M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE ghug

I've just got a gut feeling about him.

I don't have a ton else, due to not having read half the thread

Ghug is a credible counterwagon to foods.

[FlaviusAetius]

##vote bunny
I feel like a lot of people have him as a more scum read so want to throw the name in the pool also other reasons I posted prior

You've placed a lot of votes based on what other people believe. What is it that col7by believes?

Colby believes that Bunny is mafia for a lot of reasons that have to do with Bunny's reactions to Colby. I think there needs to be more; what are those other reasons poeple have posted that you agree with @colby

[Jamiet99uk]

Speaking of "town clears", if there was a tadpole, I think we should look towards people we trust (i.e. squiggs).

This probably ends up relying too much on meta, but one thing that has to be considered (by mafia and by town trying to figure it out) is whether someone would accept. I don't think Squiggs or Jamie would accept, for example.

Correct on me.

I enjoy playing as Mafia.

But I bork at the idea of changing teams halfway through.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE ghug

I've just got a gut feeling about him.

I don't have a ton else, due to not having read half the thread

##VOTE MadMonarch

Your rapid succession of posts seem prepared. How are you replying to posts that are hours apart in a few minutes, jumping back and forth in time, etc.

She literally just said she'd been reading since EoD2 and just not posting yet.

[Jamiet99uk]

Speaking of "town clears", if there was a tadpole, I think we should look towards people we trust (i.e. squiggs).

Wouldn't anyone generally trusted by town have more to gain by refusing the tadpole?

Not necessarily, because they could utilise that trust to remain hidden as Mafia.

[foodcoats]

dude he posted a big thing about how no possible read should justify an action until we see the damn spreadsheet, which apparently doesn't even exist.


this says 'sure, we can talk - but only after some indefinite point in time'.

He says he himself won't vote Fox until then. But like... what does scum Flav earn with this?

My point is that all I'm hearing from you is criticism of the play being anti-town, but nowhere do I hear why this benefits scum Flav OR why it can't be dumb town Flav

i suppose if you are a strict literalist, that could be the reading you get from what i said, but like i said before - why would town do this? town being stupid of course is possible, but is not an excuse. to spell it out for you, the question 'why would scum do this?' is easily answered with: it kicks up dust around someone people have questions about in a way that prolongs their survival, and if fox is scum (as you repeatedly proposed d2), then that directly is helping a scumbuddy.

Bona are you saying Flav and Fox are scum together?

[foodcoats]

##VOTE foosier coats, MD

I’m listening.

Are you, though?

Yeah?

[Jamiet99uk]

I will shortly be logging off for the night, and will not be back until probably just before EOD. I will almost certainly not have time to catch up before EOD, but I hope I will be around.

I strongly encourage people to look at Flum and ask if this is authentically town Flum or if this is a pretty good appearance created by scum Flum. I admit, the thing I am most excited about is pretty tinfoily, and I did semi-randomly pick Flum to see if there was a case. But I think I'm on to something. I don't think we're seeing the interesting, jovial, prone to shitposting Flum, I think he's restrained and not giving us the creative leaps that I recall from town Flum. I also think his push on Bunny is basically finding one significant inconsistency and picking, picking, picking at it until it becomes a miskill.

I'll ##vote flum for now

I will likely be changing this vote later (and then maybe switching back to flum)

I dislike this.

Voting, but pledging to change your vote later, significantly reduces the impact of your vote, because it's like you're not really on the wagon.

[foodcoats]

i suppose if you are a strict literalist, that could be the reading you get from what i said, but like i said before - why would town do this? town being stupid of course is possible, but is not an excuse. to spell it out for you, the question 'why would scum do this?' is easily answered with: it kicks up dust around someone people have questions about in a way that prolongs their survival, and if fox is scum (as you repeatedly proposed d2), then that directly is helping a scumbuddy.

So is your scumread of Flav dependant on Fox being scum, given that the scum reasons you listed were for prolonging or protecting Fox?

no. fox is a player with a large question mark, which town would benefit from having resolved, either through case for town or scum, or through flipping. flav is directly pushing against any attempt to resolve fox's alignment.

can i make it clearer? big letters, perhaps?

Bona is just describing what is happening and not actually making reads. I have big question marks about like 90% of the players lol. Anyway it feels like bona has trapped himself in a stupid argument with squigs that is going nowhere but he is trying to maintain the facade that it is because he is So Smart.

I feel even better about voting bona.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet99uk just a scummy boy about the main thread

What is scummy about introducing an element of doubt about my previously claimed VT status, during the night?

whats with these big brain ooo im gonna trick the mafia plays by people, we dont KNOW you are a townie so these things that you do(not just you jamie other people be doing it too) just make us think you are mafia...which is WHAT the mafia WANT

It is fairly standard night patter on this site, Flav. Always try to keep people guessing about you, just a little bit, at night.

Why does it make you think I am Mafia?

[Jamiet99uk]

I am caught up to Page 205 but now I need to go to the gym to defend my middle-aged body against the ravages of time.

Aiming for a 175kg sumo deadlift today.

Back later.

[foodcoats]

##VOTE foosier coats, MD

Why?

He's been lame.

Can you come up with a better argument now that it is D3, or are you the one who is lame?

[foodcoats]

ok that was a little toxic, apologies

I was just thinking what happened to fun carefree Bona <3

Do you think bona apologizing is a scum slip? Lol

[sweetandcool]

You’re off.

You're mom.

forced

I should hope not.

[foodcoats]

Someone I think you pointed out with the balki vote their awkward conversations and saying they would veto any attempt at a tie. I mentioned trying to tie it because I felt they were both town which I read wrong. The adamant about vetoing a tie with no further explanation seemed suspicious.

Hmm, refusing to allow a tie isn’t really scum indicative. Town needs daykills for the sake of information, even when we’re wrong.

But thinking that refusing to allow a tie is scum indicative is town indicative.

So you town read Colby?

[Jamiet99uk]

Why?

He's been lame.

Can you come up with a better argument now that it is D3, or are you the one who is lame?

He's not voting you anymore, birdface.

[foodcoats]

Ok Ghug is scum. He's been on the edge all game and this clinches it.

Sweet and Fix probably town with massive egos who I hope get discredited soon.

Aaron is maybe scum because he said I was townish right behind voting me next post.

I have to help someone move tomorrow morning but I should be around before deadline still.

Why is ghug scum?

[foodcoats]

##vote squiggs

This reminds me of when I was mafia and tried to get wagons on xorxes. Those were heady days.

[foodcoats]

I saw werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand
Walking through the streets of SoHo in the rain
He was looking for the place called Lee Ho Fooks
For to get a big dish of beef chow mein
Ah-hoo, werewolves of London
Ah-hoo
Ah-hoo, werewolves of London
Ah-hoo
You hear him howling around your kitchen door
You better not let him in
Little old lady got mutilated late last night
Werewolves of London again
Ah-hoo, werewolves of London
Ah-hoo
Ah-hoo, werewolves of London
Ah-hoo, huh
He's the hairy handed gent who ran amok in Kent
Lately he's been overheard in Mayfair
You better stay away from him, he'll rip your lungs out Jim
Huh, I'd like to meet his tailor
Ah-hoo, werewolves of London
Ah-hoo
Ah-hoo, werewolves of London
Ah-hoo
Well, I saw Lon Chaney walking with the Queen
Doin' the werewolves of London
I saw Lon Chaney Jr. walking with the Queen, uh
Doin' the werewolves of London
I saw a werewolf drinkin' a piña colada at Trader Vic's
His hair was perfect
Ah-hoo, werewolves of London
Hey draw blood
Ah-hoo, werewolves of London

Are you a polymorphed brainbomb?

[foodcoats]

I don't really want to help the mafia figure out who our PR is if it can be avoided.

I think it's entirely possible the Mafia could have done it. I also think it was pretty risky for them if they had people on the block, and letting the town flip two highly suspected people helps us solve the game faster. I think it's possible town could have done it too, so I don't really want anyone trying to solve based on the assumption that mafia did it.

The amount of mech talk is insane.

I want to say good on brain with this design though because the mech talk is literally useless in this design

Best thing you've said all game, but it's mech talk, so you're scum.

Ha!

You get a funny point.