M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Foxcastle]

I think the vig is mafia aligned. From a meta perspective it makes sense since the max total players from setup was 23 and we started with 26.

Why would they shoot Damo if he was likely to be miskilled anyway? I don't understand your point about max players?

I know what you’re getting at, I think it’s better that no one claims vig because that will just mislead people down the line. Better to spell it out here.

I agree that no one should claim vig. I just didn't get what you meant about the number of players.

[Vecna]

Up to page 93. I think Flav is town and Vecna is possibly scum.

did you already feel this way during d1? when/where did you start feeling this way?

I have felt good about Flav being town from early on, yes. That is specifically a reaction to the pages between when I last posted prior to page 93 and page 93.

im more interested in the read on me. sorry for not being more clear, but i did not get the feeling at all you were scumreading me d1

[Yoyoyozo]

I want to hear from Fox, Balki, ghug, and Ezio

What do you want to hear?

That you love me and think I’m handsome, to start.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

More or less. I am analyzing this to show that the vig should not reveal.

Why is balki pushing for a vig reveal?/

What on Earth?

Did i misintepret? It looked like u were trying to get the vig to reveal

[Foxcastle]

I don’t think we need to analyze this unless and until somebody claims this shot and explains why they took it, right?

More or less. I am analyzing this to show that the vig should not reveal.

Why is balki pushing for a vig reveal?/

I feel more like Dip is pushing to make this a Thing in the hopes that it becomes a push for a vig reveal.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Why is balki pushing for a vig reveal?/

What on Earth?

Did i misintepret? It looked like u were trying to get the vig to reveal

You misinterpreted. And you phrased your misinterpretation in a flinging shade sort of way.

[Foxcastle]

did you already feel this way during d1? when/where did you start feeling this way?

I have felt good about Flav being town from early on, yes. That is specifically a reaction to the pages between when I last posted prior to page 93 and page 93.

im more interested in the read on me. sorry for not being more clear, but i did not get the feeling at all you were scumreading me d1

Oh, I wasn't. I didn't take notes or anything, but my recollection is that as I was catching up you just seemed to consistent.

[Jamiet99uk]

Mia: Hey guys, what is this quest for the Rite of Thorns?

Kyle: The what?

Mia: The one with Locke?

Kyle: Who?

An arrow lets loose

Damo666 has died he was Locke of the Harpers, a Vanilla Town

The fuck?

[Jamiet99uk]

Dayum.

RIP Damo.

[Foxcastle]

I have felt good about Flav being town from early on, yes. That is specifically a reaction to the pages between when I last posted prior to page 93 and page 93.

im more interested in the read on me. sorry for not being more clear, but i did not get the feeling at all you were scumreading me d1

Oh, I wasn't. I didn't take notes or anything, but my recollection is that as I was catching up you just seemed to consistent.

Ugh. Mixing up to/too is one of those things that makes me tempted to edit my post despite the consequences.

[Squigs44]

Mia: Hey guys, what is this quest for the Rite of Thorns?

Kyle: The what?

Mia: The one with Locke?

Kyle: Who?

An arrow lets loose

Damo666 has died he was Locke of the Harpers, a Vanilla Town

The fuck?

That's about the reaction I would expect to get from Jamie when he realizes he needs a new strategy and can't tunnel damo anymore

[Jamiet99uk]

Thank God we had a dayvig and didn't waste an entire day on a runaway damo wagon. Can we use this flip to actually get some good wagons going now?

Jamie I'd like to know your Vecna thoughts now?

He's obvscum!

Read his posts!

(I'm joking of course, give me a moment to collect my thoughts. I'm surprised at Damo dying).

[sweetandcool]

I think the vig is mafia aligned. From a meta perspective it makes sense since the max total players from setup was 23 and we started with 26.

Huh?

[Balki Bartokomous]

I feel like this is another time when ghug should be saying the things that I am thinking.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can I convince anyone to join me on lfischl. Dudes lurking, but also his bona read was inconsistent and he keeps promising to catch up and post reads but doesn't, and then gave an excuse about his dog getting sick (which I'd feel bad about if true). But his posts just look like he's choosing to be a lurker rather than being busy, which points me more towards scum lfischl than town lfischl

I like pressure votes, sure/

##Vote Lfischl.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm going to take just a moment to make it clear PRs should not reveal unless they have a very good reason:
Case 1: PRs are scum
There are currently 24 living players: 14 VT, 5 town PRs, 3 scum PRs, 2 goons. 8 are PRs, 16 are not.
3/8 PRs are scum, so a PR has a 3/8 chance to be scum.
2/16 non-PRs are scum, so a non-PR has a 1/8 chance to be scum.
5/24 players are scum, so someone who hasn't been specified as either PR or not PR has a 5/24, or roughly 1/5, chance to be scum.
Therefore, anyone who claims PR is more likely to be scum than someone who doesn't. Therefore, town PRs should not claim PR.
Case 2: We need our PRs
This setup is, unfortunately, very swingy. There are roles like Arcane Trickster, Bardic Inspiration, and Wild Magic that are very weak as town and very strong as scum, roles like Light Cleric/Enchantment (alignment cop) and Unarmored Defense Barbarian hat are good for town but weak as scum. This setup has a potential to get very out of hand if mafia have strong PRs. Don't reveal just to make a point.
Case 3: The Tadpole Problem
For those of you who didn't read the setup, the mafia can once per game instead of nightkilling during the night give a town player a tadpole. That player will then have to choose whether to accept and become mafia (keeping any PR abilities they might have) or deny the recruitment. Mafia must use this ability during one of the first 4 nights.
Mafia will probably want to recruit a PR who is at least mostly towncleared. Revealing PR might seem like a great oppurtunity to get recruited. However, having revealed you are a PR, town will know you are a PR and therefore a potential recruitment target. Daykilling you would be pointless because we couldn't be certain you had been recruited. As a result, you might simply be ignored for the rest of the game.
Let this be a cautionary tale. Do not reveal PR unless you have a VERY GOOD reason.

What made you decide to post this?

Did you suddenly become afraid we were all going to start mass-claiming?

[Jamiet99uk]

could I request you add the return key/carriage to your speed typing skills?

… did you just call the enter key the carriage key???

BunnyGo learned to type in 1899.

[Jamiet99uk]

Update on mech/setup:
There are, surprisingly, only two vig PRs. One is a janitor, the other is a 2-shot. As damo was not janitored, we can assume that the vig still has a shot left. Take that how you will.

Why are you suddenly being obsessed with the mechanics?

[sweetandcool]

The big thing we just learned is that Day 1 was very Low Hanging Town Fruit vs Low Hanging Town Fruit.

We already knew it.

It was painfully clear that Ham and damo were Town. Now I assume we'll push the last clear Town off the cliff, Dip.

##VOTE Fox

[Jamiet99uk]

I know you’re asking Jamie but I should contribute to this because I agree with Jamie that Damo is obvscum.

Damo’s tonal range is very flat as town. He is “unflappable.” He is more “extremified” when scum. In the past I have IDd him based on jokes, and also illogicalities that he would not make as town, because as town he is exceedingly objective.

Here we have seen him act obtuse and not explain his actions, where typical town damo is incredibly straightforward and direct.

Foochcoats obv town even if he has some hot takes

##VOTE DAMO

Damo was dead when you cast this vote.