M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Squigs44]

Thank God we had a dayvig and didn't waste an entire day on a runaway damo wagon. Can we use this flip to actually get some good wagons going now?

Jamie I'd like to know your Vecna thoughts now?
Fox, is food still scumslipping with town damo?

Um no. Vigs should focus on eliminating the enemy faction. Killing town in order to save time cuts the amount of playing time we have left. We now have one less day to eliminate mafia, Damo could have been a PR waiting to claim until later. The drawbacks outweigh the benefits in this situation.

Damo was widely scumread, so I think it was as good as any shot from a scumhunting perspective. It just came with the fallback benefit of saving us from a useless day of a damo wagon if he were town.
If he were scum, it would have been a fantastic shot tho

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Update on mech/setup:
There are, surprisingly, only two vig PRs. One is a janitor, the other is a 2-shot. As damo was not janitored, we can assume that the vig still has a shot left. Take that how you will.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Forgive me, I did not notice this question.

Yes I have.

To me Damo is pretty consistent across all games, so what's different about Damo this time that has you tunneling in him?

I know you’re asking Jamie but I should contribute to this because I agree with Jamie that Damo is obvscum.

Damo’s tonal range is very flat as town. He is “unflappable.” He is more “extremified” when scum. In the past I have IDd him based on jokes, and also illogicalities that he would not make as town, because as town he is exceedingly objective.

Here we have seen him act obtuse and not explain his actions, where typical town damo is incredibly straightforward and direct.

Foochcoats obv town even if he has some hot takes

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

To me Damo is pretty consistent across all games, so what's different about Damo this time that has you tunneling in him?

I know you’re asking Jamie but I should contribute to this because I agree with Jamie that Damo is obvscum.

Damo’s tonal range is very flat as town. He is “unflappable.” He is more “extremified” when scum. In the past I have IDd him based on jokes, and also illogicalities that he would not make as town, because as town he is exceedingly objective.

Here we have seen him act obtuse and not explain his actions, where typical town damo is incredibly straightforward and direct.

Foochcoats obv town even if he has some hot takes

##VOTE DAMO

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I know you’re asking Jamie but I should contribute to this because I agree with Jamie that Damo is obvscum.

Damo’s tonal range is very flat as town. He is “unflappable.” He is more “extremified” when scum. In the past I have IDd him based on jokes, and also illogicalities that he would not make as town, because as town he is exceedingly objective.

Here we have seen him act obtuse and not explain his actions, where typical town damo is incredibly straightforward and direct.

Foochcoats obv town even if he has some hot takes

##VOTE DAMO

##VOTE BUNNY

Nay, swayed by the masses. Who am I?

[aarodactyl]

Is there any chance foodcoats is scum and damo is town?

5/24

Can you show your work here? I have no idea how the math checks out

[brainbomb]

Tonight on a special episode of Law and Order
A big city lawyer comes face to face with his biggest client yet: Scratch, the loveable snarling wolf.


Vote Count Day 2
ghug (3) FlaviusAetius Dousing Ezio
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) DemonRHK* worcej
lfischl (2) Squigs44 Fluminator
FlaviusAetius (2) Bonatogether aarodactyl
Balki Bartokomous (2) DiplomacyandWarfare sweetandcool
Ezio (1) Yoyoyozo
Dousing (1) ghug
BunnyGo (1) JustAGuyNamedWill

Non-votes
Vecna

Unvote (8) BunnyGo Balki Bartokomous Col7by lfischl foodcoats TheMadMonarch Foxcastle Jamiet99uk

ghug is scheduled to be eliminated
6 hours remain

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I know you’re asking Jamie but I should contribute to this because I agree with Jamie that Damo is obvscum.

Damo’s tonal range is very flat as town. He is “unflappable.” He is more “extremified” when scum. In the past I have IDd him based on jokes, and also illogicalities that he would not make as town, because as town he is exceedingly objective.

Here we have seen him act obtuse and not explain his actions, where typical town damo is incredibly straightforward and direct.

Foochcoats obv town even if he has some hot takes

##VOTE DAMO

Will, pay attention. Damo got vigged.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Is there any chance foodcoats is scum and damo is town?

5/24

Can you show your work here? I have no idea how the math checks out

That would be approximately the chance of a random person being scum.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I dont understand why we HAVE to kill a lurker TODAY. Its like taking a shot in the dark, we just need to do a better job pressuring them to talk

What do we gain by leaving a lurker alive?
What do we gain by leaving an active player alive?

This cold logic always seems to be chastised/dismissed in prior games and I’ll be curious to see if that has happened yet.

Hard agree w worcej here

There are active and inactive mafia, i’d almost guarantee it in every mafia game, plus killing inactives just because they are *inactive* leads to apathy, easy mks for werewolves, an an overall bad town

That was my ted talk, that you and goodnight

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Here's my theory: Damo is scum. Foodcoats slipped up an crossposted his "WOOO" to the wrong thread and then tried to play it off. Foodcoats is now bussing Damo to further cover his tracks.

Foxy finally getting spicy

Can somebody point me to the WOOOOOO?

[Vecna]

Gotta be Ezio, you filthy kinslayer.

Nah...aaro really wants to get back to work; I think he'd thank me.

I think I’m caught up on both work and this game thread. Should have plenty of time to go on my phone at work tomorrow and actually play this game. It’s really teaching me why I should only do 5pm pst eod times.

if youre up to date, thats a lot of time reading. why not spebt some more of that time typing out posts? this aint book readibg club

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@Squiggs: On D1 I thought Damo was being surly in a way that was going to attract attention, a thing scum don't want to do, so based on that I concluded he wasn't scum.

The foodcoats made his "WOOO" post, and the only way that makes sense to me is if he was celebrating a scum victory in a TvS EOD, ergo, Damo is scum.

Also, while I thought Damo was being too blatant about it to be scum, surly Damo has been scum-Damo in the past.

This is actually a great take

Also there is food, flum, flav, fox

So many F’s!

[Yoyoyozo]

I think the vig is mafia aligned. From a meta perspective it makes sense since the max total players from setup was 23 and we started with 26.

[aarodactyl]

Is there any chance foodcoats is scum and damo is town?

5/24

Can you show your work here? I have no idea how the math checks out

Just saw he was vigged. I guess I’ll never know how.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

That's actually town points for Vecna not realizing Kak was one of the highest profile players this game. I think if he was mafia he'd objectively recognize that lol.

or maybe its looking rather poorly on those overestimating the actual influence he was having.

Vecna undoing (or at least trying to) undo towncred is towny

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Calling my voters:

What do you think you'll learn when I flip town? I'll tell you. Nada.

If I were scum being so 'obvscum' don't you think my teammates would have bussed me rather than save me.

Fact of the matter is it was TvT and town largely did scum's work for them.

The only contenders for having been saved are Flav and Flum.

If I am the day's miskill then if they survive N2 look very closely at Bona and ghug.

##vote Bona

Leavin this here cuz someone said damo got vigged

[Squigs44]

I think the vig is mafia aligned. From a meta perspective it makes sense since the max total players from setup was 23 and we started with 26.

Why would scum vig shoot damo?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Mia: Hey guys, what is this quest for the Rite of Thorns?

Kyle: The what?

Mia: The one with Locke?

Kyle: Who?

An arrow lets loose

Damo666 has died he was Locke of the Harpers, a Vanilla Town

Rip

[Yoyoyozo]

I think the vig is mafia aligned. From a meta perspective it makes sense since the max total players from setup was 23 and we started with 26.

Why would scum vig shoot damo?

So they can claim later.