M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

I might. For now I wanna get more people on Food though and show he's a viable wagon too.

Why food? I havent seen the argument for it yet

I haven't felt any conviction or drive to solve. He's randomly kept calling me scum and a lurker when I was pretty active all day 2, but he seemed slow to the party on that.
Also his votes d2 are awful. Me->Damo (which always looked bad imo)->me->damo->me.
Finally, when the cards were on the table and it was balki vs dip, he voted dip.

This was his vote:
"
@@VOTE Diplomacy&Warfare

I guess?
"
There's no reasoning there. He hadn't previously scumread dip, and we now know that was the *wrong* wagon.
It was his only post in the final 5 hours of the day, with 15 minutes left. I suspect he was posting more in the mafia daychat than in this one.

I'm persuaded by Ezio here, some good work.

##Vote Foodcoats.

[ghug]

Early in the day? Why?

That makes no sense. You would use it close to deadline.

Early in the game.

“I don't really want to get into the detailed psychology of this because I don't want to help the Mafia. My point is that it's not a given that this was scum's doing.” -ghug

Maybe someone was NK’d and saved. I would think mafia would want someone to replace Balki’s strategic capabilities, but maybe they had a good idea of who a PR might be?

I truly do not understand what my comments on the battle master have to do with your thoughts on the tadpole.

[Foxcastle]

I'm not sure about Bona, but otherwise yeah those are okay.

The yoyo wagon is a fun one right now. I hard townread everyone on it but I also doubt all of your reads.

Ah, but I really think Fox is Mafia.

Why are we just hearing about this out of the blue?

[Squigs44]

I don't agree with some of the stuff yoyo has posted, but his opinions feel genuine and his posts are all logically consistent, so I don't see anything blatantly scummy from yoyo.
He hasn't done a ton of scum hunting but as a sub id give him a little bit of a break on activity, and his voting records not fantastic, but from vibes/feel I don't think yoyo is my first or second or third option to vote here.

I would like to hear a bit more from yoyo on his scum reads, especially S&C and aarodactyl

[Foxcastle]

I have been softening on my sense that foodcoats is scum. But will read Ezio's case if I can find it.

[Squigs44]

The yoyo wagon is a fun one right now. I hard townread everyone on it but I also doubt all of your reads.

Ah, but I really think Fox is Mafia.

Why are we just hearing about this out of the blue?

He's the originator of the Balki/Fox drama tin foil and has been pushing it for a full day now

[Foxcastle]

I'm getting by on skimming and vibes right now, sorry about that. Family stuff, early mornings, lots of activity, and a redeye flight to cap it off tomorrow.

[Foxcastle]

Ah, but I really think Fox is Mafia.

Why are we just hearing about this out of the blue?

He's the originator of the Balki/Fox drama tin foil and has been pushing it for a full day now

I was being sarcastic, for the record. People in tunnels should hear something other than the echoing of their own voices every once in a while...

[Ezio]

Why food? I havent seen the argument for it yet

I haven't felt any conviction or drive to solve. He's randomly kept calling me scum and a lurker when I was pretty active all day 2, but he seemed slow to the party on that.
Also his votes d2 are awful. Me->Damo (which always looked bad imo)->me->damo->me.
Finally, when the cards were on the table and it was balki vs dip, he voted dip.

This was his vote:
"
@@VOTE Diplomacy&Warfare

I guess?
"
There's no reasoning there. He hadn't previously scumread dip, and we now know that was the *wrong* wagon.
It was his only post in the final 5 hours of the day, with 15 minutes left. I suspect he was posting more in the mafia daychat than in this one.

I'm persuaded by Ezio here, some good work.

##Vote Foodcoats.

Oh I even forgot to put the vote count when he made his vote:

It was 8 on Balki vs 6 on Dip, and he made it 7 on dip.

[worcej]

I was the lead auditor for the internal ISO 9001:2015 audit for my companies largest production site that produces caustic soda (NaOH), hydrochloric acid (HCl), and Liquid Chlorine (Cl2) and has over 100 employees.

I interviewed ~20 people over 30 hours of on-site time and then worked in my hotel room to compile everything for the next day's interviews.

Is this all an excuse? No. But don't think I did any meta analysis or prior-game reviews on the bot as I tried to follow this game via my cell phone the past few days

I think you can provide a really good perspective on the game then if you take the time to review the game and offer a new set of eyes to it

The sad thing is you’re probably right…

[worcej]

Worcej, there are FOUR potential saving actions, potentially in play.

Why is it "fringe" to consider that at least ONE of those four, might be?

Player count decreasing odds.
Knowing for sure 1/5 PRs for us isn’t a doctor role.
Knowing scum can 100% tadpole.

Just seems weird to think it’s “interesting” people would default to the more obvious mechanic.

I think it's weird not to consider both and immediately jump to the tadpole conclusion.

Insert the spider man finger pointing meme where everyone is weird.

[worcej]

I mean… I really really don’t like the food voters…

[Foxcastle]

I haven't thought very hard about the tadpole. But Balki is a very good player that they just lost. Maybe that's enough reason to recruit a strong veteran who might think about how town is already down an additional 2 losses (Damo and Dip), with a potential 3rd easy loss from the second vig shot.

[foodcoats]

##Vote Sweet

You've been flirting with evil too long. You're most likely tadpoled

Is this a serious contention Flum? You think sweet was town who was tadpoled and is now mafia? Why?

[foodcoats]

##Vote yoyo
Historically replaced players have a higher likelihood of being mafia aligned.
Bai.

Is this the best you can do at this stage of the game?

[foodcoats]

So somebody got tadpoled huh? I'll check the doc to see if there is another mech explanation but probably tadpole.

I'm offended it wasn't me ):

I’m finally caught up again (well technically a page behind because this is the most recent post I’ve read). If no one else has done this by the time I’m all the way caught up, I can do this (mostly because I’ve been pretty unhelpful.

@flum: might not be able to do your request about iso’ing you and bunny before eod. Will try though.

Basically, he said he saw Balki's death in the bot, and not Damo and Dip's, even though they're literally in the same place one line lower

You scumread Bunny because he didn’t see a webpage the same way you did?

[Foxcastle]

I have been softening on my sense that foodcoats is scum. But will read Ezio's case if I can find it.

Eh, I don't think this is it. And I don't think it's bunny. Of the top three wagons, I'm more likely to vote Yoyo. But I want to look at other options.

[foodcoats]

My theory is ghug is probably mafia that was saved by his team using the 2 wagons power up

I have an inkling that the mafia team is shitting the bed and ghug was someone they wanted to keep alive

For this to make sense you have to believe first that ghug is mafia - otherwise it is sheer speculation.

What makes you think ghug is mafia?

[foodcoats]

##VOTE foosier coats, MD

I’m listening.

[Foxcastle]

##VOTE foosier coats, MD

I’m listening.

I should do a Frasier-themed mini...