M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Ezio]

I will ##vote foodcoats here. I would love for the wagons today to be between foodcoats, bona, and yoyo.

I'm not sure about Bona, but otherwise yeah those are okay.

The yoyo wagon is a fun one right now. I hard townread everyone on it but I also doubt all of your reads.

[worcej]

I probably missed this or it was screamed to not be discussed, but do we think the vig shot was from scum?

[Fluminator]

I will ##vote foodcoats here. I would love for the wagons today to be between foodcoats, bona, and yoyo.

I'm not sure about Bona, but otherwise yeah those are okay.

The yoyo wagon is a fun one right now. I hard townread everyone on it but I also doubt all of your reads.

Is there more to Yoyo besides him being a replacement?

[sweetandcool]

I probably missed this or it was screamed to not be discussed, but do we think the vig shot was from scum?

From Town. Though yoyo or someone has some bonkers theory it was Mafia.

[Jamiet99uk]

Weird flex, but okay.

I immediately thought tadpole after no kill was shown

As aaro has pointed out, there are actually multiple possible saves / protectives.

Why is it weird to consider the possibility of a save?

The weirdness was thinking it’s very interesting people automatically assumed the 100% known mechanic compared to the fringe what if’s on PR actions

Worcej, there are FOUR potential saving actions, potentially in play.

Why is it "fringe" to consider that at least ONE of those four, might be?

[sweetandcool]

I will ##vote foodcoats here. I would love for the wagons today to be between foodcoats, bona, and yoyo.

I'm not sure about Bona, but otherwise yeah those are okay.

The yoyo wagon is a fun one right now. I hard townread everyone on it but I also doubt all of your reads.

Ah, but I really think Fox is Mafia.

[Jamiet99uk]

I probably missed this or it was screamed to not be discussed, but do we think the vig shot was from scum?

It has been debated. Yoyo certainly thinks it was a scum shot, and Vecna appears to agree.

Flavius and I discussed the fact it was more likely to be town, because Damo was already a leading wagon when he was shot - therefore why wouldn't scum save the vig shot to use on someone else, and just allow the town to miskill Damo?

[sweetandcool]

As aaro has pointed out, there are actually multiple possible saves / protectives.

Why is it weird to consider the possibility of a save?

The weirdness was thinking it’s very interesting people automatically assumed the 100% known mechanic compared to the fringe what if’s on PR actions

Worcej, there are FOUR potential saving actions, potentially in play.

Why is it "fringe" to consider that at least ONE of those four, might be?

I'm sure the sheer random probability is pretty low.

[worcej]

As aaro has pointed out, there are actually multiple possible saves / protectives.

Why is it weird to consider the possibility of a save?

The weirdness was thinking it’s very interesting people automatically assumed the 100% known mechanic compared to the fringe what if’s on PR actions

Worcej, there are FOUR potential saving actions, potentially in play.

Why is it "fringe" to consider that at least ONE of those four, might be?

Player count decreasing odds.
Knowing for sure 1/5 PRs for us isn’t a doctor role.
Knowing scum can 100% tadpole.

Just seems weird to think it’s “interesting” people would default to the more obvious mechanic.

[sweetandcool]

I probably missed this or it was screamed to not be discussed, but do we think the vig shot was from scum?

It has been debated. Yoyo certainly thinks it was a scum shot, and Vecna appears to agree.

Flavius and I discussed the fact it was more likely to be town, because Damo was already a leading wagon when he was shot - therefore why wouldn't scum save the vig shot to use on someone else, and just allow the town to miskill Damo?

Vecna has definitely been off with his reads since D2, but he's definitely Town. I feel like Yoyo has a good chance to be Mafia.

[brainbomb]

Meanwhile at Zultars mansion..

Zultar: Ah this is the life. Ever since I left that website, I can relax. No more posts about Mafia this and Mafia that. no more threads about Draugnar and angry emails threatening lawsuit. No more having to deal with complimenting people. Now I can just play Baldurs Gate.

alright

New game lets go easy mode. tactician? Sure

okay I want my character to be a beautiful drow woman
She will have boobs 4 and vulva 2
Okay thats set
Alright now I need to make her a super powerful build.

lets do an Arcane Trickster Rogue named JMO; Totally. Yea.

Alright. Lets do this. Time to begin my new life!


Vote Count Day 3

Yoyoyozo (3) DemonRHK FlaviusAetius sweetandcool
foodcoats (2) ghug Ezio
BunnyGo (2) Col7by Fluminator
Bonatogether (1) Squigs44
Jamiet99uk (1) foodcoats
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Vecna
DemonRHK (1) Yoyoyozo
ghug (1) worcej


Non-votes
aarodactyl
Bonatogether
BunnyGo
Dousing
Foxcastle
Jamiet99uk
JustAGuyNamedWill
lfischl
TheMadMonarch
Remaining players


Yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyozo is scheduled to die die die die die
About 22 hours remain

[worcej]

I probably missed this or it was screamed to not be discussed, but do we think the vig shot was from scum?

It has been debated. Yoyo certainly thinks it was a scum shot, and Vecna appears to agree.

Flavius and I discussed the fact it was more likely to be town, because Damo was already a leading wagon when he was shot - therefore why wouldn't scum save the vig shot to use on someone else, and just allow the town to miskill Damo?

I tend to agree the vig is town, but a scum vig could explain the likely tadpole if the vig shots are being used to overcome the lost kill to give them a strong swing in win potential

[sweetandcool]

I probably missed this or it was screamed to not be discussed, but do we think the vig shot was from scum?

It has been debated. Yoyo certainly thinks it was a scum shot, and Vecna appears to agree.

Flavius and I discussed the fact it was more likely to be town, because Damo was already a leading wagon when he was shot - therefore why wouldn't scum save the vig shot to use on someone else, and just allow the town to miskill Damo?

I tend to agree the vig is town, but a scum vig could explain the likely tadpole if the vig shots are being used to overcome the lost kill to give them a strong swing in win potential

If Mafia shot I see no reason they wouldn't target someone like Squig, unless they intended to Tadpole them or they already are Mafia.

Damo makes no sense.

[worcej]

I think the food votes are btw

[sweetandcool]

I think the food votes are btw

Scum Foodcoats tends to give you food poisoning.

[worcej]

It has been debated. Yoyo certainly thinks it was a scum shot, and Vecna appears to agree.

Flavius and I discussed the fact it was more likely to be town, because Damo was already a leading wagon when he was shot - therefore why wouldn't scum save the vig shot to use on someone else, and just allow the town to miskill Damo?

I tend to agree the vig is town, but a scum vig could explain the likely tadpole if the vig shots are being used to overcome the lost kill to give them a strong swing in win potential

If Mafia shot I see no reason they wouldn't target someone like Squig, unless they intended to Tadpole them or they already are Mafia.

Damo makes no sense.

Hiding the shot to make people think it’s town is about the only thing I could think of. But there is too much cheekiness assumed for it to be scum where it just is more simple to conclude it’s a town shot.

[FlaviusAetius]

In fact, why wouldn't scum battle master have used it day 1 with TvT?

Town using it early makes the most sense because it has the least likelihood of devastating the game.

Scum should've saved it for later in the game to fuck with milo/kilo math. I'd be inclined to think that if it was used by scum, the user was one of the wagons near EOD (Jamie, fisch, or ghug) who were concerned they'd possibly die and need to use it before losing it.

hmmm never thought of that

[Yoyoyozo]

1. Yoyo - Town
2. Balki - Mafia
3. JustAGuyNamedWill - Town
4. Jamiet99uk - Town
5. Bonatogether - Town
6. damo666 - Town
7. Hamilton Brian - Town
8. Dousing - Town
9. foodcoats - Mafia
10. BunnyGo - Town
11. ghug - Tadpoled?
12. Ezio - Town
13. FlaviusAetius - Null
14. DiplomacyandWarfare -Town
15. Kakarroto -Town (I miss you, sweet prince)
16. Worcej -Town
17. lfischl - Town
18. Vecna - Town
19. foxcastle - Null
20. TheMadMonarch - Who?
21. DemonRHK - Anarchist
22. Col7by - Town
23. Squiggs44 - Town
24. sweetandcool - Mafia
25. fluminator - Anarchist
26. aarodactyl - Mafia

[FlaviusAetius]

I think I'm back to the belief that mafia were the ones with the battle master ability, which means either the battle master felt they were in danger OR scum thought they could get two MKs. So that doesn't really help us much in narrowing anything down. It also means the VCA is less useful.

I think my wagon pool remains:
lfischl
Jamie

<gap>

Bona
Bunny
Ezio
MadMonarch
Yoyo
Foodcoats

My paranoid category
Flum
Fox
Ghug
Vecna

My keep for now category
Worcej
Col7by
Will
DemonRHK
Dousing
Aarodactyl
Flavius

My townlock category
Sweetandcool
Squigs44

Names are also in order, so top is scum and bottom is town. If I had to guess, there's 2 scum in my wagon pool category, 1 in my paranoid, and someone snuck in my keep for now category.

If you think the mafia had battlemaster that means they think they all could have survived D2...interesting I dont think I think that

[Ezio]

I'm not sure about Bona, but otherwise yeah those are okay.

The yoyo wagon is a fun one right now. I hard townread everyone on it but I also doubt all of your reads.

Is there more to Yoyo besides him being a replacement?

I've really hated his votes: SnC->me->ending on dip. Now he's on RHK.
I found his assumption the vig was mafia exactly opposite (if he flips scum, I think it's actually really like the vig *is* mafia).

I'm also just, very unimpressed by his play which I think is scum indicative for yoyo.