M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[ghug]

##VOTE Diplomacy&Warfare

I guess?

This is a plausible teammate reaction.

[ghug]

##vote NoKill.

We're not killing the claimed town PR, and we shouldn't kill someone I townread.

This looks really bad.

[sweetandcool]

I'm going to assume some idiot towny just vigged damo.

I'm super glad he played it right! I thought he was a PR, but he was too obvious about it, he was thinking one level above me, a VT roleplaying as a PR roleplaying as a VT/scum.

Well done damo, it's too bad it was all in vain.

What?!

Will you walk me slowly through THIS thought process?

I hope you haven't gotten confused by the pronouns I used. "He" refers to damo in all instances.

Damo was lead wagon and very probably the DK. Why would Mafia bother vigging him?

[ghug]

Uhhh… What happened?

I used a PR ability to negate all votes other than for me and for Balki.

I feel far better voting you now.

I think this is a good look for worcej.

[Yoyoyozo]

A DUEL HAS BEEN INITIATED

Diplomacy and Warfare vs Balki Bartokomous

There are too many roles. Can someone explain what this means?

It feels fairly obvious what this meant, right?

It wasn’t entirely obvious. I didn’t know until reading the role description that the other person had to be a top wagon along with you.

[sweetandcool]

I guess the good thing about this is that whoever shot is Townclear. No way Mafia makes that shot.

Might as well claim the kill, I think, assuming no powers left.

Ok, I'm starting to see (I think) why you thought the vig should claim.

Wish you'd walked me through it yourself.

I thought you were talking about my comment on whoever used the power to kill both duelists....

[ghug]

##vote dip

He does this nakedly right after Bunny does it. Not great.

[ghug]

Everyone keeps saying they will vote for me and then they don't vote for me.

scumteam signalling?

Cringe

[sweetandcool]

Yea that's me btw
not going to die without at least using my PR ability

Why did this duel help town? Why not let it ride out? What do we gain from limited options?

Squigs town using the same Flum logic.

Small objection to this train of thought.

It's awfully convenient that you too had a grumpy reaction. So you are self-clearing yourself.

[ghug]

Or we could tie the vote right. I feel like it will be harder to get everyone on no vote and maybe be telling to see if anyone pushes either over the edge at the end

I was about to say that. I think the no kill votes get ignored but I think ties still are effectively no kill.

Aaro has not made a single post pushing me in either direction on him yet, which is interesting.

[ghug]

It's better for town to kill a VT here than no kill in my opinion

I was gonna disagree, but seeing ##vote balki self vote I changed my mind.

I doubt town Balki self votes.

Contriving a reason to get on the winning wagon?

It was still 10-9 at this point but I feel like Balki was the heavy favorite.

[ghug]

can we tie the vote

Bona a page ago: I will veto a tie

[ghug]

we need a bigger gap so it cant be tied

Vecna's very on top of it as he arrives. He naked voted Balki several minutes prior and those are the only posts.

[Dousing]

*snip*

I also voted Ghug which is exactly what kak wanted to do (second to voting for D&W) + would've done a LOT to prove or disprove the credibility of kak's final argument

Kak's argument about me was mostly based on the idea that town D&W was my teammate, so maybe let's chill on continuing to use Kak as an excuse to vote for me.

Did you suspect me before I started voting for you?

I didn't say that the argument holds water anymore. Remember: I voted you D2 without knowing whether D&W was scum.

If you wanna know my opinions on anyone pre-you voting for me it's here:

Player List


1. chaqa/yoyo - null I'd say lean town
2. kingofthepirates [AND BALKI] - null Balki is fine, but KotP was a little sus with their votes/discourse. Idk *exactly* where I'd put them but I'd say that tilts them into scum territory
3. JustAGuyNamedWill - null Their confusion is bordering on annoyance which is kinda town-coded
4. Jamiet99uk - null
5. Bonatogether - lean scum
6. damo666 - scum maybe lean-scum
7. *Skull emoji*
8. Dousing - town
9. foodcoats - handsome and suave I think you switched these two
10. BunnyGo - town NO WAY YOU THINK THIS
11. ghug - town Kak's right ab Ghug being odd tbh
12. Ezio - lean scum
13. FlaviusAetius - town
14. DiplomacyandWarfare - … lean town ...Ditto
15. *Death emoji*
16. Worcej - scum *How is Ezio lean scum but Worcej flat out scum?
17. lfischl - town You'll have to explain this one
18. Vecna - town
19. foxcastle - town Its more like a tilt town but okay. Either way I wouldn't join an anti-foxcastle wagon just yet
20. TheMadMonarch - scum is there even any info on her?
21. DemonRHK - town I can't recall a single post this person made (That's a reflection on my carelessness not Demon's abilities)
22. Col7by - null Eh, their confusion reads pretty town to me tbh
23. Squiggs44 - town Who?
24. sweetandcool - town HAHAHA
25. fluminator - town I might be focusing too hard on the tadpole incident but my gut doesn't like Mr. Steven Harper Avatar
26. aarodactyl - lean town Who?

I color coded this based on how I agree with it.

Green means I agree
Red means I don't
Yellow means no opinion

Anything colorless I added

pre-kak dying is here:

Sweet feels bad
D&W seems crazy
damo seems cranky; this is NAI and probably says more about his rl status and whatnot than in game
I'm glad Squigs is here
kingofpirates seems absentand needs a lot of pressure tomorrow
aaro seems null; certainly not towny
food...you've said a lot and I have no read on you at all. Which disturbs me. Needs an isolated read at some point.
sh** really gotta pee.

if Just is scum, he's intentionally played D1 differently
I wonder if the daychat is useful for hunting scum.

ghug seems off, but not necessarily scummy...just off.

I dunno...I'm looking forward to this game getting winnowed out a bit so I can reread and go on more than vibes.

I color coordinated this based on whether I agreed or disagreed with the sentiment what’s in white I don’t have a concrete opinion on yet

[ghug]

we need a bigger gap so it cant be tied

UGH

##VOTE BALKI

This is not a bus vote.

[Dousing]

This is my PR:

Eldritch Knight: once per game, choose another player, and the wagon must be you vs them. If you activate this it will be announced, you must submit this action before the final 30 minutes of a day phase.

If brain didn't already make this clear, only me and balki can be daykilled today.

he can still be scum right? PR roles are possible for both factions

lfischl suddenly becoming very active here is interesting. He had posted a rip damo and a vote a few pages prior, but getting involved because his teammate got dueled seems plausible.

Interesting

[Dousing]

noting the take by yoyo

How is this a nothing take??

read it again

Oops, sorry Bunny

Damn, I was actually prepared to go all out against you

[ghug]

EoD report card:

Good:
Squigs
Flavius
Colby
Fox
Demon
worcej

Bad:
lfischl
Ezio
Flum
Yoyo
food
Bona?

[ghug]

Why did this duel help town? Why not let it ride out? What do we gain from limited options?

Squigs town using the same Flum logic.

Small objection to this train of thought.

It's awfully convenient that you too had a grumpy reaction. So you are self-clearing yourself.

Draw your own conclusions. If you want to put me in the crafty bucket with Flum, fair enough.

I know my reaction was townie. I expect some townies to react similarly. I'm gonna use that to solve. That's the exact sort of situation where I suck as scum: town ghug would totally lay into Dip, scum ghug is afraid of doing the same because of how it will look in retrospect. Moments like these are very powerful, so I draw on my own emotional experiences of them.

Points for astute observation, though.

[ghug]

EoD report card:

Good:
Squigs
Flavius
Colby
Fox
Demon
worcej

Bad:
lfischl
Ezio
Flum
Yoyo
food
Bona?

Add Vecna? at the end of the naughty list.