M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[TheMadMonarch]

Oh!

I also wanted to note that I thought it was funny when someone just made up that I was subbing out. Gave me a good little chuckle.

MM who do you think is town?

hmm... Good question!

aaro
bona
dousing
Jamie
squiggs
sweet
vecna
worcej


Its on the bigger side, but I'm not SUPER sure about any of these, I'm only working on the last 48hs

[foodcoats]

For how much of a hard on Jamie had for the damo wagon, I'm a bit surprised he took the flip so well. I would have expected town Jamie to spend at least 3 posts yelling at a dead damo blaming him for being such a bad townie and that he wasted all of our time

Solid take

Bunny do you think Jamie is scum?

Squigs do you think Jamie is scum?

[TheMadMonarch]

Speaking of last 48hrs.

Anything important happen before that?

I know damo got vigged. Do we know who by?

Then there was the Battle Master Duel. Crazy stuff.

Seems I really missed out

[TheMadMonarch]

Speaking of last 48hrs.

Anything important happen before that?

I know damo got vigged. Do we know who by?

Then there was the Battle Master Duel. Crazy stuff.

Seems I really missed out

[TheMadMonarch]

OOP! Double post!

never had that happen before.

[foodcoats]

Hi lfischl how are you?

not bad, trying to understand the play, I only voted D&W originally to break the tie between him and myself, and I think most likely both are town which sucks

Scum

Bunny can you detail 3 top towns and 2 top scum? I guess just 1 top scum since you scumread lfischl. I find it weird you are one of today’s top posters and you’ve said almost nothing. You’re a fluffy bunny!

[foodcoats]

Speaking of last 48hrs.

Anything important happen before that?

I know damo got vigged. Do we know who by?

Then there was the Battle Master Duel. Crazy stuff.

Seems I really missed out

No PRs have claimed.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet99uk just a scummy boy about the main thread

What is scummy about introducing an element of doubt about my previously claimed VT status, during the night?

That maybe you legit forgot you claimed VT.

Nope.

[TheMadMonarch]

People complain about my emoji use, and how it makes bot reading difficult. That's just making me do it more.

Don't be a coward and read the game for real. Join the "online" status club. Invisible is for losers.

This was my position until Bunny demonstrated that he was looking to see who was PMing the GM at night. Turn that status off.

coward

[TheMadMonarch]

##VOTE MadMonarch

Your rapid succession of posts seem prepared. How are you replying to posts that are hours apart in a few minutes, jumping back and forth in time, etc.

I hit the reply button then write and send when I'm caught up.

I was considering doing a play-by-play, but I saw that first post of Jamie's and decided I wanted to send a Wave emoji in response. This would imply I was paying attention, which I wouldn't be if I was still pages back catching up.

That's why I did it the way I did.

This is terrible behavior but Monarch does it consistently so it's not scummy. It's just shitty play.

You always make me smile ghug!

[Jamiet99uk]

Can you come up with a better argument now that it is D3, or are you the one who is lame?

He's not voting you anymore, birdface.

You need to do some brain exercises to keep that middle aged brain in shape too. Drop a dumbbell on your head maybe.

I'm writing this thing called a "PhD thesis" which gives me some brain activity.

I think Mafia also helps.

Gym nearly done, taking a breath.

175kg (386lbs) sumo deadlift x2, x2, new personal best.
Squats, bench, bicep curls, nearly done.

[foodcoats]

Sweet is confusing me, they seem like their throwing. Admittedly, they said they'd do as much in the signup thread. Either way it's kinda tainting their arguments in an undue negative light.

For example, I really like what they said about Bunny (http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=406327#p406327) but then they start voting for a dead Kak???

To use a terrible analogy: Sweet is kinda like the Kanye West of this game thread.

Who?

Dousing is currently my strongest town read. LOVE this guy.

Bunny is this still true?

What made you strong townread Dousing D2?

[foodcoats]

He's not voting you anymore, birdface.

You need to do some brain exercises to keep that middle aged brain in shape too. Drop a dumbbell on your head maybe.

I'm writing this thing called a "PhD thesis" which gives me some brain activity.

I think Mafia also helps.

Gym nearly done, taking a breath.

175kg (386lbs) sumo deadlift x2, x2, new personal best.
Squats, bench, bicep curls, nearly done.

I’m just taking the piss. (That’s what you guys say over there, right?)

[foodcoats]

Jamie do you have thoughts on Aaro, Dousing or Bunny?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie do you have thoughts on Aaro, Dousing or Bunny?

I don't scumread any of them, but I do have a few thoughts...

Most of my thoughts on Bunny are impacted by how silly I think Fluminator's case against him is. Fluminator's case is silly nit-picking about a tiny detail; I cannot see a scum motivation for Bunny to lid about reading the Bot in the way Flum alleges. This is causing me to inherently townlean Bunny, but deep down I know that Fluminator's poor logic is only a mark against Flum, not an actual town point for Bunny.

I was townreading Dousing D1 but he has dropped dramatically in effort level since then and I agree with whoever said he seems to be too focussed on defending himself. He needs to be in the scum PoE pool as I no longer townread him.

Aaro.... I'm not sure. I agreed with some of his takes earlier, but IIRC they were mostly to do with the mechs, not necessarily anything heavily AI.

I promise this is not hedging.

[Jamiet99uk]

*lie about reading the Bot...

[foodcoats]

My coffee is finished so I have to get to work, but I think I am leaving my reading feeling scummiest about Dousing.

I said before but to reiterate I no longer scumread Jamie.

I still scumread bona.

I still scumread Ezio. I want to hear Ezio’s case against bona and yoyo. Ezio has said very little this game but was quite forward that me, yoyo and bona are good wagons but he has said nothing except about me. I am guessing he is scum and one of bona or yoyo is scum, and since I think yoyo is town, I think Ezio and Bona are scum together.

Squigs and sweet still strong town.

On re read I think Bunny is town-lite.

MM looking better.

Aaro is looking weird. I want answers about his weird Flum vote though the rest of his iso looks okay.

Demon and Fox look townie. Ghug and Vecna town-lite - gotta be careful how I read these guys as they are crafty… I feel townier on ghug than vecna

[Jamiet99uk]

You need to do some brain exercises to keep that middle aged brain in shape too. Drop a dumbbell on your head maybe.

I'm writing this thing called a "PhD thesis" which gives me some brain activity.

I think Mafia also helps.

Gym nearly done, taking a breath.

175kg (386lbs) sumo deadlift x2, x2, new personal best.
Squats, bench, bicep curls, nearly done.

I’m just taking the piss. (That’s what you guys say over there, right?)

It is a common turn of phrase yes.

[TheMadMonarch]

Well my theory is that the mafia decided to put their team members into roles one of these roles was the "lurker" kotp doesnt count because he got replace dby Balki and balki was anything BUT a lurker

I have never seen a scumteam play this way.

There is day chat from day 1, they 100% did it this way, remember how everyone in the signup thread was like ohhh this is such a unique activity requirements? Guranteed mafia took that in stride and designated someone. Again as I explained to Balki who also thought I was crazy the mafia likely put people who were COMFORTABLE being in those roles. Someone who usually lurks? Put them in the designated mafia lurker role, no biggie, they'll blend. Someone who yaps a lot? Put them in the designated mafia yapper, no biggie they'll blend. Someone wo analyzes everything? No biggie, put them ind esignated mafia analyzer. Someone who skates by with ltitle to no actual input? No biggie put them there.

Thats how I'd do it
Lurker
Skater
Analyzer
Yapper

That's 4 so either you double up, or you have someone who can be more flexible. I said from Day 1 I had this thought but I didnt want to reveal it incase mafia caught on, and changed tactics. I started talking about this A LOT Day 2, so I think there's some benefit for osmeone to go back and check out those other roles, right now I think we can focus on the lurker since people wanted to go after a lurker anyways. I just think FISCHL is the WRONG lurker to go after, and I dont like that he's been the "go-to" lurker from day 1

Hate to agree with a known Mafioso, but this is insane.

People should do their own thing. As Mafia, your goal is to look like your town self, so for someone like fisch or me, that means not posting much. Other players have it different. There is no reason to do this. You may end up with a system that looks like this, but it won't be because you designed it this way.


Town points for Flav. No team would go for this, so its clear he's not in communication with the team.

Unless, he suggested this (no way, its insane), and the team said no. So now he's sharing it here for vindication!

[foodcoats]

I have never seen a scumteam play this way.

There is day chat from day 1, they 100% did it this way, remember how everyone in the signup thread was like ohhh this is such a unique activity requirements? Guranteed mafia took that in stride and designated someone. Again as I explained to Balki who also thought I was crazy the mafia likely put people who were COMFORTABLE being in those roles. Someone who usually lurks? Put them in the designated mafia lurker role, no biggie, they'll blend. Someone who yaps a lot? Put them in the designated mafia yapper, no biggie they'll blend. Someone wo analyzes everything? No biggie, put them ind esignated mafia analyzer. Someone who skates by with ltitle to no actual input? No biggie put them there.

Thats how I'd do it
Lurker
Skater
Analyzer
Yapper

That's 4 so either you double up, or you have someone who can be more flexible. I said from Day 1 I had this thought but I didnt want to reveal it incase mafia caught on, and changed tactics. I started talking about this A LOT Day 2, so I think there's some benefit for osmeone to go back and check out those other roles, right now I think we can focus on the lurker since people wanted to go after a lurker anyways. I just think FISCHL is the WRONG lurker to go after, and I dont like that he's been the "go-to" lurker from day 1

Hate to agree with a known Mafioso, but this is insane.

People should do their own thing. As Mafia, your goal is to look like your town self, so for someone like fisch or me, that means not posting much. Other players have it different. There is no reason to do this. You may end up with a system that looks like this, but it won't be because you designed it this way.


Town points for Flav. No team would go for this, so its clear he's not in communication with the team.

Unless, he suggested this (no way, its insane), and the team said no. So now he's sharing it here for vindication!

This is a smart take and I think giving Flav points is good. I’m not sure MM gets points though - could be a good way to fake towniness