M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

heya Vecna, I'm pretty sure your name hints to someone good and trustworthy in dnd, mind if you give us your thoughts about fox, aaro and squiggs in this game? Any special suspicious movements or actions you have witnessed?

squigs is about as towny as ive ever seen anyone.

Aaro hasnt done anything allignment indicative, but thats not very unusual for him.

Fox and flum are like the same person, except flum is a gymbro and fox is an excelbro. I think theyre both more mildly likely town, but theyre good enough to fake this stuff. These people always feel tonedeaf to me and I dont think I can read them very well at all.

I see, I see. So we should try to sort out fox and flum so you can solve the game, thanks. *takes notes*

Very helpful, thanks a lot and keep up the good work!

So we interrogate fox and flum. Which would you prefer?

[Squigs44]

Worcej damo or worcej Flum are also really interesting scumpairings.

And while I initially really liked Worcej, a reread of his iso leaves me wanting more

[Kakarroto]

What's your take on D&W?

either mafia or hurtful town. I think removing him is not a mistake. He ignores evidence and spins it to fit his narrative, as previously shown, and it just makes so much damage, in my opinion. He doesn't consider to reevaluate or check prior evidence and that is a clear sign that even if he is town, he will not be of great use to us

I find it strange you presumably read my conclusion Dip is Town and yet you seem to haven't even bothered to consider it. You acknowledge that Dip could be "bad Town", but seem convinced we should kill "bad Town" rather than Mafia.

yes, I consider the skill as town too for my votes. If I'm unsure of their alignment, that might become the deciding factor.

In d&w's case, I see it as a win win, either we get mafia, or get vote out a bad town. Not much lost there. And I think the chance he is mafia is rather high.

If I don't vote for anyone that 'could be town', then most of the time I would have to vote no-kill. And that is just not good enough, if we played that way, mafia would just nk off all town, and we would gain much less information. So yes, I'm very ok with a candidate that could be town but plays badly and has decent chances to be mafia.

[Yoyoyozo]

I need to get to work, but I hope to complete a deep read of the following players’ posts:

Dousing
Bunnygo
Flum
Jamiet

[Kakarroto]

One of my early red flags was on D&W but because of catching up on posts I forgot why and couldn’t cite it so I backed off. But certainly off vibes I’ve gotten it feels like an overplaying town which feels scum team to me like trying to be too helpful. Could of course be way off on this assessment

interesting

Tomorrow, I hope for your support towards the 'vote D&W out'-church.

You are blinded by hate, young Padawan.

I wouldn't say blinded. Angry, at least for a time I was. But look at how he represents my words, and how he ignores to look back at the evidence. If not with malicious intent, it is gross neglect. Or do you completely agree with his description of my actions?

[Kakarroto]

squigs is about as towny as ive ever seen anyone.

Aaro hasnt done anything allignment indicative, but thats not very unusual for him.

Fox and flum are like the same person, except flum is a gymbro and fox is an excelbro. I think theyre both more mildly likely town, but theyre good enough to fake this stuff. These people always feel tonedeaf to me and I dont think I can read them very well at all.

I see, I see. So we should try to sort out fox and flum so you can solve the game, thanks. *takes notes*

Very helpful, thanks a lot and keep up the good work!

So we interrogate fox and flum. Which would you prefer?

I think fox would give us a truthful response, while I suspect flum to be deceiving. If I had to choose one, then flum, since I think he has a chance to give out information of his team. But what does us stop to question both.

[sweetandcool]

either mafia or hurtful town. I think removing him is not a mistake. He ignores evidence and spins it to fit his narrative, as previously shown, and it just makes so much damage, in my opinion. He doesn't consider to reevaluate or check prior evidence and that is a clear sign that even if he is town, he will not be of great use to us

I find it strange you presumably read my conclusion Dip is Town and yet you seem to haven't even bothered to consider it. You acknowledge that Dip could be "bad Town", but seem convinced we should kill "bad Town" rather than Mafia.

yes, I consider the skill as town too for my votes. If I'm unsure of their alignment, that might become the deciding factor.

In d&w's case, I see it as a win win, either we get mafia, or get vote out a bad town. Not much lost there. And I think the chance he is mafia is rather high.

If I don't vote for anyone that 'could be town', then most of the time I would have to vote no-kill. And that is just not good enough, if we played that way, mafia would just nk off all town, and we would gain much less information. So yes, I'm very ok with a candidate that could be town but plays badly and has decent chances to be mafia.

Decent chances being 51%? I expect better of you than to willfully tunnel.

1. Dip is very different this game (and he has always been scum*)
2. Dip is clearly trying to solve.
3. Dip is solving poorly.
4. Dip was like a dog with a bone over the Kak-tadpole thing.

And so on.

Nobody is going to take Dip seriously, so he is not "dangerous" to Town. He just has no idea how to solve.

I know you are annoyed with him, but seriously you are better than putting the blinders on just because you want a particular player out of the game.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I see, I see. So we should try to sort out fox and flum so you can solve the game, thanks. *takes notes*

Very helpful, thanks a lot and keep up the good work!

So we interrogate fox and flum. Which would you prefer?

I think fox would give us a truthful response, while I suspect flum to be deceiving. If I had to choose one, then flum, since I think he has a chance to give out information of his team. But what does us stop to question both.

Excellent point.

Fluminator, what was your reasoning behind the following post? Do you still think Demon is mafia?

Well, that sucks. HB voters lookin kinda sus. Really sus. sus +1 if you will.

There were plenty of competitive counterwagons.

Let's kill Demon tomorrow

[damo666]

heya damo, while you're here, can I interest you to share your opinion about jamie? I would like your input about D&W too, please. And about *rolls dice* ... ghug? What do you think of him in this game?

Jamie tend to believe his vt claim

D&W slight scumlean

ghug insufficient data as yet

[damo666]

And also you volunteered to be flipped if Hamilton flipped town.

Nope. If Ham flipped scum. It was a response to a bussing accusation.

That's awfully convenient

I said it BEFORE the flip lol

[sweetandcool]

interesting

Tomorrow, I hope for your support towards the 'vote D&W out'-church.

You are blinded by hate, young Padawan.

I wouldn't say blinded. Angry, at least for a time I was. But look at how he represents my words, and how he ignores to look back at the evidence. If not with malicious intent, it is gross neglect. Or do you completely agree with his description of my actions?

ISO him. He has plenty of other moments, not related to you, where he has bad takes. You could say it's Mafia motivated, but really it is plainly symptomatic of what I have been trying to say.

Bruder Kakob, Bruder Kakob.
Schläfst du noch? Schläfst du noch?
Hörst du nicht die Glocken? Hörst du nicht die Glocken?
Ding dong dong, ding dong dong.

[damo666]

Mr. level headed people, sir, what do you think about bunny so far? I would like for you to give your opinion about yoyozo, too, though I can understand that it might take a bit since he just subbed in. And may I be so cheeky and ask for your evaluation of damo?

Oh, well I guess my recent tinfoiling on Bunny that I was preparing probably answers that. Basically gut says Bunny is scum, VCA says Bunny isn't looking good, nit I can't pin down anything that makes me want to commit to a Bunny vote.

Not sure analysis on yoyo is gonna be helpful yet, let's give some time for them to post and catch up.

I gave a case on damo early, but he's either scum who doesn't care or town who doesn't care and either way I can't wrap my head around his intentions or motivations. Either way, damo will probably flip at some point, and an earlier flip could be better for vca. I'd hate to vote damo only for information, but even as town I'm not sure leaving him alive long term is going to be very helpful. Hopefully we find a better flip tomorrow that is more likely scum and gives us more info, but it's hard for me to see a world where damo makes it to the end game, so take that as you will.

Oi rude!

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Jesus christ 40 more pages since I was away?????

[sweetandcool]

Jesus christ 40 more pages since I was away?????

We all decided to RP as Will from a couple games ago (;

[Jamiet99uk]

Wow, webdip mafia is over 10 years old, isn't it?

Wow indeed, you're right!

Mafia 1 took place in April 2014.

[Jamiet99uk]

I need to get to work, but I hope to complete a deep read of the following players’ posts:

Dousing
Bunnygo
Flum
Jamiet

I need to get to work, but I hope to complete a deep read of the following players’ posts:

Dousing
Bunnygo
Flum
Jamiet

Were these four names pulled from a hat?

Did you roll a D24 four times?

Or, are we your top suspects for some kind of reason?

[Jamiet99uk]

Whoops, didn't mean to quote Yozo's post twice.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Jesus christ 40 more pages since I was away?????

We all decided to RP as Will from a couple games ago (;

I…

Fair

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

And Brian feels a bit more town here to me than usual.

There's a scumslip if I've ever read one!!!

Brian flips town, Kak can garner a bit of towniness for it.

Really, I appreciate the defense but I can't excuse my ADD/super-busy playstyle. That's for me to fix.

Omg same altho I have ADHD

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

But I do agree about Flum; feels like they've been picking at the low-hanging fruit others are lobbing out there.

Vote Flum, let's do it!

We are running out of time, as I go back Im trying to find stuff about Flum but I havent found anything but this one thing we found on him I know someone said we dont have a lot to work off on D1 but we are urnning out of time, I dont want my vote to be useless, Im trying to decid ebetween Ham and Damo right now if this Flum thing doesnt work out and apparently fish now? MAN I just want to figure out what the cases are for these people

I am trying to recall a single good reason Flum was a wagon but I cannot