battle Master got hit with a runaway speedwagon at EOD, you might lose it altogether.

So it's not immediately clear that you would pull the trigger on it ASAP, but it seems to me the lowest-risk move is to cash it in when you have a reliable two town kill day.

Which easily would have been D1 unless Flum is Mafia.

Obviously I’m a fan of this theory, but if scum held their BM on D1, the vig is a good incentive to use it.

[sweetandcool]

To add some more nuance to the mafia strat - there's an argument for holding your Battle Master shot as long as possible to surprise the town with an unexpectedly early victory. That runs the risk of the Battle Master getting caught before using the power. If the Battle Master got hit with a runaway speedwagon at EOD, you might lose it altogether.

So it's not immediately clear that you would pull the trigger on it ASAP, but it seems to me the lowest-risk move is to cash it in when you have a reliable two town kill day.

Which easily would have been D1 unless Flum is Mafia.

Obviously I’m a fan of this theory, but if scum held their BM on D1, the vig is a good incentive to use it.

Sorry, I don't quite understand what you are saying. What about the vig?