M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[ghug]

did ghug excuse himself for missing eod somewhere?

I cant for the life of me remember an eod without him present lol

I never excuse myself beforehand. Excuses are for cowards.

EoD tends to be in my early afternoon, and I regrettably have a job and a life, so shit happens sometimes.

[sweetandcool]

Can't tell if Dip and I just see the world differently due to playstyle or if my tinfoil Dip and Ghug scumteam is true. Either way it would take a lot for me to day 1 vote for such an active player. They'll continue to incriminate themselves if they actually are scum

That tinfoil is interesting.

This isn't the scum!Dip I remember though. This Dip seems....confused and wanting to DO something, but has no idea how.

I am begrudgingly coming around to the idea Dip is Town telling by flailing about in the manner he has.

Though it could be coached

[BunnyGo]

I am so pro town here it's spectacular

Are you sure? I don't think you're playing with a sense of investment. I think your vote, and continuing vote, on me is a lazy play. As mafia, I think you'd be doing more. As town I think you'd be doing more than latching on to the easiest kill. This isn't like you, or what I've come to expect from you.

I'm lazy => mafia
I'm lazy => town

Ham you are hedgy as town but as scum you flail.

You are today's kill.

Goodbye.

I don't remember cruel/snarky/short damo. Wassup with that man? Bad week?

[ghug]

did ghug excuse himself for missing eod somewhere?

I cant for the life of me remember an eod without him present lol

I remember something about him not having energy or electricity or something (that's why he wasn't nude for 12 hours plus) or maybe I'm misremembering, but that might be why he wasn't here.

Or he is just lazy mafia, that could be true too.

I dont think ive ever seen ghug play lazy mafia. it was probably the first thing.

I die like every time I miss EoD as mafia so this actually confirms me as town if you think about it.

[BunnyGo]

I forgot why I townread lfischl. 26 people and a very complex setup. It's hard to remember everything.
Dargorygel is lawful exalted because he's a moderator and Co-GM
Kotp was doing useful contributing before the NoKill arc. Hamilton didn't do anything useful until he became a major wagon, and now he's just reacting to the wagon on him. In other words, kotp has done some good stuff and questionable stuff. Ham's only done questionable stuff.
My townread on kotp has a bit of personal intuition thrown in. My HB scumread, however, has a very provable point: Ham has done no analysis this game that is not specifically biased for and pointed towards stopping his wagon.

oh boy, where to begin?

well at least you didn't forget that dargo was just a gm

now this:

Kotp was doing useful contributing before the NoKill arc

these are all kotp posts before:

Howdy folks! I dunno what my gimmick is going to be this game, but whatevs, yo! Let's get this show on the road! lock in, buckle your seat belts, and prepare to shoot any stray Illithids you find along the way!

hard agree with dipandwar here, we don't to give mafia any more advantages.

AHA! A gimmick for me to steal! rolling... a 19! Mine now! I shall not cast fireball just yet though, lol.

well since you are 3 feet, you clearly are not a strange thing. though you may very well be 3 strange things in a trench coat... but I would know nothing about that (just rolled investigation)!

##vote no kill
In such a massive game, I don't see the point in not skipping when there is not enough info. unless there is a major scum slip, or some other great realization, this is my vote for the day.

please, point out here, exactly where in your opinion Kotp is doing this useful stuff.



Brian on the other hand has provided his thoughts of his reads and shown a bit of him. Your arguments and statements don't represent the reality.


It's the same with Fluminator and me, you read him as "Absolute Exalted" and suspect me with the argument I was pushing to everyone the tadpole question, yet it was HE who did it, while I tried to mirror it to himself, to present it as the flaw it is.

m89 - repelling tadpole question.png


I'm heavily doubting you are of a sound logic in your arguments for your classification. You either need to cleanse yourself, or you are just mafia trying to give misinformation into the game.

First of all, Fluminator being absolute exalted is a joke. My serious read of him is neutral moral. Fluminator.
Second, note kotp agreeing with me and rejecting your scum-benefitting 'lets all reveal if we would accept a tadpole' proposal
Third, its a light townread. Chill. It's not like I'm calling kotp absolute exalted
Fourth, Fluminator started a list of people he would, and would not, consider wagoning D1. You turned that into "would you accept a tadpole".
Fifth and finally, I agree that I may have gotten a bit carried away with wagoning HB. However, the HB wagon is better than either the damo, lfischl, and fluminator wagons.

Hmm. Maybe we should flashwagon sweet.

Had I not been in straight meetings and not reading I'd have joined to try and flash sweet.

[sweetandcool]

Where's ghug and Vecna telling us these wagons are stupid and leading us to the correct vote?

im not sure whether the damo / HB wagon are stupid.

They might be. But I do feel theres enough reason to be voting there.

Flum / D&W / Flavius would all be atrocious wagons imo.

I feel like you. None of the juicy stuff I want to actually kill it on the table.

I STRONGLY feel bona is not getting anywhere near enough pressure. slot has been completely vapid.

I wouldnt mind S&C being an option

I always applaud a Chaqa wagon, and he's been awfully quiet (probably so he can N1 me again as he always does before I get a read on him )

Well, Vecna and I appear to be on the same page, at least.

I like the idea of you two teaming up and solving this game.

[sweetandcool]

oh boy, where to begin?

well at least you didn't forget that dargo was just a gm

now this:


these are all kotp posts before:











please, point out here, exactly where in your opinion Kotp is doing this useful stuff.



Brian on the other hand has provided his thoughts of his reads and shown a bit of him. Your arguments and statements don't represent the reality.


It's the same with Fluminator and me, you read him as "Absolute Exalted" and suspect me with the argument I was pushing to everyone the tadpole question, yet it was HE who did it, while I tried to mirror it to himself, to present it as the flaw it is.

m89 - repelling tadpole question.png


I'm heavily doubting you are of a sound logic in your arguments for your classification. You either need to cleanse yourself, or you are just mafia trying to give misinformation into the game.

First of all, Fluminator being absolute exalted is a joke. My serious read of him is neutral moral. Fluminator.
Second, note kotp agreeing with me and rejecting your scum-benefitting 'lets all reveal if we would accept a tadpole' proposal
Third, its a light townread. Chill. It's not like I'm calling kotp absolute exalted
Fourth, Fluminator started a list of people he would, and would not, consider wagoning D1. You turned that into "would you accept a tadpole".
Fifth and finally, I agree that I may have gotten a bit carried away with wagoning HB. However, the HB wagon is better than either the damo, lfischl, and fluminator wagons.

Hmm. Maybe we should flashwagon sweet.

Had I not been in straight meetings and not reading I'd have joined to try and flash sweet.

There are laws against that, Bunny.

[BunnyGo]

##vote sweet

towniest thing damo did so far

[ghug]

YOOOOOO THIS IS A SCUMSLIP BY HB

Is Flavius powerwolfy as scum or is he just town here?

I flipped real quick on this one so just a town

Your answer to this question is the one I care about the least, unfortunately.

[ghug]

im not sure whether the damo / HB wagon are stupid.

They might be. But I do feel theres enough reason to be voting there.

Flum / D&W / Flavius would all be atrocious wagons imo.

I feel like you. None of the juicy stuff I want to actually kill it on the table.

I STRONGLY feel bona is not getting anywhere near enough pressure. slot has been completely vapid.

I wouldnt mind S&C being an option

I always applaud a Chaqa wagon, and he's been awfully quiet (probably so he can N1 me again as he always does before I get a read on him )

Well, Vecna and I appear to be on the same page, at least.

I like the idea of you two teaming up and solving this game.

There's a fanfic comic of this somewhere.

[BunnyGo]

First of all, Fluminator being absolute exalted is a joke. My serious read of him is neutral moral. Fluminator.
Second, note kotp agreeing with me and rejecting your scum-benefitting 'lets all reveal if we would accept a tadpole' proposal
Third, its a light townread. Chill. It's not like I'm calling kotp absolute exalted
Fourth, Fluminator started a list of people he would, and would not, consider wagoning D1. You turned that into "would you accept a tadpole".
Fifth and finally, I agree that I may have gotten a bit carried away with wagoning HB. However, the HB wagon is better than either the damo, lfischl, and fluminator wagons.

Hmm. Maybe we should flashwagon sweet.

Had I not been in straight meetings and not reading I'd have joined to try and flash sweet.

There are laws against that, Bunny.

Not in the Heartlands. We Harpers value camaraderie.

[ghug]

I think the HB wagon was town driven. Mafia don't need to rush to kill Ham, since he usually finds a way to get himself miskilled at some point regardless. Conversely, he's always suspicious, so it makes sense for town to suspect him.

This game is too fucking large and there's the tadpole in play so I'm not going to really try to solve until D4 or so, but I do think Dip and Flavius are looking good. Flum feels very meh. We should kill Ezio, though a Vig should be given the opportunity to do that themselves first because it's a longstanding webDip tradition.

[Dousing]

I just sped-read the 20+ pages I missed out on and gained… very little information lol.

No in all seriousness, while I do think there were better options, DK’ing Hamilton wasn’t actually that bad of a call?

Had I been around for EoD I would imagine I would wanna push for killing Fluminator or Sweet? Honestly I think there’s a decent chance that Flum’s early antagonization of sweet might’ve just been contrived?

Idk airplanes make my mind mushy lol (I’ll try my best not to make travel an excuse for poor performance)

[BunnyGo]

##Vote DiplomacyandWarfare

I think there's a level of performative ignorance in his display today.

hot take

[Dousing]

I feel like we’re spending 90% of our energy talking about the tadpole. Is there a chance we’re that the tadpole is a bit of a red herring?

[BunnyGo]

I'm just confused now. If Vecna votes someone reasonable that is not damo I think I will sheep.

This at least I can agree with. I trust Vecna here.

@sweet and Dip:

Why did you trust Vecna?

[Dousing]

As for my vote on Damo. In hindsight, I could’ve just perused hamilton’s posts to see what Damo was talking about. Then again, I have no idea why Damo couldn’t just link the bloody part that “screamed scum.”

I feel like pettiness is influencing Damo’s posts, I’m gonna try my best to look past that and see the content of Damo’s posts beyond the emotions.

[Dousing]

I think the HB wagon was town driven. Mafia don't need to rush to kill Ham, since he usually finds a way to get himself miskilled at some point regardless. Conversely, he's always suspicious, so it makes sense for town to suspect him.

Hard agree ^^^

Solid “don’t interrupt your enemy while they’re making a mistake” type situation for the mafia RE:HB

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I think the HB wagon was town driven. Mafia don't need to rush to kill Ham, since he usually finds a way to get himself miskilled at some point regardless. Conversely, he's always suspicious, so it makes sense for town to suspect him.

This game is too fucking large and there's the tadpole in play so I'm not going to really try to solve until D4 or so, but I do think Dip and Flavius are looking good. Flum feels very meh. We should kill Ezio, though a Vig should be given the opportunity to do that themselves first because it's a longstanding webDip tradition.

Why the Ezio kill?

[BunnyGo]

Did you miss my post debunking this nonsense? Fluminator suggested somone made a list of general preferences, and you then suggested everyone revealed their preferences for this particular setup

you have to do this on purpose, no one in their right mind can just think that. WHERE, WHERE WHERE WHERE THE ABSOLUTELY §)(/"§="(=§(/=$! DID I EVER PUT THAT THOUGHT TOWARDS EVERYONE! I pushed that question back to Flum, as stated multiple times before, to show him. WHERE CAN YOU EVEN GET THE IDEA I WANTED ANYONE ELSE SAY WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH A TADPOLE!?! Seriously, point that out, coloured in, where you think I suggest that to anyone (except flum, since I wanted to mirror it back to him)

Does anyone have an epi pen, I think Kak is having a seizure.

Serious take: Don't use an epipen on someone having a seizure! It won't help, and there's a (small but real) chance you could kill them.

Just let them have the seizure and move things away from them; don't put stuff in their mouth, don't give them meds, don't throw water on them. I guess you could try an exorcism, but at least that won't cause them physical harm, but seems pretty mean spirited.