M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

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Bunny confirmed he saw the Balki death in this location. He also said he didn't know damo or dip died. It is basically impossible to see this area and not see the damo/dip deaths listed right next to Balki's death below.


Which makes it pretty clear Bunny is trying to pretend to be more clueless than he actually is.

Jesus ducking Christ.

I was driving children around.

I was on my phone at a gymnastics studio before heading to get other child.

I looked at vote totals I looked at balkis flip. Why would I think to look at others? My eyes wouldn’t even go there.


But fine. You think I’m lying about that.

Why would scum!Bunny lie about that? Why commit to the bit with sweet that I had no idea damo was dead? And that I didn’t understand 3 powers had been used?

You just have to lower your eyes by 1 cm lol. It's also a natural inclination as scum to try to feign ignorance.

I do believe you were looking after your children though so that's good.

Hey man. I dunno if you are really thinking how perception and attention works. When you’re looking for a thing and not another, you won’t see it.

Bark up a different tree.

[BunnyGo]

I checked the Setup.

There is a PR called a Druid which can perform up to two Doc saves.

Very interesting that some people immediately assumed this did not happen.

2 attempts or two successful saves?

[foodcoats]

Druid 0-3
Circle of the Moon: Once per game you may summon a deceased person back into the game thread for an hour. That person may talk but not vote. They will not count toward parity.
Circle of the Land: You may save a person from dying at night, non consecutively.
Circle of the Spores: Twice per game you may force the result at the end of a day to be nullified, and no one dies. The Circle of the Moon Druid must take this action during the next phase after someone dies. That person then can talk for the rest of the phase.

Druid isn’t a role. Those are three different roles under the umbrella of “Druid” which has no mechanical purpose.

Semantics.

The point is that as we both noticed, there could have been a save.

Yet Vecna, and Sweet, immediately assumed it as fact that the Tadpole had been used, and this was the reason for the lack of a death overnight.

Do you think this indicates Vecna and sweet or mafia or were tadpoled?

[Jamiet99uk]

Fluminator, do you realise, if Bunny is scum, he would not need to look on the Bot to know Balki's alignment and role?

He would read the final Vote Count, see that Balki had been killed, and would not even need to read down the page to learn what Balki had flipped. He would already know that information because he would have learned it in the Mafia chat as soon as the game began.

You however appear to think it is true that he did scroll down to read about Balki's flip, but then a lie that he did not keep reading the rest of the page.

The way you are constructing your view of these little details does not seem quite right to me.

[foodcoats]

##VOTE Food

Every vote for food is a vote for a hungry child. You’re doing god’s work.

[Jamiet99uk]

I checked the Setup.

There is a PR called a Druid which can perform up to two Doc saves.

Very interesting that some people immediately assumed this did not happen.

2 attempts or two successful saves?

Actually I read it wrongly, it does not say "two".

Druid - Circle of the Land: You may save a person from dying at night, non consecutively.


It's just a regular Doc with a flavour name.

[BunnyGo]

##DESTROY

unless this is a claim, its probably more sensible to just have the receiver claim it.

Actually that’s a great idea.

Case 1) someone was saved or invincible last night. They should claim they were doc saved.

Case 2) someone was given the tadpole. They should claim it ASAP.

Case 3) everyone else: knows they were not targeted with either. Scum already knows it to.

We claim RIGHT NOW to force.

I had nothing happen to me last night. No tadpole. No attack.

[BunnyGo]

Please make you very next post (unless you’ve already done and I’m not caught up) a clear and affirmative claim of not being targeted last night (or a clear claim you were targeted)

[Fluminator]

Fluminator, do you realise, if Bunny is scum, he would not need to look on the Bot to know Balki's alignment and role?

He would read the final Vote Count, see that Balki had been killed, and would not even need to read down the page to learn what Balki had flipped. He would already know that information because he would have learned it in the Mafia chat as soon as the game began.

You however appear to think it is true that he did scroll down to read about Balki's flip, but then a lie that he did not keep reading the rest of the page.

The way you are constructing your view of these little details does not seem quite right to me.

If you follow the link I posted a few posts back, I confirmed there with Bunny with a screenshot that he learned about the Balki vote by scrolling down in the bot.

I agree if he's mafia he would have learned it in the maf thread and when I asked him where he learned it, it makes sense scum bunny would have come up with a different location (not remembering the other location had all the flips)

[Jamiet99uk]

Nothing happened to me last night.

No tadpoles, no goldfish, no great-crested newts, and no attacks or other actions that I am aware of.

[Jamiet99uk]

Fluminator, do you realise, if Bunny is scum, he would not need to look on the Bot to know Balki's alignment and role?

He would read the final Vote Count, see that Balki had been killed, and would not even need to read down the page to learn what Balki had flipped. He would already know that information because he would have learned it in the Mafia chat as soon as the game began.

You however appear to think it is true that he did scroll down to read about Balki's flip, but then a lie that he did not keep reading the rest of the page.

The way you are constructing your view of these little details does not seem quite right to me.

If you follow the link I posted a few posts back, I confirmed there with Bunny with a screenshot that he learned about the Balki vote by scrolling down in the bot.

I agree if he's mafia he would have learned it in the maf thread and when I asked him where he learned it, it makes sense scum bunny would have come up with a different location (not remembering the other location had all the flips)

So you actually think he's lying about the whole thing, and he's constructed his lie in a sloppy way that does not stand up to scrutiny.

[BunnyGo]

My theory is ghug is probably mafia that was saved by his team using the 2 wagons power up

I have an inkling that the mafia team is shitting the bed and ghug was someone they wanted to keep alive

How? How does that save scum!ghug?

[Jamiet99uk]

Fluminator, do you realise, if Bunny is scum, he would not need to look on the Bot to know Balki's alignment and role?

He would read the final Vote Count, see that Balki had been killed, and would not even need to read down the page to learn what Balki had flipped. He would already know that information because he would have learned it in the Mafia chat as soon as the game began.

You however appear to think it is true that he did scroll down to read about Balki's flip, but then a lie that he did not keep reading the rest of the page.

The way you are constructing your view of these little details does not seem quite right to me.

If you follow the link I posted a few posts back, I confirmed there with Bunny with a screenshot that he learned about the Balki vote by scrolling down in the bot.

I agree if he's mafia he would have learned it in the maf thread and when I asked him where he learned it, it makes sense scum bunny would have come up with a different location (not remembering the other location had all the flips)

Hold on.

Bunny is an experienced player who has played lots of times since the Peterbot was created.

I don't buy that he would forget that all flips are listed on the bot, and thus incriminate himself in the way you are suggesting.

[BunnyGo]

Fluminator, do you realise, if Bunny is scum, he would not need to look on the Bot to know Balki's alignment and role?

He would read the final Vote Count, see that Balki had been killed, and would not even need to read down the page to learn what Balki had flipped. He would already know that information because he would have learned it in the Mafia chat as soon as the game began.

You however appear to think it is true that he did scroll down to read about Balki's flip, but then a lie that he did not keep reading the rest of the page.

The way you are constructing your view of these little details does not seem quite right to me.

If you follow the link I posted a few posts back, I confirmed there with Bunny with a screenshot that he learned about the Balki vote by scrolling down in the bot.

I agree if he's mafia he would have learned it in the maf thread and when I asked him where he learned it, it makes sense scum bunny would have come up with a different location (not remembering the other location had all the flips)

##vote Flum until he affirms

[Foxcastle]

Flum sat on Ham all day D1 and pushed Balki into a 9-9 tie with 9 minutes to go on D2.

Rather less D1 shitposting than I would have thought! Says, "I was one of the leaders of the Hamilton wagon and was wrong rip," which is odd given that he never actually pushed Ham and 5 minutes before D1 EOD he said, "I'm probably willing to flashwagon lfischl but other than that I'm reasonably confident I'll be staying on Hamilton over Flavius, Damo, or Dip".

And then there's a bunch more that seems pretty innocuous.

##VOTE FLUM

I'm going to go see how D1 votes look assuming Flum is scum.

I am willing to cede credit for the Hamilton wagon if it helps you. I'm keeping the Balki cred though.

Are you implicitly claiming you don't bus???

[FlaviusAetius]

Lord Beancomb announced "A DUEL HATH BEEN INITIATED, DILLY DILLY" on page 153.

At that moment in time, before anyone moved their votes, the vote tally was:

Diplomacy&Warfare(6)- DemonRHK, Foxcastle, Jamiet99uk, Lfischl, Worcej, Yoyoyozo
Ghug(3)- Dousing, Flavius, JustAGuyNamedWill
Lfischl(3)- aarodactyl, Col7by, Vecna
Balki(3)- Diplomacy&Warfare, Squigs, Sweetandcool
Dousing(2)- Balki, Ghug
Jamiet99uk(2)- Ezio, Fluminator
Flavius(1)- Bonatogether
Sweetandcool(1)- BunnyGo
Ezio(1)- Foodcoats
Damo666(1)- TheMadMonarch

Note: Damo had his vote on Bonatogether when he died, but since Damo had died, that was no longer counted.

This tell us a lot because if we think mafia had two townies they think they could have risen to the top then...its unlikely a mafia was bussing Balki at this point, lfischl and jamie then I think were who they thought they cold bring to the top.
Our ghug wagon wasnt gaining momentum not one bit. Im not entirely convinced ghug is mafia anymore tho a lot has been said to disprove it I still would like to see his responses to my responses, instead of "oh you broke the quote feature"

[BunnyGo]

##VOTE foosier coats, MD

Why?

[Foxcastle]

I'm skeptical that everyone will participate, but...

Nothing happened to me last night.

[Fluminator]

I've laid my case.

He allegedly didn't know damo/dip flipped.
I asked him where he read the Balki flip.
He said it was scrolling down in the bot (while distracted with kids).
I confirm the location and he affirms.
That spot shows all the flips.

I don't believe he didn't know damo/dip flipped and messed up.

[BunnyGo]

I was not tadpoled, for the record.

Ghug gets it

@flum and flav (and others) claim your night