Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[Jamiet99uk]

The Cop can pretty much only be one of three people.

It isn't me

I think they should claim everything, and town can just clean this up and win.

[sweetandcool]

Can I sell my unused posts to posters in danger of surpassing the cap? Kind of like the carbon credits?

Yo, Ham sandwich, how are you? What's your strat for D1? I'd normally advise you to stay quiet since you always get voted D1, but since participation this game has been particularly flaccid, why not give us all some hot hot takes.

I think my strategy for D1 is to watch how the day ends. I haven't read anything closely enough to warrant throwing an opinion at the wall. I can't check the mafiabot here at work so when I last looked I thought I saw you in the lead.

I really like the notion of no nightchat. To be able to go back and process the day, track the voting, and develop some hypotheses/accusations/suspicions without the additional noise of night posting is a blessing for me. Maybe I can be on the right side of solving one of these things for once.

I suppose you didn't "say" you were excited, but you expressed excitement strongly.

It's actually why I've Town read you for most of the game. I would not expect you to be excited after rolling Mafia yet again.

[Hamilton Brian]

Can it be as simple as Just and Bona bussing one another on D1 for the "lulz?"

[Hamilton Brian]

I suppose you didn't "say" you were excited, but you expressed excitement strongly.

It's actually why I've Town read you for most of the game. I would not expect you to be excited after rolling Mafia yet again.

I disagree with what you read into my words. No matter though; I have barely played since things have been super busy for me here. So even me wanting to have that Night time to do some investigation without distraction from the game didn't pan out.

[Hamilton Brian]

Rereading bona's D5, they really went after sweet without considering vecna. Why was that?

My thinking is, if bona were mafia, to at least get back in later on to put a vote on Vecna.

To remain on sweet kind of looks like "dumb, stubborn town-play" because town is generally dumb and mistake-prone. So does such a move still give mafia!bona credibility?

[sweetandcool]

Rereading bona's D5, they really went after sweet without considering vecna. Why was that?

My thinking is, if bona were mafia, to at least get back in later on to put a vote on Vecna.

To remain on sweet kind of looks like "dumb, stubborn town-play" because town is generally dumb and mistake-prone. So does such a move still give mafia!bona credibility?

You are forgetting that Bona is likely our Clerk.

But also, I think Bona was being authentic. At one point I was worried he was Clerk and I was Miller.

Now I assume he was playing lazy like that as a way to be under the radar. Which worked brilliantly.

[Hamilton Brian]

Rereading bona's D5, they really went after sweet without considering vecna. Why was that?

My thinking is, if bona were mafia, to at least get back in later on to put a vote on Vecna.

To remain on sweet kind of looks like "dumb, stubborn town-play" because town is generally dumb and mistake-prone. So does such a move still give mafia!bona credibility?

You are forgetting that Bona is likely our Clerk.

But also, I think Bona was being authentic. At one point I was worried he was Clerk and I was Miller.

Now I assume he was playing lazy like that as a way to be under the radar. Which worked brilliantly.

And why again is bona likely the clerk?

If that was also insinuated within the thread, and I think it was but I definitely don't remember, then how would bona have avoided being the night kill?

[sweetandcool]

Rereading bona's D5, they really went after sweet without considering vecna. Why was that?

My thinking is, if bona were mafia, to at least get back in later on to put a vote on Vecna.

To remain on sweet kind of looks like "dumb, stubborn town-play" because town is generally dumb and mistake-prone. So does such a move still give mafia!bona credibility?

You are forgetting that Bona is likely our Clerk.

But also, I think Bona was being authentic. At one point I was worried he was Clerk and I was Miller.

Now I assume he was playing lazy like that as a way to be under the radar. Which worked brilliantly.

And why again is bona likely the clerk?

If that was also insinuated within the thread, and I think it was but I definitely don't remember, then how would bona have avoided being the night kill?

What do you mean? I am not surprised that given Bona's play he has not been the NK.

The only mystery really is why he didn't CC anyone.

[sweetandcool]

You are forgetting that Bona is likely our Clerk.

But also, I think Bona was being authentic. At one point I was worried he was Clerk and I was Miller.

Now I assume he was playing lazy like that as a way to be under the radar. Which worked brilliantly.

And why again is bona likely the clerk?

If that was also insinuated within the thread, and I think it was but I definitely don't remember, then how would bona have avoided being the night kill?

What do you mean? I am not surprised that given Bona's play he has not been the NK.

The only mystery really is why he didn't CC anyone.

I still haven't ruled out others as well. I haven't had a chance to really figure it out. Wouldn't be surprised if Jamiet was lying and just has nothing to give us, or even possibly Bozo.

[Hamilton Brian]

Bona's most interesting post was their take on the D1 wagons. Kind of all over the place with reads the remaining days.

Would vecna, as mafia, call out their scum partner for "powerwolfing?"

Maybe? Have you, sweet, intentionally gotten your teammates killed and gained some longevity by making up the crumbs you saw and getting "lucky?"

[sweetandcool]

Bona's most interesting post was their take on the D1 wagons. Kind of all over the place with reads the remaining days.

Would vecna, as mafia, call out their scum partner for "powerwolfing?"

Maybe? Have you, sweet, intentionally gotten your teammates killed and gained some longevity by making up the crumbs you saw and getting "lucky?"

It would certainly explain my luck.

But probably a horrible Mafia play since the risk of getting CC would be pretty high.

[Hamilton Brian]

Maybe. If I were cop it probably would have compelled me to scan you last night or the night before.

[sweetandcool]

Maybe. If I were cop it probably would have compelled me to scan you last night or the night before.

Exactly. Maybe it would be a reasonable suspicion if there were two Mafia left, and I sacrifice myself to push them to the end, but given the high likelihood of getting scanned I think that play is impossible.

No, for all intents and purposes O should probably be considered townclear.

[Hamilton Brian]

O ?

[sweetandcool]

O ?

I

[sweetandcool]

Ham, I really appreciate you trying to solve the game.

Unfortunately, I can only consider you and Pirate as the final scum, I've just been over it over and over and that's where I am stuck.

If you can build a case on Jamiet, Bozo, or Pirate then I would appreciate it. Maybe you will find something that I have missed. Something I've failed to consider or misinterpreted.

[Hamilton Brian]

Best I can posit right now will be based on VCA. Let me see how quickly I can do that.

But also consider...how much speculation have either of jamie or bozo been under? What have they done that is so hardtown?

[sweetandcool]

Best I can posit right now will be based on VCA. Let me see how quickly I can do that.

But also consider...how much speculation have either of jamie or bozo been under? What have they done that is so hardtown?

Bozo has been under a ton of scrutiny.

Sparta's and my own hypo scans support the theory that Bozo is Town.

Jamiet probably would have killed me if he was Mafia. He also has been authentically Town Jamiet in a way that is hard to fake.

[Hamilton Brian]

Votes as presented at EOD and not tracked as they happened?
Day 1

Just: sweet, bona, rivera, king, worcej, bunny, ghug
damo: sparta, balki, hamilton
bona: just, jamie, vecna
sparta: brain, bozo, food
sweet: damo

Day 2 This one had some late votes that weren’t counted
lord: jamie, king, sweet, sparta, hamilton
bozo: rivera, ghug, bunny, damo, worcej
sweet: bona, lord, vecna
vecna: balki
worcej: bozo

That bozo gave an uncounted vote for lord; was that to ensure the kill , self-preservation, or what?

Day 3:
lord: sparta, damo, hamilton, sweet, bunny
hamilton: worcej, bona, lord, king
bozo: balki, jamie
worcej: vecna, bozo

Day 4:
worcej: hamilton, king, sweet, jamie, balki, sparta, worcej
sweet: rivera/diplomacy, vecna, bona, bunny
bona: bozo

Day 5: 2nd vote-out of mafia
vecna: sweet, jamie, king, balki, bozo, hamilton, bunny, rivera/diplomacy
sweet: bona, vecna

Day 6: 3rd vote-out of mafia
rivera/diplomacy: balki, sweet, jamie, king, bozo, hamilton

Non-vote is bona; where are they?

And yes, I made myself blue as town since I know I am.

[Hamilton Brian]

Best I can posit right now will be based on VCA. Let me see how quickly I can do that.

But also consider...how much speculation have either of jamie or bozo been under? What have they done that is so hardtown?

Bozo has been under a ton of scrutiny.

Sparta's and my own hypo scans support the theory that Bozo is Town.

Jamiet probably would have killed me if he was Mafia. He also has been authentically Town Jamiet in a way that is hard to fake.

Explain how those hyposcans support the theory that bozo is town? No one writes them with any certainty.