M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[dargorygel]

fluminator (4) Foxcastle, sweetandcool, aarodactyl, ghug
Yoyoyozo (2) DemonRHK, Dousing
JustAGuyNamedWill (2) Vecna, FlaviusAetius
BunnyGo (2) Col7by, Fluminator
foodcoats (2) Ezio, Jamiet99uk
ghug (2) worcej, TheMadMonarch
bonatogether (2) Squigs44
TheMadMonarch (1) Yoyoyozo
Squigs44 (1) bonatogether
Dousing (1) foodcoats

Unvote: BunnyGo

fulminator is presently going to be flummoxed.

Not voting and in danger of ModKills: JustAGuyNamedWill, lfischl.

Day Ends in Seven Hours

[Yoyoyozo]

Vig, you still have a few hours to flip MadMonarch and clear your name

[BunnyGo]

Fell back asleep before finishing my catch-up. Gone for a bit but here’s my current thoughts:

Aaro - unhelpful in a way that keeps showing up at key moments and talking about meta. Maybe our first example of scum!aaro. Claims to understand why I asked about tadpole.

Bona - inconsistent but making points. Town lean. Refused to answer tadpole. Called it stupid.

Bunny - what a jerk. No tadpole.

Yoyo - Why? Somehow I have a stronger opinion of chaqa than his replacement. Unsure about tadpole.

Col7by - this is a rough webdip game to be his first. And somehow he’s sorta keeping up. But I can’t tell if he’s playing dumb like he did in his first scum game at work or not. Scum lean. No tadpole.

Demon - seems enthusiastic and wrong a bunch. Town lean. Unsure about tadpole.

Dousing - very self centered. Focused entirely on defending others perception of himself. Null. Unsure about tadpole.

Ezio - ghug says he likes to fake dumbslips. He’s certainly had some. Otherwise ineffective. Null. Unsure about tadpole.


Flavius - I like the tone of his posts. Town lean. No tadpole.

Flum - loud. Brash. Stubborn. Where’s the nirvana? Not his best game but town lean. No tadpole.

Food - like his posts. Like his tone. Town. No tadpole.


Fox - loud. Argumentative. Balki fighter. Waffling balki voter. Null. No tadpole.

Ghug - saw him trying to direct the vig again. He’s gone back and forth in my mind. Early seemed scummy. Was better N1. Now looking scum lean again. His inconsistencies seem forced rather than natural. No tadpole.

Jamie - weird early outrage. Weird damo troll. Weird response to damo flip. Null. No tadpole.

Just - not here. Where is? Oh there with a HUGE defense of Dip! Town lean. Unsure about tadpole.

Fish - a wild one shows up at key moment and knew the score. Had been vacant and weird otherwise. Scum. Unsure about tadpole.

Squigs - has been trying to lead. Fairly solid. Town. No tadpole.


Sweet - has been saccharine sweet. Head up ghug and Vecna. Has been useful and confused and somewhat present and trying. Town. No tadpole.

Mad - absent. Null. Unsure tadpole.


Vecna - not useful. Off putting. Tone seems wrong and can’t honestly say I remember something they’ve done. Scum lean. Unsure tadpole.

Worcej - absent. Incorrect. Angry about being called out. Is it frustrated being caught or frustration at being town and accused? I think town lean. Unsure tadpole.

[BunnyGo]

##vote lfi

[foodcoats]

Flav is playing with a completely different framework than the rest of us but not necessarily a scumslip TMI kind of framework, just a series of weird assumptions, like MadMonarch is going to sub, the mafia team has a designated lurker, etc.

It makes it really hard to follow Flavs logic because he has so many assumptions that the rest of us aren't making.

Well dont you think thats a GOOD thing? Someone coming in with a different perspective and whatnot can totally make people think of new ideas that they didnt think of before

I tend to think this is a good thing. If we always go based on what is most likely, we’ll always be surprised by reality because that not the way statistics work, especially if we’re building cases using logic from other people’s logic.

There’s also the fact, as Squigs pointed out, that playing differently isn’t necessarily scummy.

I tend to think Flav is town although the craziness could be a scum act. I don’t know that I’ve ever played with Flav and have no comparison point.

[brainbomb]

Lfischl has been replaced by President Eden

President Eden has replaced lfischl

[foodcoats]

Fell back asleep before finishing my catch-up. Gone for a bit but here’s my current thoughts:

Aaro - unhelpful in a way that keeps showing up at key moments and talking about meta. Maybe our first example of scum!aaro. Claims to understand why I asked about tadpole.

Bona - inconsistent but making points. Town lean. Refused to answer tadpole. Called it stupid.

Bunny - what a jerk. No tadpole.

Yoyo - Why? Somehow I have a stronger opinion of chaqa than his replacement. Unsure about tadpole.

Col7by - this is a rough webdip game to be his first. And somehow he’s sorta keeping up. But I can’t tell if he’s playing dumb like he did in his first scum game at work or not. Scum lean. No tadpole.

Demon - seems enthusiastic and wrong a bunch. Town lean. Unsure about tadpole.

Dousing - very self centered. Focused entirely on defending others perception of himself. Null. Unsure about tadpole.

Ezio - ghug says he likes to fake dumbslips. He’s certainly had some. Otherwise ineffective. Null. Unsure about tadpole.


Flavius - I like the tone of his posts. Town lean. No tadpole.

Flum - loud. Brash. Stubborn. Where’s the nirvana? Not his best game but town lean. No tadpole.

Food - like his posts. Like his tone. Town. No tadpole.


Fox - loud. Argumentative. Balki fighter. Waffling balki voter. Null. No tadpole.

Ghug - saw him trying to direct the vig again. He’s gone back and forth in my mind. Early seemed scummy. Was better N1. Now looking scum lean again. His inconsistencies seem forced rather than natural. No tadpole.

Jamie - weird early outrage. Weird damo troll. Weird response to damo flip. Null. No tadpole.

Just - not here. Where is? Oh there with a HUGE defense of Dip! Town lean. Unsure about tadpole.

Fish - a wild one shows up at key moment and knew the score. Had been vacant and weird otherwise. Scum. Unsure about tadpole.

Squigs - has been trying to lead. Fairly solid. Town. No tadpole.


Sweet - has been saccharine sweet. Head up ghug and Vecna. Has been useful and confused and somewhat present and trying. Town. No tadpole.

Mad - absent. Null. Unsure tadpole.


Vecna - not useful. Off putting. Tone seems wrong and can’t honestly say I remember something they’ve done. Scum lean. Unsure tadpole.

Worcej - absent. Incorrect. Angry about being called out. Is it frustrated being caught or frustration at being town and accused? I think town lean. Unsure tadpole.

Why do you think Will’s big Dip defense is necessarily townie? When you phrase it as you have here I actually think Will is more scummy.

[foodcoats]

Lfischl has been replaced by President Eden

President Eden has replaced lfischl

The man

The legend

The fallout reference

[BunnyGo]

Lfischl has been replaced by President Eden

President Eden has replaced lfischl

Welcome Eden!

##vote Pres

AttackTheAlternatives!!

[Fluminator]

Ok Ghug is scum. He's been on the edge all game and this clinches it.

Sweet and Fix probably town with massive egos who I hope get discredited soon.

Aaron is maybe scum because he said I was townish right behind voting me next post.

I have to help someone move tomorrow morning but I should be around before deadline still.

Why is ghug scum?

Mostly meta. I'm wagoned every game and scum Ghug usually hops on once it gains traction while town ghug leaves me alone until later have if we're still alive.

Aaron vote is also bad considering he's town reading me??

I'll be around more after I help someone move into lunchish.
You can say my Bunny case of him obfuscating ignorance is bad, but I feel a little chainsawed so I think I'm on the right track, even if it was for the wrong reasons

[BunnyGo]

Fell back asleep before finishing my catch-up. Gone for a bit but here’s my current thoughts:

Aaro - unhelpful in a way that keeps showing up at key moments and talking about meta. Maybe our first example of scum!aaro. Claims to understand why I asked about tadpole.

Bona - inconsistent but making points. Town lean. Refused to answer tadpole. Called it stupid.

Bunny - what a jerk. No tadpole.

Yoyo - Why? Somehow I have a stronger opinion of chaqa than his replacement. Unsure about tadpole.

Col7by - this is a rough webdip game to be his first. And somehow he’s sorta keeping up. But I can’t tell if he’s playing dumb like he did in his first scum game at work or not. Scum lean. No tadpole.

Demon - seems enthusiastic and wrong a bunch. Town lean. Unsure about tadpole.

Dousing - very self centered. Focused entirely on defending others perception of himself. Null. Unsure about tadpole.

Ezio - ghug says he likes to fake dumbslips. He’s certainly had some. Otherwise ineffective. Null. Unsure about tadpole.


Flavius - I like the tone of his posts. Town lean. No tadpole.

Flum - loud. Brash. Stubborn. Where’s the nirvana? Not his best game but town lean. No tadpole.

Food - like his posts. Like his tone. Town. No tadpole.


Fox - loud. Argumentative. Balki fighter. Waffling balki voter. Null. No tadpole.

Ghug - saw him trying to direct the vig again. He’s gone back and forth in my mind. Early seemed scummy. Was better N1. Now looking scum lean again. His inconsistencies seem forced rather than natural. No tadpole.

Jamie - weird early outrage. Weird damo troll. Weird response to damo flip. Null. No tadpole.

Just - not here. Where is? Oh there with a HUGE defense of Dip! Town lean. Unsure about tadpole.

Fish - a wild one shows up at key moment and knew the score. Had been vacant and weird otherwise. Scum. Unsure about tadpole.

Squigs - has been trying to lead. Fairly solid. Town. No tadpole.


Sweet - has been saccharine sweet. Head up ghug and Vecna. Has been useful and confused and somewhat present and trying. Town. No tadpole.

Mad - absent. Null. Unsure tadpole.


Vecna - not useful. Off putting. Tone seems wrong and can’t honestly say I remember something they’ve done. Scum lean. Unsure tadpole.

Worcej - absent. Incorrect. Angry about being called out. Is it frustrated being caught or frustration at being town and accused? I think town lean. Unsure tadpole.

Why do you think Will’s big Dip defense is necessarily townie? When you phrase it as you have here I actually think Will is more scummy.

Well. My summary is a bit off. He’s “here” but he’s not doing anything to register. But his defense struck me as someone with opinions who was backing them as opposed to opportunistic.

Not a strong opinion by me, but my current Just thoughts.

[foodcoats]

This is a good take

Worcej, damo, and Ezio scum team? Examine it for me Will!

Just because I have all of them as scumreads doesn’t mean that they all have to be scum together. If I scumread darg n brain that doesnt mean darg n brain are on a team

Will. Will. Will. Will.

WILLLL NYYEEE THE MAFIA GUY

Will how you feelin about Ezio and worcej now that damo do be dead

[BunnyGo]

Ok Ghug is scum. He's been on the edge all game and this clinches it.

Sweet and Fix probably town with massive egos who I hope get discredited soon.

Aaron is maybe scum because he said I was townish right behind voting me next post.

I have to help someone move tomorrow morning but I should be around before deadline still.

Why is ghug scum?

Mostly meta. I'm wagoned every game and scum Ghug usually hops on once it gains traction while town ghug leaves me alone until later have if we're still alive.

Aaron vote is also bad considering he's town reading me??

I'll be around more after I help someone move into lunchish.
You can say my Bunny case of him obfuscating ignorance is bad, but I feel a little chainsawed so I think I'm on the right track, even if it was for the wrong reasons

I’d help Aaro get back to work. Would consider ghug too. But I think Eden is the best bet today.

[foodcoats]

Ok Ghug is scum. He's been on the edge all game and this clinches it.

Sweet and Fix probably town with massive egos who I hope get discredited soon.

Aaron is maybe scum because he said I was townish right behind voting me next post.

I have to help someone move tomorrow morning but I should be around before deadline still.

Why is ghug scum?

Mostly meta. I'm wagoned every game and scum Ghug usually hops on once it gains traction while town ghug leaves me alone until later have if we're still alive.

Aaron vote is also bad considering he's town reading me??

I'll be around more after I help someone move into lunchish.
You can say my Bunny case of him obfuscating ignorance is bad, but I feel a little chainsawed so I think I'm on the right track, even if it was for the wrong reasons

Moving into lunch? Is that the follow up to Weird Al’s Living In The Fridge?

Agreed Aaro looks rite trv bad right now.

[Yoyoyozo]

Checks notes… drive… conviction to solve… wait…

Dude are we scum together??? I didn’t get the disco link!!!

What

Ezio says I have no drive or conviction to solve and I’m therefore scum. I am making the joke that he also has no drive or conviction to solve so we must both be scum.

Current events have given us all existential dread, anxiety, and depression

[aarodactyl]

Ok Ghug is scum. He's been on the edge all game and this clinches it.

Sweet and Fix probably town with massive egos who I hope get discredited soon.

Aaron is maybe scum because he said I was townish right behind voting me next post.

I have to help someone move tomorrow morning but I should be around before deadline still.

This is a fair thing to be a confused about. I was trying to say in my original post that bunny was townish which makes you scumish for thinking. Is townish behavior was scumish. But was half asleep at the time and I guess I flipped a word.

[foodcoats]

What

Ezio says I have no drive or conviction to solve and I’m therefore scum. I am making the joke that he also has no drive or conviction to solve so we must both be scum.

Current events have given us all existential dread, anxiety, and depression

People have always had these things. Our current world state is not special.

Discuss.

[Squigs44]

For how much of a hard on Jamie had for the damo wagon, I'm a bit surprised he took the flip so well. I would have expected town Jamie to spend at least 3 posts yelling at a dead damo blaming him for being such a bad townie and that he wasted all of our time

Solid take

Bunny do you think Jamie is scum?

Squigs do you think Jamie is scum?

Yes*

*see my most recent reads list, or any of the half dozen posts I've made on Jamie, or my voting record the past 2 days

[foodcoats]

Solid take

Bunny do you think Jamie is scum?

Squigs do you think Jamie is scum?

Yes*

*see my most recent reads list, or any of the half dozen posts I've made on Jamie, or my voting record the past 2 days

Very well, I disagree, but whatever.

I think we agree on Bona, don’t we? Would you make a bona wagon happen?

##VOTE Bona

[aarodactyl]

Forgot to add a vote to that. ##vote flum. Seems weirdly attached to bunny who is very town-ish this game

Aaro literally in your post IMMEDIATELY before this you say that Flum’s attachment to Bunny is town-indicative:

Anyways. From this read up:

-bunny has town vibes
-flum thinking bunny has scum vibes makes me think flum has town vibes
-Jamie’s shitposting is 54% funnier with the chaqa pfp
-flav has town vibes. I’ve settled on their posting being an anti-town town rather than scum
-I really enjoy bona’s comments. That just aesthetics though and I think him pushing on flav so much feels scummy
-this “spreadsheets full of takes” feels 2012 election to me. Also I enjoy a good Poe as much as anyone else but the process of actually doing it always feels pretty arbitrary and I doubt it works
-still stand by fox being town now that Balki flipped scum
-I think it’s funny that someone (I think jamiet but I could be misremembering and I can’t be bothered to check) is upset people didn’t consider the possibility of a doc save. I think it’s ironic considering no one (including them) has considered that scum just passed to mess with us and distract with mechanics. (This take is just a joke tbh)
-I’m on the fence on if the “top 2 die” role was scum or town. It seems there were a lot of arguments for both. I’m hoping it’s scum and we happen to flip them and we get to remove the uncertainty (or we flip enough scum pr to rule out that as an option).

Dafuq?

Aaro please also provide 3 top town reads and 2 top scum reads.

What I see in your iso is a lot of words but not many reads. Combined with you literally voting for a townread of yours… I feel like your reads are fake and you forgot and messed up here.

Aaro scum stock rising!

Like I just replied, I think flum hyperfocus-ing on bunny for the bot stuff and then the resulting tunnel feels scummy. I flopped one word in there by mistake.

Top town reads (stronger to weaker):
-fox
-flav
-bunny


Top scum read (also in order):
-flum
-bona