M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[sweetandcool]

I'm not loving the Jamiet wagon taking off after he left, and I don't feel like those votes are well justified.

scummy post about a towny player

scummy post about a town player

Scummy post by merit of scum posting it.

[Bonatogether]

the man is famous for his spreadsheet how can we not atleast look at it

why would we think there's any value in it to start? why not hammer on the thing we have right in front of us?

If ANYTHING is wolfy its this, theres literally zero reason in the entire world to NOT look at all the evidence we can get. Why are you so sure his spreadsheet will tell us he's more townie than mafia? You cant know that...unless you do

the man is famous for his spreadsheet how can we not atleast look at it

why would we think there's any value in it to start? why not hammer on the thing we have right in front of us?

If ANYTHING is wolfy its this, theres literally zero reason in the entire world to NOT look at all the evidence we can get. Why are you so sure his spreadsheet will tell us he's more townie than mafia? You cant know that...unless you do

bro tell me what on earth could be useful about a damn spreadsheet. it's been said that it's just alignment pairs. who cares? our goat of alignment pairs has been shot already.

simple facts: fox made a bad argument, which i view as scummy. you are trying to shift discussion away from that post, towards something as accurate as reading goat entrails. why do you not want players engaging with fox's argument as it has been posted?

[FlaviusAetius]

Just read Dousing ISO. Eek.

##vote Dousing

I hadn't really focused on Dousing until this point, but in the back of my mind I had him sorted as Town.

Reading his ISO, a few things stand out:

(1) He has this take on Fluminator and the tadpole early on and then much of his day is about that thing. Just feels like he may be using Flum/tadpole as a crutch for engagement rather than showing much curiosity or interest in the rest of the game. Then says without trying to be ironic: "I feel like we’re spending 90% of our energy talking about the tadpole. Is there a chance we’re that the tadpole is a bit of a red herring?"

(2) Keeps telling us that he has been reading lots of pages but keeps his focus very narrow on a handful of subjects.

(3) Makes a long post about the various reasons mafia might have killed Kak without really saying anything at all.

(4) Concludes "Foxcastle cooked and made the best argument I've seen this game so far" while not townreading Foxcastle, which seems like just the right note to play as a Wolf, whether partnered with Fox or not, as it further discredits me while taking no committed position on any alignment.

I think this is a good flip.

1. To be fair the tadpole discussion did get a little much, Im sure he was just trying to get us back on track
2. What narrow handful of subjects? Im looking at his Day 1 discussion and I dont see that at all
3. Yea that was sus but someone needed to lay it out for everyone, I dont think it warranted that much of a discussion tho. Kak was obv town, and he had a tunnel on Dip, what reveals most about Kak's team is killing Ghug, something he also wanted to do.
4. Anyone who sided with Foxcastle in that argument you have read as mafia

2. E.g., Flum, tadpole, something about sweet, off the top of my head. Very narrow focus and little curiosity that I could read in their Day 1 posts.
4. It's not "siding with Foxcastle" that pings me there. It's trying to discredit me in a lazy way without engaging with the subject matter. And yes, you fit into that slot as well.

ngl I dont think there's much we can pull from Dousing for D1 he didnt really talk much he had to go pretty early
Its really hard to side with FoxCastle without arguing against you, which you keep taking as discrediting you; we just dont trust your opinion on FoxCastle thats it!

[Balki Bartokomous]

scummy post about a towny player

scummy post about a town player

Scummy post by merit of scum posting it.

I pictured you being better at wolfing than this. I don't think this is very good.

[sweetandcool]

I am open to a sweetandcool flashwagon and I think it would be fun.

Honestly I don't understand this community.

Every game practically I am super townie and pretty good at catching scum. Regardless of my alignment. And it's a struggle to survive.

This game I am scummy as heck and barely anyone is bothering to vote or push me.

At least my town reads have been top notch, too bad that seems to be a death sentence this game. Why are we determined to DK Town? The NK is meant to be controlled by Mafia. Town is supposed to control the DK.

[Bonatogether]

Why did you shoot damo. It was pretty clear the two eod wagons were town. This is what happens when you don't listen to me.

flum is my icon

Buddying successful for now, you can be town

mission success

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Update on mech/setup:
There are, surprisingly, only two vig PRs. One is a janitor, the other is a 2-shot. As damo was not janitored, we can assume that the vig still has a shot left. Take that how you will.

@vig take another shot

Archery Fighter can only take on shot each day phase. I do think I've figured out who the vig is, though.

[Bonatogether]

I guess the good thing about this is that whoever shot is Townclear. No way Mafia makes that shot.

Might as well claim the kill, I think, assuming no powers left.

lmao??

I missed this my first go around. wtf sweet

lisan al-flum speaks the truth again

[Bonatogether]

I've also never played with MadMonarch before. Is she usually a lurker or is this out of character?

that's macca

[Balki Bartokomous]

I am open to a sweetandcool flashwagon and I think it would be fun.

Honestly I don't understand this community.

Every game practically I am super townie and pretty good at catching scum. Regardless of my alignment. And it's a struggle to survive.

This game I am scummy as heck and barely anyone is bothering to vote or push me.

At least my town reads have been top notch, too bad that seems to be a death sentence this game. Why are we determined to DK Town? The NK is meant to be controlled by Mafia. Town is supposed to control the DK.

Hmmmm...

I agree that the day vote vibes are generally wack this game, but it's only Day 2 and it's a MASSIVE game. I'm confused by what you're complaining about here though. Are you complaining that people are not voting for you after I signaled that I would vote for you? Or are you complaining that I am willing to vote for you?

And then why do you say "it seems to be a death sentence this game" while also saying "barely anyone is bothering to vote or push" you?

What are you saying?

[Bonatogether]

Hmmm, probably four Town on fisch.

I should show respect and make the team play.

##VOTE lfischl

It's not a bad wagon, but I'm unsure what we will learn.

there's no i in team. fake!

[Yoyoyozo]

Okay back to work I go! Seriously this time so it’ll be a few hours before I’m back. If you guys see me online, yell at me lol.

I told y’all to do one thing

[Bonatogether]

I'm not loving the Jamiet wagon taking off after he left, and I don't feel like those votes are well justified.

scummy post about a towny player

scummy post about a town player

echo?

[FlaviusAetius]

Guys get off Dip!!

Why? You cant just say that without actually giving a reason; he's a viable contender he only makes sense tho if Ghug is also mafia...which is why we should go for Ghug

[FlaviusAetius]

And YES I realize you are voting Ghug with me right now, but I want to know why YOU chose to vote for Ghug

[Bonatogether]

Update on mech/setup:
There are, surprisingly, only two vig PRs. One is a janitor, the other is a 2-shot. As damo was not janitored, we can assume that the vig still has a shot left. Take that how you will.

@vig take another shot

Archery Fighter can only take on shot each day phase. I do think I've figured out who the vig is, though.

i love it when people talk about who the prs are

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I am now caught up.
I'm a bit disappointed in the current wagons (both myself and others) as none are quoting much evidence.
Still open to flashwagoning bunny or balki.

[Bonatogether]

people of the web: i have caught up

many posts were read, and much of them were cringe

only i have managed to avoid being dubbed a lame-o, except for braincomb and darg

[Balki Bartokomous]

I am now caught up.
I'm a bit disappointed in the current wagons (both myself and others) as none are quoting much evidence.
Still open to flashwagoning bunny or balki.

How about Sweet or Dousing? What are your thoughts there?

[FlaviusAetius]

@dip voters
Why not ghug first? Will you vote ghug if Dip flips?

@fischl voters
Why this lurker? Why vote a lurker NOW?