M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Kakarroto]

Save squigs
Scan D&W
Shoot Ezio
Transport Jamie and ghug
Hide behind yoyo
Equalize flav and balki
Neighbor visit kak
Roleblock Will
Bodyguard food

I'd welcome you with some eggs, ham, and a lot of cookies

[Yoyoyozo]

lol kak’s EON posts took a screenshot

[Vecna]

potential last thoughts:

Balki and Yoyo deserve expert attention
sweet really doesbt look that bad, but im still suspicious.
Jamiet might still be scum

[Kakarroto]

Flum - D&W - ghug - kotp/Balki - jamie

I think this has the highest possibility of being the mafia team right now.

If you ask me, why, I'll try to explain:

-) D&W looks to me connected to Flum, ghug and King Balki: he condemns me for what Flum did, tries to bend the narrative that it was me suggesting the whole tadpole thing, putting Flum at his highest/best read with his alignment chart, then go back with it all by saying it was just a joke. Puts ghug down as 'powerwolfing' while ghug's posts seemed mostly jokes - looks like TMI to me here. He also invents unfathomable justifications for townreading kotp early, trying to make his selfvote less awful that it is. Furthermore, the constant ignorance towards facts of D&W is just not a town thing to do, he is at least anti-town

-) Other than his awful suggestion about the tadpole, which he retracted much later as a 'joke', Flum feels suspicious to me. Saying that Brian, who gets often misvoted, obvtowns under pressure, then WHEN Brian actually puts towny stuff down ignoring it, just feels so disingenious. Hard townreads d&w, tries to disincentivising voting for him.

-) ghug hard towning d&w and defending him looks like a typical maf-ghug weakness here. Might be even that ghug is goon and d&w is a power mafia role. But ghug also shows his other tendency when he is mafia: wanting to be townread early. Town ghug usually wants to be more nebulous, mysterious, to not getting dk'ed early. In this game, ghug points out he has to be town, once because he wasn't naked in the last 12 hours (ok, first I thought that first one was but a joke), but also later, and that one looks not like a joke to me. That heavily hints we have a mafia ghug here, and is connected to d&w. Ghug's intend to 'try not to solve until day 4' is just atrocious and I doubt town ghug would ever feel that way.

-) kotp didn't do much, a few posts early, then voted no-kill, changed it to a self vote after I point out a rule. Itself not atypical for him, kotp usually isn't much involved as far as I've seen. But with the praise of d&w, him pushing kotp so high into town area, for him doing practically nothing, looks like a mafia trying to form a great opinion for a partner that has the opportunity to 'go dark' and coast a long, long time.

-) regarding jamie, from most of his actions and words, how he plays this game I would've said he is town ... BUT, his reaction, or rather non-reaction of kotp's selfvote is rather weird. I would've thought that town-jamie would vote kotp, call others to vote him too, to not voting for himself. I would've thought that maf-jamie would use this opportunity to go on to town-kotp, too, imitating townplay, which would've been quite easy, I think. But jamie not doing that is a big warning sign that both are mafia partners here. Maybe I'm wrong, and town-jamie just changed, but with the rest what I've seen of jamie, I don't get that feeling, he is good old jamie.


I do think that the hardest connection is between d&w and ghug, as is between d&w and flum. The d&w connection to kotp is rather weak, and is only inforced with jamie's (non)reaction. Thus I think we should vote out d&w tomorrow.

I also think, if King Balki flips town, jamie is most likely not mafia, so in this 5-man team, he should be targeted last. Ghug could be mafia without d&w, as could flum, and d&w just be awful town. Nonetheless, I think this is the most likely mafia team from a connections point of view.


Other people who I think have a chance to be mafia here:

damo, though very small. Mostly, he feels different. I think, we need to figure him out earlier than later, but I think we can afford to give him some time, maybe a day or two, or three, to get rolling. But if this keeps on, and my previous maf-team turns out wrong, we should consider voting him. But I just don't see this 'obvmafia' some people are putting on him.

Bunny doesn't feel too good to me and had some small drops I find suspicious. I think he deserves some scrutiny if my team guess above turns out to be wrong. I have to say though, I agree of some things bunny says.

lfischl should not be allowed to coast, needs to participate. If not, consider voting him on a higher priority.

I expected more from Ezio, he could just be there, lying in wait, trying to strike. With his normal behaviour, I also think he would fit into any mafia team, naturally.


I think bona and sweet are very towny. Dousing is also looking very good. Vecna has gotten some town points from me, but I don't want to put him as high town. Squiggs feels fine too, should be town. I also think that our kobold ambassador, RHK, is a good kobold here.


I want Mad Monarch to participate more, please give us your thoughts. Col7by needs to do more too, even when it feels hard. If nothing else, give a few gut-reads and do what your heart feels. Will felt ok, but wasn't much involved? Want to see more from him too.

If two of the next three nk's are PR's, vote worcej. If not, he should be town. I think Flavius has not bad chances to be town here, but I don't feel he is on the same level as the others. Maybe the least town, maybe the highest from the null-ish part.

I have problems getting a feel for food, chayozo, fox and aaro, cannot really sort them. Please make some more so I can read you.


for tomorrow, please copy paste the following:

##vote DiplomacyandWarfare

##end

[brainbomb]

HOLD

[brainbomb]

Steve: Wow I cant believe I made it this far. The Elevator. Wait, why is there an elevator in a fantasy story. Kinda weird. This is like one of those shitty elevators you'd see in new york city in a roach infested apartment…

Oh. Wait who is that?




Steve: Gee thanks Elminster, help me get my wizard to kill himself. That just sounds great. Fine whatever i'll find the Heart of the Absolute I guess. Now Into the Shadow Lands! This sounds like a really great place.

Oh god, now Shadowbarf wants to talk again. This chick is always yapping.



Huh? No way lady, I am not supporting that weird religion that you and Gary were into.

Steve: Ooooh, Harpers. This should be interesting!



Lassandra: These are my companions Yonas, Megyan, and Karrow.

(Suddenly shadows surround everything)

Yonas: I can't see anything. Something's wrong...Who's there? Meg? Is that-



Kakarroto has died he was Yonas of the Harpers, a Vanilla Town

[damo666]

Some of those not on the lead wagons were AFK, and the lead wagons at the time were much less clear, so I dont think the group of 11 is actually the group of 11.
aarodactyl & will were both early voters of me but then didnt get back for when things changed. Same with lfishcl for Flum. I read Colby as town I liked his analysis and his reponses to my questioning of him. I also read Kak as a town, and HB is dead so he isnt apart of the group of 11 either.

So... that leaves king ofpirates who was AFK this entire time basically so he doesnt count either and not sure what to think of Balki yet, so put him to the side I suppose..

LEAVING;
TheMadMonarch(who??), ghug & Bona

I don't think afk is a reason to rule out so 10 - Kak&Col7by (temp noob pass) = 8.

I will be voting* from the survivors of {Will aaro demon Balki TMM ghug Bona lfischl}.

* Assuming I'm not NK'd (highly unlikely the way I'm being scumread by a few) or otherwise vig'd/despatched (quite possible)

I shall ponder the order of the 8

Why not Ezio?

Ezio voted Ham

[Yoyoyozo]

GOKU!!!!!! :’(

[brainbomb]

Day 2 begins you may post

[DemonRHK]

KAK
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SWING THE SUBS CAN WAIT< RESPECT THE DEAD

##vote DiplomacyandWarfare

##end

[Col7by]

Flum - D&W - ghug - kotp/Balki - jamie

I think this has the highest possibility of being the mafia team right now.

If you ask me, why, I'll try to explain:

-) D&W looks to me connected to Flum, ghug and King Balki: he condemns me for what Flum did, tries to bend the narrative that it was me suggesting the whole tadpole thing, putting Flum at his highest/best read with his alignment chart, then go back with it all by saying it was just a joke. Puts ghug down as 'powerwolfing' while ghug's posts seemed mostly jokes - looks like TMI to me here. He also invents unfathomable justifications for townreading kotp early, trying to make his selfvote less awful that it is. Furthermore, the constant ignorance towards facts of D&W is just not a town thing to do, he is at least anti-town

-) Other than his awful suggestion about the tadpole, which he retracted much later as a 'joke', Flum feels suspicious to me. Saying that Brian, who gets often misvoted, obvtowns under pressure, then WHEN Brian actually puts towny stuff down ignoring it, just feels so disingenious. Hard townreads d&w, tries to disincentivising voting for him.

-) ghug hard towning d&w and defending him looks like a typical maf-ghug weakness here. Might be even that ghug is goon and d&w is a power mafia role. But ghug also shows his other tendency when he is mafia: wanting to be townread early. Town ghug usually wants to be more nebulous, mysterious, to not getting dk'ed early. In this game, ghug points out he has to be town, once because he wasn't naked in the last 12 hours (ok, first I thought that first one was but a joke), but also later, and that one looks not like a joke to me. That heavily hints we have a mafia ghug here, and is connected to d&w. Ghug's intend to 'try not to solve until day 4' is just atrocious and I doubt town ghug would ever feel that way.

-) kotp didn't do much, a few posts early, then voted no-kill, changed it to a self vote after I point out a rule. Itself not atypical for him, kotp usually isn't much involved as far as I've seen. But with the praise of d&w, him pushing kotp so high into town area, for him doing practically nothing, looks like a mafia trying to form a great opinion for a partner that has the opportunity to 'go dark' and coast a long, long time.

-) regarding jamie, from most of his actions and words, how he plays this game I would've said he is town ... BUT, his reaction, or rather non-reaction of kotp's selfvote is rather weird. I would've thought that town-jamie would vote kotp, call others to vote him too, to not voting for himself. I would've thought that maf-jamie would use this opportunity to go on to town-kotp, too, imitating townplay, which would've been quite easy, I think. But jamie not doing that is a big warning sign that both are mafia partners here. Maybe I'm wrong, and town-jamie just changed, but with the rest what I've seen of jamie, I don't get that feeling, he is good old jamie.


I do think that the hardest connection is between d&w and ghug, as is between d&w and flum. The d&w connection to kotp is rather weak, and is only inforced with jamie's (non)reaction. Thus I think we should vote out d&w tomorrow.

I also think, if King Balki flips town, jamie is most likely not mafia, so in this 5-man team, he should be targeted last. Ghug could be mafia without d&w, as could flum, and d&w just be awful town. Nonetheless, I think this is the most likely mafia team from a connections point of view.


Other people who I think have a chance to be mafia here:

damo, though very small. Mostly, he feels different. I think, we need to figure him out earlier than later, but I think we can afford to give him some time, maybe a day or two, or three, to get rolling. But if this keeps on, and my previous maf-team turns out wrong, we should consider voting him. But I just don't see this 'obvmafia' some people are putting on him.

Bunny doesn't feel too good to me and had some small drops I find suspicious. I think he deserves some scrutiny if my team guess above turns out to be wrong. I have to say though, I agree of some things bunny says.

lfischl should not be allowed to coast, needs to participate. If not, consider voting him on a higher priority.

I expected more from Ezio, he could just be there, lying in wait, trying to strike. With his normal behaviour, I also think he would fit into any mafia team, naturally.


I think bona and sweet are very towny. Dousing is also looking very good. Vecna has gotten some town points from me, but I don't want to put him as high town. Squiggs feels fine too, should be town. I also think that our kobold ambassador, RHK, is a good kobold here.


I want Mad Monarch to participate more, please give us your thoughts. Col7by needs to do more too, even when it feels hard. If nothing else, give a few gut-reads and do what your heart feels. Will felt ok, but wasn't much involved? Want to see more from him too.

If two of the next three nk's are PR's, vote worcej. If not, he should be town. I think Flavius has not bad chances to be town here, but I don't feel he is on the same level as the others. Maybe the least town, maybe the highest from the null-ish part.

I have problems getting a feel for food, chayozo, fox and aaro, cannot really sort them. Please make some more so I can read you.


for tomorrow, please copy paste the following:

##vote DiplomacyandWarfare

##end

I suppose this needs a deep analysis. Could be them slimming Kar to frame dip and get us to miss again?

[damo666]

##vote Dip

[Balki Bartokomous]

RIP Kakarroto

Balki looks a little offended that scum didn't forego their Night Kill to try to give him a tadpole.

I'm fine. I said I'm FINE.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I suppose this needs a deep analysis. Could be them slimming Kar to frame dip and get us to miss again?

Please think that through some more, and consider time stamps.

[Balki Bartokomous]

KAK
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SWING THE SUBS CAN WAIT< RESPECT THE DEAD

##vote DiplomacyandWarfare

##end

I don't love this.

[Col7by]

I suppose this needs a deep analysis. Could be them slimming Kar to frame dip and get us to miss again?

Please think that through some more, and consider time stamps.

I see that they put it out right before the night elim but Kar made it pretty clear they were targeting dip early on right? Dip was one of the first two that I had as scum so I’m more than willing to do the vote just want to make sure we are for sure first.

[DemonRHK]

DON'T CARE IF YA DON'T LIKE IT.

EVERY MAN A KING!

EVERY VOTE A HAMMER!

[Balki Bartokomous]

I suppose this needs a deep analysis. Could be them slimming Kar to frame dip and get us to miss again?

Please think that through some more, and consider time stamps.

I see that they put it out right before the night elim but Kar made it pretty clear they were targeting dip early on right? Dip was one of the first two that I had as scum so I’m more than willing to do the vote just want to make sure we are for sure first.

Why do you think Dip is scum?

[FlaviusAetius]

i mean there was vast spew. i swear on every damn wagon there were like 3 people saying 'what's the case? what's the case? i haven't seen a case made!' over and over and over.

If you voted for someone without understanding the case behind them, then that might be one of the most anti-town things Ive ever heard

I find this ironic because I was one person that kept calling out that you didn’t sound even a little bit confident in your vote for flum and you kept saying you weren’t confident about it. I know you eventually switched after I had to go afk for a meeting but yeah, irony

I had a case, just not a strong one, and one that I was developing, but left off because I couldnt have confidence in it. I was open and honest about that

[Vecna]

i missed the last 6 hours and im sufficiently intoxicated to have a good time.

lets dance