Twenty questions, round 296

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#21 Post by Spartaculous » Wed May 29, 2024 4:29 pm

Aristocrat wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 4:27 pm
Born after 1900 (CE)?
Yes.

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#22 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed May 29, 2024 4:30 pm

Fascinating that this person was born in the last 120 or so years, yet the QM doesn't know exactly where.
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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#23 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed May 29, 2024 4:32 pm

Primarily known for politics/government/military/religion?

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#24 Post by Hominidae » Wed May 29, 2024 4:40 pm

Born 1934 or later?

If yes to both this and DreamTrawler's question, free guess: Kim Jong-il

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#25 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed May 29, 2024 4:44 pm

Hominidae wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 4:40 pm
Born 1934 or later?

If yes to both this and DreamTrawler's question, free guess: Kim Jong-il
This is an excellent guess.
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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#26 Post by Spartaculous » Wed May 29, 2024 4:50 pm

DreamTrawler wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 4:32 pm
Primarily known for politics/government/military/religion?
No.
Hominidae wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 4:40 pm
Born 1934 or later?
No.

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#27 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed May 29, 2024 4:53 pm

Dang, I thought Hominidae had it. I think the birthplace is still key

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#28 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed May 29, 2024 4:57 pm

Involved in the arts or writing?

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#29 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed May 29, 2024 4:58 pm

1. Born after 1300 CE on Terra and saw Sol at least once in their life.
2. Real human born after 1797 in the Northern Hemisphere.
3. Not born in the Americas.
4. Not a native speaker of an Indo-European language.
5. Had recent ancestors who lived in either Eastern Asia or South-eastern Asia (as defined by the UN geoscheme).
6. Male.
7. Dead.
8. Born after 1900.
9. Not primarily known for politics/government/military/religion/trout fishing.
10. Born before 1934.

PASSED: Born in what is now China, Taiwan or Japan.
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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#30 Post by Spartaculous » Wed May 29, 2024 5:01 pm

DreamTrawler wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 4:57 pm
Involved in the arts or writing?
No.

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#31 Post by JECE » Wed May 29, 2024 5:19 pm

Born in Chinese Outer Mongolia, Japanese-occupied Manchuria or Japanese-occupied Korea?
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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#32 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed May 29, 2024 5:21 pm

Was this person a: scientist, economist, historian, athlete, or inventor?

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#33 Post by cdngooner » Wed May 29, 2024 5:24 pm

Born in Chinese Outer Mongolia, Japanese-occupied Manchuria or Japanese-occupied Korea?
I see where you are going with this question, and I thought of Tibet and Hong Kong also, but the question QM passed on was "born in what is now China, Taiwan or Japan." These places you ask about are all now clearly in, or out, of one of these countries.

The pass has to be because his birthplace is unknown, not because its political status is questionable.

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#34 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed May 29, 2024 5:26 pm

cdngooner wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 5:24 pm
Born in Chinese Outer Mongolia, Japanese-occupied Manchuria or Japanese-occupied Korea?
I see where you are going with this question, and I thought of Tibet and Hong Kong also, but the question QM passed on was "born in what is now China, Taiwan or Japan." These places you ask about are all now clearly in, or out, of one of these countries.

The pass has to be because his birthplace is unknown, not because its political status is questionable.
If the QM is being really technical or political, they also could have passed because of the status of Taiwan I suppose. Though it is also the name of the island itself so idk.

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#35 Post by JECE » Wed May 29, 2024 5:44 pm

DreamTrawler wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 5:26 pm
cdngooner wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 5:24 pm
Born in Chinese Outer Mongolia, Japanese-occupied Manchuria or Japanese-occupied Korea?
I see where you are going with this question, and I thought of Tibet and Hong Kong also, but the question QM passed on was "born in what is now China, Taiwan or Japan." These places you ask about are all now clearly in, or out, of one of these countries.

The pass has to be because his birthplace is unknown, not because its political status is questionable.
If the QM is being really technical or political, they also could have passed because of the status of Taiwan I suppose. Though it is also the name of the island itself so idk.
OK, I'll withdraw the question. But unless this person was born on one of the South Kurils, I don't get the pass. I guess that the ROC may still technically claim Outer Mongolia?
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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#36 Post by Spartaculous » Wed May 29, 2024 6:08 pm

JECE wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 5:44 pm
DreamTrawler wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 5:26 pm
cdngooner wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 5:24 pm

I see where you are going with this question, and I thought of Tibet and Hong Kong also, but the question QM passed on was "born in what is now China, Taiwan or Japan." These places you ask about are all now clearly in, or out, of one of these countries.

The pass has to be because his birthplace is unknown, not because its political status is questionable.
If the QM is being really technical or political, they also could have passed because of the status of Taiwan I suppose. Though it is also the name of the island itself so idk.
OK, I'll withdraw the question. But unless this person was born on one of the South Kurils, I don't get the pass. I guess that the ROC may still technically claim Outer Mongolia?
Question is scratched.
DreamTrawler wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 5:21 pm
Was this person a: scientist, economist, historian, athlete, or inventor?
Pass.

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#37 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed May 29, 2024 6:23 pm

*Died* in what is now China, Taiwan, or Japan?

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#38 Post by Spartaculous » Wed May 29, 2024 6:42 pm

DreamTrawler wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 6:23 pm
*Died* in what is now China, Taiwan, or Japan?
No. (For purposes of clarity, in this question and the related one from before, there are no linguistical tricks about the geopolitical status of Taiwan: I would have no problem saying that Ang Lee was born in what is now Taiwan.)

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#39 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed May 29, 2024 6:47 pm

1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 10. Real dead male human born after 1900 CE and before 1934 CE.
2, 3. Born in the Northern Hemisphere; not born in the Americas.
4. Not a native speaker of an Indo-European language.
5. Had recent ancestors who lived in either Eastern Asia or South-eastern Asia (as defined by the UN geoscheme).
9. Not primarily known for politics/government/military/religion.
11. Not involved in arts or writing
12. Died outside of what is now China, Taiwan, or Japan

PASSED:
Born in what is now China, Taiwan, or Japan.
Was this person a: scientist, economist, historian, athlete, or inventor?

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Re: Twenty questions, round 296

#40 Post by cdngooner » Wed May 29, 2024 6:52 pm

We need to drill down on the reason for the pass on place of birth. I assume the place is unknown, but Spartaculous could be playing tricks with the political definition of the birthplace.

Do you know, or can one find out on the person's Wikipedia page (if they have one), where this person was born (even if the political expression of that place is uncertain)?

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