M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[sweetandcool]

Proof Fox is Mafia:

"What I learned from last game is that your style of play just gets my attention in the wrong way and I need to learn other ways to read you. That's what I meant when I suggested we avoid last game's debacle."

"I mean, it's kind of the same, but I'm the one who has deliberately not scumread you. No offense, something about the way you type in these games makes me think you're scum in my very bones. Thus we had an enormous ongoing battle in the first game we played together. But then I reflected on the experience and learned, and so now I don't use that as the basis for my assessment of you."

[Ezio]

Hey, killed a golem, got some sweet ass armor. Much savescumming involved.

Anyway

CASE AGAINST D&W CHERRY PICKED TO HELL JUST TO FIT MY NARRATIVE

vibe check! Will, who would you vote RIGHT NOW? Why aren't you voting anyone?

I'll answer your question because you didn't ask me:
##VOTE KAKARROTO

Out the jump, voting a townie. Obvscum.
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To be clear, I am claiming ghug is powerwolfing by the following definition:

powerwolf. v,
1. To make aggressive statements and directly or indirectly pressure others to agree with those statements as mafia

This is definitely not something town should be doing, as it discourages open communication and problem-solving.

I didn't realize you were a Jamie-accredited simpleton.

Ghug being aggressive and shaming bona

FOUR separate times on D1 D&DW accused ghug of powerwolfing, NOT ONCE was a vote ever cast.

Speaking of:

##VOTE BUNNY
##END

ghug ending on bunny for a funny, if a bit distracting, gimmick

This is part of D&Ws implication on ghug, yet on the VERY NEXT PAGE:

You're not any longer; please don't suggest you didn't make that play though.

Seriously? You're complaining that I ended on will for playing Among Us? Obviously, that was a very serious vote and not a joke.

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Next, D&W attempting to cool the earth down SINGLEHANDEDLY via damo wagon shade:

Can someone explain the damo wagon to me?

Has there been a single case made on Damo yet?

I agree. The damo wagon doesn't really have any evidence.

Here's my theory: damo is town and the wagon on him contains scum trying to stop the Hamilton wagon.

If you disagree, please quote something scummy damo has said and explain how that post is scummy.

worcej Squigs44 Jamiet99uk DemonRHK Dousing foodcoats
At least two of the above people (currently wagoning damo) are scum.

He's attempting to hammer someone and repeatedly refusing to provide any argument beyond "his posts are obviously scummy" which looks like scum!damo in bussing mode.

This has been explained.

Now it has. Before it kind of wasn't.
Ham is like 92% scum. Damo is like 83% town.

Rereading damo's posts via bot it seems like he's just behind. Jamiet, you said damo is repeatedly not responding to questions. Is there any evidence that he just hasn't read them yet?

Then, less than 10 minutes post HB's flip, D&W is suddenly all "WHY OH WHY DID WE NOT GET DAMO!? WE MUST GET HIM TOMORROW."

If anyone hast he ability as a PR to kill damo, DO IT

???
Why wouldn't we just wagon damo tomorrow and save the vig action?

Hmm. Does a PR kill Demon tonight and we wagon Damo tomorrow, or does a PR kill Damo tonight and we wagon Demon tomorrow? So many options...

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Finally, after the flip, D&W has been very quiet, and made THIS clunker:

Kak being town isn't a surprise to me, and I'm not having a hard time reading the kill.
Kak was very upset with me over a bad plan at the beginning of the game that kak and Fluminator created. Kak was demanding it was entirely Fluminator, while I thought kak had extrapolated Flum's bad idea to a terrible one. Kak and I also disagreed on a few other things (including but not limited to Flum's alignment). Kak was variously either scumreading me or suggesting I was playing terrible town. I, on the other hand, though Kak was town and was just tunnelling Flum and me.
The mafia might be hoping that we miskill one of Kak's scumreads today (or they might be hoping we think as much, and there we get WIFOM). I suspect this indicates most if not all of kak's scumreads are town (reading a town's scumreads as town may seem counterintuitive, but I'm solving from my perspective, not yours. This makes a lot of sense once you consider me and kak's history and accept that I'm town). I will, however, look into Kak's scumreads. Some of them might be right.
For now, I still scumread sweet. ##VOTE SWEET

In addition to the very first post I quoted, here are some more winners:

Kak, you dropped your pocket.

ooop I misspelled kaks name
##VOTE KAKARROTO

hard agree with dipandwar here, we don't to give mafia any more advantages.

Ok I may be biased because he agreed with me, but kak's whole "everyone say if they would accept a tadpole" routine was scummy and needed to be shut down.

I think this is a great reason why Kak isn't scum, actually. Actual scum would think this through just like this, determine that they're probably going to to get heat for suggesting it, realize that town might just lie, and so it's not worth it. The scum team is much more likely to discuss who they think is the best player that they can successfully turn is rather than relying on anything that anyone has said in the thread about accepting a tadpole.

Maybe, but even if that didn't indicate kak was scum, it was still a bad plan for town to follow.

This is probably not the best time, but I teamsolve sweet, ghug, (either damo or HB), food, and Kak.

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The play is bog standard HYPOCROCY.
Trying to change the narrative, rules for thee, and called out by a dead confirmed towny.
SEND D&W TO THE GODDAMN GULAG

I completely agree that D&W has played like absolute shit this game. Does this play make any sense as mafia either? Where's the scum motivation/likelihood?

[Ezio]

Also, I think Ezio and lfischl are unlikely to be scum.

Why?

[Ezio]

Sweet is confusing me, they seem like their throwing. Admittedly, they said they'd do as much in the signup thread. Either way it's kinda tainting their arguments in an undue negative light.

For example, I really like what they said about Bunny (http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=406327#p406327) but then they start voting for a dead Kak???

To use a terrible analogy: Sweet is kinda like the Kanye West of this game thread.

##VOTE Dousing

What's up with this vote Ghug?

[sweetandcool]

Proof Fox is Mafia:

"What I learned from last game is that your style of play just gets my attention in the wrong way and I need to learn other ways to read you. That's what I meant when I suggested we avoid last game's debacle."

"I mean, it's kind of the same, but I'm the one who has deliberately not scumread you. No offense, something about the way you type in these games makes me think you're scum in my very bones. Thus we had an enormous ongoing battle in the first game we played together. But then I reflected on the experience and learned, and so now I don't use that as the basis for my assessment of you."

Also Fox willfully pretending I am anything like I was in my first game.

[Ezio]

Yea Dousing is absolutely town.
##Vote Ghug. How are you reading this guy and thinking he's mafia?

[DemonRHK]

ly agree that D&W has played like absolute shit this game. Does this play make any sense as mafia either? Where's the scum motivation/likelihood?

Dunno. Don't care. He's slimy, and he's scummy. And I think the kill was for a PR hunt.

A&W FOR EVERYONE IF WE GET D&W!

(Disclaimer: I am legally and morally required to disclose this is not an actual redeemable offer of edible compensation for voting with me. The Mafia Kouncol would like to remind that using out of game influences to affect in game actions is expressly forbidden. Any aquistion of moderate to good fast food branded after root beer and the delicious milkshakes I continue to consume despite my lactose-hating body's cries for mercy are solely at your own cost.)

[Ezio]

ly agree that D&W has played like absolute shit this game. Does this play make any sense as mafia either? Where's the scum motivation/likelihood?

Dunno. Don't care. He's slimy, and he's scummy. And I think the kill was for a PR hunt.

A&W FOR EVERYONE IF WE GET D&W!

(Disclaimer: I am legally and morally required to disclose this is not an actual redeemable offer of edible compensation for voting with me. The Mafia Kouncol would like to remind that using out of game influences to affect in game actions is expressly forbidden. Any aquistion of moderate to good fast food branded after root beer and the delicious milkshakes I continue to consume despite my lactose-hating body's cries for mercy are solely at your own cost.)

What's A&W?

[DemonRHK]

ly agree that D&W has played like absolute shit this game. Does this play make any sense as mafia either? Where's the scum motivation/likelihood?

Dunno. Don't care. He's slimy, and he's scummy. And I think the kill was for a PR hunt.

A&W FOR EVERYONE IF WE GET D&W!

(Disclaimer: I am legally and morally required to disclose this is not an actual redeemable offer of edible compensation for voting with me. The Mafia Kouncol would like to remind that using out of game influences to affect in game actions is expressly forbidden. Any aquistion of moderate to good fast food branded after root beer and the delicious milkshakes I continue to consume despite my lactose-hating body's cries for mercy are solely at your own cost.)

What's A&W?

Fast food. Usually paired up with Long John Silvers here.
https://awrestaurants.com/

[Ezio]

ly agree that D&W has played like absolute shit this game. Does this play make any sense as mafia either? Where's the scum motivation/likelihood?

Dunno. Don't care. He's slimy, and he's scummy. And I think the kill was for a PR hunt.

A&W FOR EVERYONE IF WE GET D&W!

(Disclaimer: I am legally and morally required to disclose this is not an actual redeemable offer of edible compensation for voting with me. The Mafia Kouncol would like to remind that using out of game influences to affect in game actions is expressly forbidden. Any aquistion of moderate to good fast food branded after root beer and the delicious milkshakes I continue to consume despite my lactose-hating body's cries for mercy are solely at your own cost.)

And then the more relevant part: how does the kill being a PR hunt indicate that DnW is mafia?
I must have missed that part of the argument.

[DemonRHK]

1) Respect the dead. Kak wanted D&W.
2) It kinda doesn't. But D&W's hard on for kak into claiming he knew he was town all along on D2 is a textbook distance attempt, esp. when I've gone full rabid dog and there was a call for him.
3) D&W played no small part in HB flipping instead of damo, then immediately hedged the defense post flip.
4) Respect the dead.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Dunno. Don't care. He's slimy, and he's scummy. And I think the kill was for a PR hunt.

A&W FOR EVERYONE IF WE GET D&W!

(Disclaimer: I am legally and morally required to disclose this is not an actual redeemable offer of edible compensation for voting with me. The Mafia Kouncol would like to remind that using out of game influences to affect in game actions is expressly forbidden. Any aquistion of moderate to good fast food branded after root beer and the delicious milkshakes I continue to consume despite my lactose-hating body's cries for mercy are solely at your own cost.)

What's A&W?

Fast food. Usually paired up with Long John Silvers here.
https://awrestaurants.com/

No??? A and w is root beer

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Holy shit A&W fast food is a think

Whats next, Dr. Pepper selling chicken wings?????

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Holy shit A&W fast food is a think

Whats next, Dr. Pepper selling chicken wings?????

Is a thing*

[Bonatogether]

roo beer

[Bonatogether]

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

roo beer

Root beer is mid

La Croix on top

[Balki Bartokomous]

1) Respect the dead. Kak wanted D&W.
2) It kinda doesn't. But D&W's hard on for kak into claiming he knew he was town all along on D2 is a textbook distance attempt, esp. when I've gone full rabid dog and there was a call for him.
3) D&W played no small part in HB flipping instead of damo, then immediately hedged the defense post flip.
4) Respect the dead.

Can you elaborate on what you mean at point 2 here? What is “textbook distancing” to you?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Vecna, engage with me plz.

[Fluminator]

@Jamiet have you ever played with Damo before?