M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Bonatogether]

I'd call it the "I learned french from high school/college classes + the 3 days I've lived in Montreal so far" dialect.

Do you and Bona go to college together?

Prolly not? At least nobody in my teacher courses introduced themselves like "Hi, my name is Bonetogether! Would you like to play a casual party game competitively and commit yourself to reading a chat forum every evening for like a month????"

(no shade to Webdip mafia, I love this game)

i hope to never meet someone from this site

[Bonatogether]

##VOTE Diplomacy&Warfare

I guess?

This is a plausible teammate reaction.

i hate agreeing with the grunk

[Bonatogether]

##vote dip

He does this nakedly right after Bunny does it. Not great.

i didn't see bongo's vote

[Bonatogether]

can we tie the vote

Bona a page ago: I will veto a tie

see the post after

[BunnyGo]

Yea Dousing is absolutely town.
##Vote Ghug. How are you reading this guy and thinking he's mafia?

a good ezio post!

no it's not

[Squigs44]

EoD report card:

Good:
Squigs
Flavius
Colby
Fox
Demon
worcej

Bad:
lfischl
Ezio
Flum
Yoyo
food
Bona?

I came to similar conclusions, although I'm more lukewarm on Fox and worcej. Bona looks real bad I think, and I feel the same way about them as I did about Balki

[Squigs44]

Dousing defending himself from Balki during the night, after Balki died seems kinda interesting

[Bonatogether]

EoD report card:

Good:
Squigs
Flavius
Colby
Fox
Demon
worcej

Bad:
lfischl
Ezio
Flum
Yoyo
food
Bona?

I came to similar conclusions, although I'm more lukewarm on Fox and worcej. Bona looks real bad I think, and I feel the same way about them as I did about Balki

you've been shading me for forever and idk why

[sweetandcool]

Dousing defending himself from Balki during the night, after Balki died seems kinda interesting

Yes, it's authentic behavior.

I suppose the question is whether Mafia Dousing would think to towntell like this? Or if he would be coached?

I just think Town, but almost certainly not coached if Mafia.

[sweetandcool]

You know, I might actually analyze this.

It's possible but unlikely that Battle Master activated after the duel was announced. Consequently, it was activated earlier. Town doesn't have motivation to activate it unless two scumreads seem extremely likely to be the top two wagons. Or at least town reads are unlikely to be. Town would also likely communicate that the power was activated.

Consequently, Mafia activated it. Which means they thought it unlikely they would be in the top two wagons.

[Yoyoyozo]

We have like 30 VTs y'all. It's all good.

Trust Dip and Squigs.

Crap. I think Balki is actually town.
@brainbomb is NoKill valid during a duel?

He hasn’t been posting the no kill tallies so I’m assuming if you want to no kill we need a tie. I think we should kill Balki though and let your role resolve as we get more PR

If you’re right, sweet, that means that Balki was still trying to throw us off with this deceptive move at EOD. He knew Dip would flip as town

[Ezio]

It's better for town to kill a VT here than no kill in my opinion

I was gonna disagree, but seeing ##vote balki self vote I changed my mind.

I doubt town Balki self votes.

Contriving a reason to get on the winning wagon?

It was still 10-9 at this point but I feel like Balki was the heavy favorite.

I disagree with this assessment. The wagons were 10-9 with Balki in the lead, but Balki was self voting at the time. With me voting it makes it 11-9
Assuming Balki switches back, it would still only be 10-10. My vote essentially only tied it, with 5 minutes left in the phase. If I vote dip, the EoD wagons might have flipped.

Foxcastle and Bona both voted after me and explicitly stated the only reason they did so was to avoid the tie.
Here's foxcastle:
"↑Vecna: "we need a bigger gap so it cant be tied"
UGH

@@VOTE BALKI
"

and here's bona:

"@@vote balki

tie avoidance, prefer the other kill
"


If I'm on Dip, that doesn't happen.

[sweetandcool]

Crap. I think Balki is actually town.
@brainbomb is NoKill valid during a duel?

He hasn’t been posting the no kill tallies so I’m assuming if you want to no kill we need a tie. I think we should kill Balki though and let your role resolve as we get more PR

If you’re right, sweet, that means that Balki was still trying to throw us off with this deceptive move at EOD. He knew Dip would flip as town

Oh good point! If Mafia is responsible then Balki would have known he waas doomed.

[sweetandcool]

I was gonna disagree, but seeing ##vote balki self vote I changed my mind.

I doubt town Balki self votes.

Contriving a reason to get on the winning wagon?

It was still 10-9 at this point but I feel like Balki was the heavy favorite.

I disagree with this assessment. The wagons were 10-9 with Balki in the lead, but Balki was self voting at the time. With me voting it makes it 11-9
Assuming Balki switches back, it would still only be 10-10. My vote essentially only tied it, with 5 minutes left in the phase. If I vote dip, the EoD wagons might have flipped.

Foxcastle and Bona both voted after me and explicitly stated the only reason they did so was to avoid the tie.
Here's foxcastle:
"↑Vecna: "we need a bigger gap so it cant be tied"
UGH

@@VOTE BALKI
"

and here's bona:

"@@vote balki

tie avoidance, prefer the other kill
"


If I'm on Dip, that doesn't happen.

Considering that Balki most likely knew that he was dying no matter what (I doubt Town ordered the double kill), and the rest of Mafia did too, it kind of renders VCA moot. At least, to the extent that Mafia could happily vote whichever player they wanted since they knew it wouldn't make a difference.

ghug's psychology analysis might be the type of VCA that is useful. Otherwise, pre-duel VCA is probably the best thing to look at.

[ghug]

If I had a town role that let me kill the top two wagons I'd use the shit out of that early.

[sweetandcool]

Hmmm, so unless Mafia messed up, it would make sense for them to activate their power near the 30 minute mark. Maybe when Balki taunted the thread?

Either way, that means the wagons at the time seemed likely to be T vT.

Obviously, Dip was a likely death. 2nd place seemed like lfisch or maybe Jamiet. Ghug looks slightly good but I would doubt it had much potential for 2nd place, plus Mafia probably could have DK Dip while protecting him (if he is Mafia).

No way Mafia activated after the duel started, even if the potentially could have sniped it. They wouldn't want to condemn Balki.

So lfisch is probably Town. Jamiet might be Town based on this, but I think he might fall in a similar category to ghug.

[sweetandcool]

If I had a town role that let me kill the top two wagons I'd use the shit out of that early.

Early in the day? Why?

That makes no sense. You would use it close to deadline.

[sweetandcool]

If I had a town role that let me kill the top two wagons I'd use the shit out of that early.

Early in the day? Why?

That makes no sense. You would use it close to deadline.

Or you would announce?

[sweetandcool]

Wait, this is weird ghug.

You strongly Townread Dip N1 and that carried through to D2.

It became clear quickly that he would be a top candidate for the day.

So you are saying you would use the power early with no concern for your townreads?

I don't like the psychology of this. It paints a picture.

[Yoyoyozo]

Wait, this is weird ghug.

You strongly Townread Dip N1 and that carried through to D2.

It became clear quickly that he would be a top candidate for the day.

So you are saying you would use the power early with no concern for your townreads?

I don't like the psychology of this. It paints a picture.

WITCH!