M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[worcej]

then please, suggest a topic, I'm here and willing to post. What do you think should we talk about?

Mech talk.
For example, how do you think the tadpole and/or scum having PRs will affect PR claims?

you mean, the topic mafia can easily just chime in and don't have to fear much about their tone? Plus lots of people hate mechtalk, which would decrease chances of their participation

neeehhhh, declined.

I love this post.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

unordered bc they are all weak
TRs

Dip
Jamie
Vecna
Bona
Kak

SRs

Bunny
Flav

Naked lists are shit.

All the reasons are ‘vibes’ so idk what else to say here. I can probably elaborate more later once they do more

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Honestly I think all the reads people have early D1 are just versions and iterations of ‘vibes’ from what I seen over 20 or so games

[worcej]

##vote no kill
In such a massive game, I don't see the point in not skipping when there is not enough info. unless there is a major scum slip, or some other great realization, this is my vote for the day.

the point is, to get voting information from everyone, how they react, save that information, then use that information, where every town should know nothing and only play on gut, or guesses, on a later date. Like 'oh, now whe know X flipped mafia, on day one it looks like Y and Z tried to rescue X and voted C instead. Lets have a deeper look into them'. And there are lots of more things to gain of, later, with reactions and stuff that happened in the prior days.

Voting no-kill is like not providing information from yourself, making yourself kind a blank slot, which is what a mafia member would like to do, at least some. The more information about you is publicly known, your behaviour and voting and reason etc., the better other players can read you. Town want to find other town, as much as they want to find mafia.

As town, it is quite a good idea to project information from you, so your team members can read you. Mafia knows already you are not on their team, though they want to know who the PR's are. THAT information should be hidden as town, yes, but also, it's probably a good idea to send information out about your thoughts, reasoning and logic.

Now I am struggling to sort if Kak is overly helpful scum or town here…

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Well, actually meta is there but I dont see too much meta (other than my read on bunny)

[worcej]

Honestly I think all the reads people have early D1 are just versions and iterations of ‘vibes’ from what I seen over 20 or so games

Fair, but the vibes form from something.

[worcej]

if that is your concern, as far as I understood, voting "no-kill" in this game does NOT prevent you from being modkilled. The phrasing is:

You must vote at some point during the day for a LIVING player, you may end a day unvoted as long as you voted for a LIVING player at some point, you may vote no kill provided you voted for a LIVING player at some point. You may self vote, this will count as voting a player.

please check page 1 or the GM for this.

Oh damn, nice catch, I didn't see that. alright then, I shall ##vote kingofthepirates (self voting is always fun :D). I know I'm safe (safe as in town), and I'll still be keeping up, seeing if anything new comes out, and voting accordingly, far to early to definitively say anything.

wtf?

[sweetandcool]

##vote no kill
In such a massive game, I don't see the point in not skipping when there is not enough info. unless there is a major scum slip, or some other great realization, this is my vote for the day.

the point is, to get voting information from everyone, how they react, save that information, then use that information, where every town should know nothing and only play on gut, or guesses, on a later date. Like 'oh, now whe know X flipped mafia, on day one it looks like Y and Z tried to rescue X and voted C instead. Lets have a deeper look into them'. And there are lots of more things to gain of, later, with reactions and stuff that happened in the prior days.

Voting no-kill is like not providing information from yourself, making yourself kind a blank slot, which is what a mafia member would like to do, at least some. The more information about you is publicly known, your behaviour and voting and reason etc., the better other players can read you. Town want to find other town, as much as they want to find mafia.

As town, it is quite a good idea to project information from you, so your team members can read you. Mafia knows already you are not on their team, though they want to know who the PR's are. THAT information should be hidden as town, yes, but also, it's probably a good idea to send information out about your thoughts, reasoning and logic.

Now I am struggling to sort if Kak is overly helpful scum or town here…

Dude, we've seen this exchange countless times, and Kak is almost always involved.

So this is a strange look for you.

[worcej]

Kinda shocked I haven’t seen much talk about the 24 hour phase encouraging less shit posting.

[worcej]

the point is, to get voting information from everyone, how they react, save that information, then use that information, where every town should know nothing and only play on gut, or guesses, on a later date. Like 'oh, now whe know X flipped mafia, on day one it looks like Y and Z tried to rescue X and voted C instead. Lets have a deeper look into them'. And there are lots of more things to gain of, later, with reactions and stuff that happened in the prior days.

Voting no-kill is like not providing information from yourself, making yourself kind a blank slot, which is what a mafia member would like to do, at least some. The more information about you is publicly known, your behaviour and voting and reason etc., the better other players can read you. Town want to find other town, as much as they want to find mafia.

As town, it is quite a good idea to project information from you, so your team members can read you. Mafia knows already you are not on their team, though they want to know who the PR's are. THAT information should be hidden as town, yes, but also, it's probably a good idea to send information out about your thoughts, reasoning and logic.

Now I am struggling to sort if Kak is overly helpful scum or town here…

Dude, we've seen this exchange countless times, and Kak is almost always involved.

So this is a strange look for you.

I just find it interesting to be uninterested in engaging to talk mechs (good) but also then talking mechs of voting (interesting).

Pardon my highly suspicious mindset?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Honestly I think all the reads people have early D1 are just versions and iterations of ‘vibes’ from what I seen over 20 or so games

Fair, but the vibes form from something.

And thats how I got my naked reads lol

[worcej]

But also, how the fuck are you getting votes again sweet?

[worcej]

Normally my style is to shitpost and spam at the beginning, but with 26 players and 24 hour phases we all have to be on better behaviour now. These first few days are going to be hell.

Hello to all the newer players I haven’t met yet but I’m not going to be able to get to know you in time lol.

Since 24 hours makes this even more of a gong show the first vote will likely be random so I’ll throw out a couple names for consideration to murder to get things started.
1. FlaviusAetius – Aetius has some epically cool moments, but for the most part he was overrated. Although it’s true his assassination triggered the beginning of the end of Rome, he shoulders a lot of the blame removing all other competent people in the first place so Rome had to rely on him. I was always more of a Stilicho fan.
2. Col7by – I don’t know how to say his name so it will be more tiring to read.
3. Dowsing – I really don’t think Dowsing rods are a good way to find mafia so he may be a liability for town either way.

Alternatively we kill whoever is at risk for accepting recruitment. Are there any players here that are known to prefer playing scum over town?

Spoke too soon about missing the comments on 24 hours.

I like Fluminator here.

[Bonatogether]

Kinda shocked I haven’t seen much talk about the 24 hour phase encouraging less shit posting.

i suspect the actual pattern of posting is going to be the same - shitposting is going to taper off in this game d2 i would guess

[sweetandcool]

But also, how the fuck are you getting votes again sweet?

Must mean I'm a PR (;

[worcej]

Message to Mafia:

While I won't accept a tadpole if given it, I want to be clear that buddying works on me, and I will likely townread you for it. Do with that info as you will.

Dip is a strong townread for calling me Absolute Exalted.

Not necessarily responding to Flum here, but any “messages of acceptance” of this tadpole thing is kinda disingenuous to me.

I feel like they are anchor posts.

[Bonatogether]

what even is an anchor post

[worcej]

what even is an anchor post

Something they can use down the line to prove their mindset if it gets questioned down the road.

[worcej]

##VOTE Dip

I say we nip this in the bud.

NOOOO! This is a great idea I want to know where he would put me xD Also why not its flavorful and gets him talking he said he doesnt even talk usually in these games so I support, plus would be interesting to see where he puts people >.> A public allignment of his opinions on literally everyone almost 24/7 sounds GREAT to me

This is a terrible idea that too easily looks like scumhunting when it's just garbage.

Now, if you want a true method, I will send you a copy of my patent-pending spreadsheet.

lol, god I missed your spreadsheet references

[Bonatogether]

what even is an anchor post

Something they can use down the line to prove their mindset if it gets questioned down the road.

that's fake