M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Balki Bartokomous]

I’m going to ##vote ghug.

No, I’m not.

##unvote

@ghug, please solve the game.

##vote Sweet?

And what's the point of voting ghug, unvoting here, and question mark voting sweet?

Seems like you want to make sure we see that you are confused... why?

TRUE! Balki you said you would solve the game, it made me think you were actually paying attention to the game before you came in, and now...it seems you are just rolling around and not actually solving the game but shifting from person to person and bringing everyone else along with you

I definitely was not paying attention to the game before I subbed in. Hadn't read one word.

And your concept that I am "bringing everyone along with you" is silly. You are one of the people who has tried to discredit me.

In any event, I do think it is valuable for us to have a broader focus in general than we've had.

[BunnyGo]

I’m still only on page 116 and unlikely to catch-up before EOD.

Can anyone summarize Kay new things? Maybe the ghug wagon?

##vote diplo

There is no way bunny biffs it so badly.

##VOTE Bunny

Biffs? I did all this while walking to pick up my kids and now negotiating after school activities.

[ghug]

You just want someone else to do it...

Ghug why are you a wagon

You did nothing to be tr or sr

Wat hapen

He's a wagon because he's voting for someone that I don't think he should be scumreading. 2/3 people on his wagon are me and the person he voted.
Flavius voted him for "pressure" early d2. Never verified whatever crap he wanted to investigate in Kak's history.
(I do think it's more likely Flav is scum too after looking into this. His play reeks to my nose).

IIRC Ghug usually wanted to consolidate d1, or if not move himself he would get others to sheep him onto his read. I didn't feel that happened as much this game. To see him do a similar thing this phase with him dumping his vote onto Dousing? Very sus.
I think today should be Ghug vs Flav.

Do you have recollections of me behaving differently around EoD as scum?

[BunnyGo]

And was in 5 hours of straight meetings before this. So I really have no idea what’s up with sweet

[ghug]

Ghug why are you a wagon

You did nothing to be tr or sr

Wat hapen

He's a wagon because he's voting for someone that I don't think he should be scumreading. 2/3 people on his wagon are me and the person he voted.
Flavius voted him for "pressure" early d2. Never verified whatever crap he wanted to investigate in Kak's history.
(I do think it's more likely Flav is scum too after looking into this. His play reeks to my nose).

IIRC Ghug usually wanted to consolidate d1, or if not move himself he would get others to sheep him onto his read. I didn't feel that happened as much this game. To see him do a similar thing this phase with him dumping his vote onto Dousing? Very sus.
I think today should be Ghug vs Flav.

Yes I did I laid out three or four reasons why we should be voting ghug, me and ghug went back and forth on it, he stopped responding to me

You stopped responding to me.

[Jamiet99uk]

Flum and Ghug are either wrong town or scum who see me as an easy kill.

They have both got a history of offing me when I'm town.

[ghug]

Did you read my post?

Yes but I want you to consider it a little harder.

Why don’t you just say that instead of asking me why when I answered the why lol…

I thought maybe I'd jog something loose.

[Jamiet99uk]

Good luck town

[FlaviusAetius]

I dunno. What is the best way?

You think ghug is mafia but you dont want to vote him??? Make this make sense please

ghug is a fequent NK target. Maybe the most frequent. That means that laying off him for a few days means (1) scum is more likely to sort him for us in the event he is Town, and (2) we gain more information about his long-term survival than we do about other slots in the event he is Scum.

Too many of your arguments are based on meta, what are your actual reasons for voting for people for reasons based on THIS game. Not PREVIOUS games. I thought you agreed with Foxcastle you'd focus on THIS game moving forward

[ghug]

What is the case on ghug?

My case on ghug is odd. I feel that he usually reads the game similarly to me. I think we usually react similarly to the same posts on the little stuff, and when we disagree he's usually better about explaining himself so I can at least understand where he's coming from.

My reaction to dousing is exactly the opposite to him, unless Dousing is a Xorxes level player that we'd expect to have solved the game already.

This feels earnest from Ezio even though his reads suck.

[FlaviusAetius]

He's a wagon because he's voting for someone that I don't think he should be scumreading. 2/3 people on his wagon are me and the person he voted.
Flavius voted him for "pressure" early d2. Never verified whatever crap he wanted to investigate in Kak's history.
(I do think it's more likely Flav is scum too after looking into this. His play reeks to my nose).

IIRC Ghug usually wanted to consolidate d1, or if not move himself he would get others to sheep him onto his read. I didn't feel that happened as much this game. To see him do a similar thing this phase with him dumping his vote onto Dousing? Very sus.
I think today should be Ghug vs Flav.

Yes I did I laid out three or four reasons why we should be voting ghug, me and ghug went back and forth on it, he stopped responding to me

You stopped responding to me.

Where's your latest response I'll respond to it right now I cant find it, and Im not sure why on the earth the website wont let me control F the entire D2 until the day is OVER its so hard to find things

[ghug]

I'm going to assume some idiot towny just vigged damo.

I'm super glad he played it right! I thought he was a PR, but he was too obvious about it, he was thinking one level above me, a VT roleplaying as a PR roleplaying as a VT/scum.

Well done damo, it's too bad it was all in vain.

Ezio is always the correct vig shot.

Has a vig *ever* been correct in shooting me?

Your role is irrelevant.

[aarodactyl]

Flavius literally got offended by my townread of him. That is not scum behavior.

I'm willing to give pass to people who pushed damo only on day 1, but the people pushing him today are on thin ice.

I have NO recollection of this; what on earth are you talking about? Why would I be OFFENDED that you are thinking Im a townie? This doesnt make any sense and I dont know why you keep making it, show me where it happened or I dont believe you

Seriously why is anyone voting for this guy?

Yeah. It’s getting to the point where the frustration feels so over the top that, while I hope it’s fake, it’s probably not. I’m going to catch up and then try to reread a bit if I have time. I should be around for eod so I’m not feeling a rush to change my vote yet.

[ghug]

Dayum.

RIP Damo.

##VOTE Jamma Sam

Ghug and I finally agree on something?

I am trying not to let the paranoia creep in.

[Squigs44]

I will be hosting a pub quiz tonight and may not be on at EOD.

I see the Lfrishl wagon has crumbled.

##Vote Diplomacyand for reasons previously articulated.

Crumbled? That's not quite how I would have characterized it

[ghug]

I just want to be very repetitive and clear. I do not suspect Fox in this game for “doing analysis without actual analysis.” Perhaps I read him that way for those reasons in games from many years ago, but that is not the source of my suspicion here.

I suspect Fox in this game for low-risk, poorly thought-out votes and what appeared to be a purposeful attempt to exist in the blind spots of the game.

Just because I correctly scumread Fox in some but not all games years ago does not mean I should be ignored here, and I don’t like that Fox’s response was to try to discredit me in this way without engaging with my argument in this game.

I also don’t like your attempt to make this all conventional wisdom. I feel like the motivation of your post is to discredit me, and I think that’s a motivation that is more consistent with scum than town.

##vote Flavius

The stubbornness is a good look here for Balki, but I hate the vote.

You hate it because you think Flavor Flav is Town? Don't you think he's mayyyyybe scum?

He's tied for top townread with D&W.

[aarodactyl]

This is a list of players currently alive. I feel like it's worth a refresher. Our focus remains very narrow.

1. Yoyo
2. Balki
3. JustAGuyNamedWill
4. Jamiet99uk
5. Bonatogether
8. Dousing
9. foodcoats
10. BunnyGo
11. ghug
12. Ezio
13. FlaviusAetius
14. DiplomacyandWarfare
16. Worcej
17. lfischl
18. Vecna
19. foxcastle
20. TheMadMonarch
21. DemonRHK
22. Col7by
23. Squiggs44
24. sweetandcool
25. fluminator
26. aarodactyl

The fact that you left the numbers as they were in the signup is slightly cursed.

[Squigs44]

##VOTE Jamma Sam

Ghug and I finally agree on something?

I am trying not to let the paranoia creep in.

I see this as a positive, if we disagree on lots of things but then agree on one thing, I think I trust that one thing more

[Ezio]

Ghug why are you a wagon

You did nothing to be tr or sr

Wat hapen

He's a wagon because he's voting for someone that I don't think he should be scumreading. 2/3 people on his wagon are me and the person he voted.
Flavius voted him for "pressure" early d2. Never verified whatever crap he wanted to investigate in Kak's history.
(I do think it's more likely Flav is scum too after looking into this. His play reeks to my nose).

IIRC Ghug usually wanted to consolidate d1, or if not move himself he would get others to sheep him onto his read. I didn't feel that happened as much this game. To see him do a similar thing this phase with him dumping his vote onto Dousing? Very sus.
I think today should be Ghug vs Flav.

Do you have recollections of me behaving differently around EoD as scum?

I think so? I feel like you did more anchoring but less pushing. I'm struggling to recall any specific example of this, and the IRL excuse is valid.
It's been a year since my last game though, and then a few years before that? Tough to find. Other people are probably more up on the Ghug meta than I am.

[ghug]

Flum and Ghug are either wrong town or scum who see me as an easy kill.

They have both got a history of offing me when I'm town.

Do you think it's surprising that people would scumread you right now?