M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Squigs44]

I can’t believe you missed a reference to contraction theory. The single most revolutionary theory in the history of this website.

What is contraction theory? I have not heard of it.

Bozo once claimed that mafia are less likely to use contractions than town because they think through their posts more. There’s been pretty much no evidence that it’s true but it’s probably one of the funniest things I’ve read in a mafia game here.

Back when I was in college I wrote a neural network that would take in posts and votes from mafia games and attempt to identify mafia based on some natural language processing and cross vote analysis. I imagine it picked up on stuff like contractions, but with neural networks, you never know. I should see if I can dig that back out, it had like 38% accuracy, which when compared to 25% rand was pretty decent.

[Jamiet99uk]

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"- Bill Clinton, lying.

If he was telling the truth, contraction theory indicates he would have said something like this: "I didn't have sex with tha' woman."

In operator theory, a bounded operator T: X → Y between normed vector spaces X and Y is said to be a contraction if its operator norm ||T || ≤ 1. This notion is a special case of the concept of a contraction mapping, but every bounded operator becomes a contraction after suitable scaling. The analysis of contractions provides insight into the structure of operators, or a family of operators. The theory of contractions on Hilbert space is largely due to Béla Szőkefalvi-Nagy and Ciprian Foias.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Ezio
##Unvote

I have met your requirements.

The bot did not pick this up.

##CALL GM: maybe something for Peter to look at, in case this is an edgecase that the bot isn't handling properly.

Interesting.

Let's see if it picks up just ##Vote Ezio.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE DemonRHK

##UNVOTE

Hmm. Didn't work on the Bot either.

[BunnyGo]

That full-time mafia chat is going to be a PITA.

I wonder if a way around it is to consolidate in like 3, 4, 5 key blocs...who do you resonate as town with, then vote around that, making sure to avoid the tie.

But then the "vote once"" but you can also Unvote and still be in compliance is CAF.

Is Hamilton having trouble keeping up with two places to post and not posting messages for one audience to the other?

Oh no.

Perhaps we should relieve him of his burden.

##vote ham

[Squigs44]

Alr I'm caught up on the thread again.
New alignment chart:
7x7_blank - with names - Copy.jpg
A few notes:
ghug feels like he is powerwolfing
Bunny seems to be playing as town but is doing it an extremely messy fashion (ChatGPT), so he is Anarchic Good
Hamilton has not made a single good post this game
Fluminator

I'm also going to ##VOTE HAMILTONBRIAN

What about ghugs play feels like power wolfing? Where is he steering things?

[Foxcastle]

What is contraction theory? I have not heard of it.

Bozo once claimed that mafia are less likely to use contractions than town because they think through their posts more. There’s been pretty much no evidence that it’s true but it’s probably one of the funniest things I’ve read in a mafia game here.

Back when I was in college I wrote a neural network that would take in posts and votes from mafia games and attempt to identify mafia based on some natural language processing and cross vote analysis. I imagine it picked up on stuff like contractions, but with neural networks, you never know. I should see if I can dig that back out, it had like 38% accuracy, which when compared to 25% rand was pretty decent.

I assume that there's just not enough data on WebDip for this to be effective?

[Col7by]

step one: take the players list:

1. chaqa
2. kingofthepirates
3. JustAGuyNamedWill
4. Jamiet99uk
5. Bonatogether
6. damo666
7. Hamilton Brian
8. Dousing
9. foodcoats
10. BunnyGo
11. ghug
12. Ezio
13. FlaviusAetius
14. DiplomacyandWarfare
15. Kakarroto
16. Worcej
17. lfischl
18. Vecna
19. foxcastle
20. TheMadMonarch
21. DemonRHK
22. Col7by
23. Squiggs44
24. sweetandcool
25. fluminator
26. aarodactyl

step two, remove six names from there which I personally think shouldn't be day one'd (except they absolutely are proven mafia, but I doubt I come to that conclusion D1), and refill the numbers in order, 1 to 20

(for the record, removed were: 5. Bonatogether, 11. ghug, 15. Kakarroto, 16. Worcej, 22. Col7by, 24. sweetandcool)

1. chaqa
2. kingofthepirates
3. JustAGuyNamedWill
4. Jamiet99uk
5. damo666
6. Hamilton Brian
7. Dousing
8. foodcoats
9. BunnyGo
10. Ezio
11. FlaviusAetius
12. DiplomacyandWarfare
13. lfischl
14. Vecna
15. foxcastle
16. TheMadMonarch
17. DemonRHK
18. Squiggs44
19. fluminator
20. aarodactyl

step three, use hobbit luck and roll a d20 -> 13 lfischl

step four, vote the result

##vote lfischl

step five:

Thank you for step two right choice :) sorry still catching up

[Squigs44]

Ghug has done only joke and policy votes from what I can tell. How is that power wolfing?

[Col7by]

I will not be voting Colby until D3 at the min

Good choice choice thank you will why D3?

[Foxcastle]

step one: take the players list:

1. chaqa
2. kingofthepirates
3. JustAGuyNamedWill
4. Jamiet99uk
5. Bonatogether
6. damo666
7. Hamilton Brian
8. Dousing
9. foodcoats
10. BunnyGo
11. ghug
12. Ezio
13. FlaviusAetius
14. DiplomacyandWarfare
15. Kakarroto
16. Worcej
17. lfischl
18. Vecna
19. foxcastle
20. TheMadMonarch
21. DemonRHK
22. Col7by
23. Squiggs44
24. sweetandcool
25. fluminator
26. aarodactyl

step two, remove six names from there which I personally think shouldn't be day one'd (except they absolutely are proven mafia, but I doubt I come to that conclusion D1), and refill the numbers in order, 1 to 20

(for the record, removed were: 5. Bonatogether, 11. ghug, 15. Kakarroto, 16. Worcej, 22. Col7by, 24. sweetandcool)

1. chaqa
2. kingofthepirates
3. JustAGuyNamedWill
4. Jamiet99uk
5. damo666
6. Hamilton Brian
7. Dousing
8. foodcoats
9. BunnyGo
10. Ezio
11. FlaviusAetius
12. DiplomacyandWarfare
13. lfischl
14. Vecna
15. foxcastle
16. TheMadMonarch
17. DemonRHK
18. Squiggs44
19. fluminator
20. aarodactyl

step three, use hobbit luck and roll a d20 -> 13 lfischl

step four, vote the result

##vote lfischl

step five:

Thank you for step two right choice :) sorry still catching up

"Still catching up" on post #16 of 668. I don't think Col7by is going to make it...

[BunnyGo]

Alr I'm caught up on the thread again.
New alignment chart:
7x7_blank - with names - Copy.jpg
A few notes:
ghug feels like he is powerwolfing
Bunny seems to be playing as town but is doing it an extremely messy fashion (ChatGPT), so he is Anarchic Good
Hamilton has not made a single good post this game
Fluminator

I'm also going to ##VOTE HAMILTONBRIAN

Why is dargo listed?

[Squigs44]

Jamie did you actually hard claim because you were the top wagon and felt you needed to do so to save yourself? Or do you have some other strange reason?

I am a simple man. I am not executing some kind of convoluted strategy.

So you confirm that you revealed because you felt pressured? I just find it extremely strange that you felt that much pressure at that point, and that your remedy was to hard claim instead of addressing the requests/critiques made of you

[Squigs44]

Bozo once claimed that mafia are less likely to use contractions than town because they think through their posts more. There’s been pretty much no evidence that it’s true but it’s probably one of the funniest things I’ve read in a mafia game here.

Back when I was in college I wrote a neural network that would take in posts and votes from mafia games and attempt to identify mafia based on some natural language processing and cross vote analysis. I imagine it picked up on stuff like contractions, but with neural networks, you never know. I should see if I can dig that back out, it had like 38% accuracy, which when compared to 25% rand was pretty decent.

I assume that there's just not enough data on WebDip for this to be effective?

I trained it on MU, and then tested it on MU and here

[damo666]

That full-time mafia chat is going to be a PITA.

I wonder if a way around it is to consolidate in like 3, 4, 5 key blocs...who do you resonate as town with, then vote around that, making sure to avoid the tie.

But then the "vote once"" but you can also Unvote and still be in compliance is CAF.

Is Hamilton having trouble keeping up with two places to post and not posting messages for one audience to the other?

Oh no.

Perhaps we should relieve him of his burden.

##vote ham

Can we just endvote Ham please. He is obvscum.

[foodcoats]

if that is your concern, as far as I understood, voting "no-kill" in this game does NOT prevent you from being modkilled. The phrasing is:

You must vote at some point during the day for a LIVING player, you may end a day unvoted as long as you voted for a LIVING player at some point, you may vote no kill provided you voted for a LIVING player at some point. You may self vote, this will count as voting a player.

please check page 1 or the GM for this.

Oh damn, nice catch, I didn't see that. alright then, I shall ##vote kingofthepirates (self voting is always fun :D). I know I'm safe (safe as in town), and I'll still be keeping up, seeing if anything new comes out, and voting accordingly, far to early to definitively say anything.

Additional scum points for kotp who appears uninterested in solving.

[dargorygel]

GM BOT NOTE

Don't combine multiple orders I the same post.

(Thanks jamie, for voting the way I was about to ask someone to vote)

[foodcoats]

I do find it kind of interesting that Dip knew that the janitor role here learned the role of the target. I don't think that's usually the case here on WebDip. So either he read the whole setup and has a great memory or he has a reason to know that particular detail.

I think Fox is also town.

[foodcoats]

I do find it kind of interesting that Dip knew that the janitor role here learned the role of the target. I don't think that's usually the case here on WebDip. So either he read the whole setup and has a great memory or he has a reason to know that particular detail.

Town motivation for this post?

Party formed. Let's kill some orc babies and steal their stuff.

[brainbomb]

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