Cultafia Game Thread

[damo666]

As previously said if it's 5-4 Mason cursed town have lost so we MUST assume Mason not cursed. From scum pov there were 4-5 mason candidates so quite likely mason is not cursed. Mason must not claim.

For scum to not control the lynch we must hope that N1 recruit failed (about a 1 in 6 chance) and/or N2 curse failed. It's pretty damn unlikely N2 recruit failed as Mason unlikely to bless the obvious soft recruit targets.

[damo666]

I'm seeing if I was cursed. I'm still confident Yavu is scum.

##VOTE DEMONRHK

DemonRHK saying he wanted to see if he was cursed also sounds like an excuse to remove himself from the curser pool.

Same could be said of you Bozo.

[damo666]

Fuck it if this loses we can find out right now
##End

If hes town we lose
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Brain unend please. Mason needs as much vote info as possible in order to exercise efficient NK

[damo666]

If there are 4 cult members, I think they are DrCJG, DemonRHK, brainbomb, and damo.

This is incorrect

[damo666]

DemonRHK is the most likely recruiter N1.

##VOTE DemonRHK

Why?

From VT pov curser1 is 1 of 3. Recruiter 1 is 1 of 6.
From Main pov it is 1/3 & 1/5 respectively.

So we are still scrabbling in the dark.

Scum less so as their Mason search is 1/4.

[damo666]

I think that if it's 5-4 there's a good chance curser 1 was used as recruiter 2 to avoid the risk of a recruiter 1 NK taking out 3 scum. We should therefore lynch from the curser pool.

##Vote DrCJG

Squigs and Bozo and brain please switch.

[damo666]

One further thing about mason claim - if mason himself or his bless in danger he should then claim, right? Not till fairly near EOD though.

[dargorygel]

Vote Count 3.01

DemonRHK (2): bozotheclown, squigs44
Squigs44 (1): brain
DrCJG (1): damo666

End: Brainbomb (squigs44)

The hangman is measuring DemonRHK’s neck for a noose.
LOTS of time left in this day.

[Squigs44]

Brain you're being an idiot and we both know it. You're probably cult follower trying to bait a vote on yourself to protect your recruiter.

Damo - CJG was likely the Mason bless late night just based on the urges of players. Since he didn't die, I think lynching him is not optimal. This is one upside to mason claiming, since they would be able to give us a clear. Since mason hasn't claimed, I think we all need to consolidate on RHK as cult recruiter option.

[DemonRHK]

Wow. Neither desired result came to pass last night. The Mason missed AND I'm still town.

Mason doesn't have much choice, they have to reveal. If they're cursed, they're dead anyway.

I'm going to assume worst case, which is cult hit both recruits and did it is the most intelligent way, meaning There is a solo leader and a leader with two followers.

I wholeheartedly believe the second leader was not on the Yavu lynch. I also know it's not me. The leaves Squigs and Bozo, becuase I'm also operating under the assumption Worc was the N1 bless.

Bozo flipped off of Yavu, and assuming (currently) Mason aimed for Doc, he's clear, so that means that there is a leader between Damo, Brain, and Neph. My money is on brain currently.

Bozo-Brain

We need the most dead to restore majority, and hopefully force them to have to recruit so the mason can finish the job if they aren't cursed.

##Vote Bozo

[bozotheclown]

I'm seeing if I was cursed. I'm still confident Yavu is scum.

##VOTE DEMONRHK

DemonRHK saying he wanted to see if he was cursed also sounds like an excuse to remove himself from the curser pool.

Didn't you do the same thing for the same reason?

Yes, I moved my vote to remove myself from what I assumed would be the curser pool, but I did not try to make a different excuse for it. Since I was so widely scum read, I knew if I ended in the curser pool that I would be a top suspect. Now, for me to be a scum leader you would have to think I recruited instead of cursed N1.

[bozotheclown]

I wanna point out the 4 cultists couldve hammered and won by now if squiggs was town.

This is not accurate. First, this would only be true if brainbomb was town. Second, a town lynch makes it 4-4 worse case, not a cult majority, giving the mason another chance to night kill a cult leader.

brainbomb does not make these kind of mistakes as town, his suggestions should be dismissed as cult.

[bozotheclown]

Sorry to run off right after posting EON. I had dinner plans to get to and am just now back.

I was not converted (which is exactly what I would tell you if I had been, of course) and am not the Mason. You still need to lynch me, because there simply isn't enough information about this slot for you to ever trust it. I should be read up enough by tomorrow to be able start saying useful things (and maybe guess at who Damo thinks the Mason obviously is...).

Is Fox's call for self lynch against wincon if he had been converted? Discuss.

I think it's debatable since it would be preferable to lynch his recruiter but not Essential.

If Fox not converted the soft option would be Worcej.

No, he could call for his lynch to sound like town. Also, it would be in the best interest of the cult to lynch a follower over a leader.

[bozotheclown]

I'm seeing if I was cursed. I'm still confident Yavu is scum.

##VOTE DEMONRHK

DemonRHK saying he wanted to see if he was cursed also sounds like an excuse to remove himself from the curser pool.

Same could be said of you Bozo.

See the following:

DemonRHK saying he wanted to see if he was cursed also sounds like an excuse to remove himself from the curser pool.

Didn't you do the same thing for the same reason?

Yes, I moved my vote to remove myself from what I assumed would be the curser pool, but I did not try to make a different excuse for it. Since I was so widely scum read, I knew if I ended in the curser pool that I would be a top suspect. Now, for me to be a scum leader you would have to think I recruited instead of cursed N1.

[bozotheclown]

DemonRHK is the most likely recruiter N1.

##VOTE DemonRHK

Why?

From VT pov curser1 is 1 of 3. Recruiter 1 is 1 of 6.
From Main pov it is 1/3 & 1/5 respectively.

So we are still scrabbling in the dark.

Scum less so as their Mason search is 1/4.

There are still 4 in the curser pool, including you.

[bozotheclown]

I think that if it's 5-4 there's a good chance curser 1 was used as recruiter 2 to avoid the risk of a recruiter 1 NK taking out 3 scum. We should therefore lynch from the curser pool.

##Vote DrCJG

Squigs and Bozo and brain please switch.

Yes, each cult may have recruited once, but we know the N1 recruiter has at least one follower. Also, you could be the N1 curser or a converted cult.

[worcej]

Getting caught up - have thoughts:

1. Can confirm that a cult leader was on Jaime, this isn't new, but the way I am thinking of this is who is the clever player that would know to stay on the same wagon as Jaime? By doing that, they stay hidden. This isn't super obvious, so it's someone with some good insight in these games.
2. My leading theory is the Mason attempted to recruit last night, not kill. The only value in a mason claiming, WHICH I AM NOT A PROPONENT OF, is that it would narrow down our pool of people in the yavu votes. But the pool is narrow enough anyways, so I'm just going to use my insight.
3. Anyone focused on not the obvious leader hidden amongst the votes yavu is a fool and I am highly scum reading you from here on out. Bozo and Squigs, I am looking at you two.
4. BB's mistake on the end hammer does seem off, but also BB is generally just off... I am not sure I read into this much myself.

So going back to point 1, I narrow it down to DrCJG and BB as my two candidates for death today. Of the two, honestly DrCJG is the one that stands out of the two to me - I know he's smart and able to get mechanics down.

##vote DrCJG - lord help me that I am agreeing with Damo...

[bozotheclown]

Brain you're being an idiot and we both know it. You're probably cult follower trying to bait a vote on yourself to protect your recruiter.

Damo - CJG was likely the Mason bless late night just based on the urges of players. Since he didn't die, I think lynching him is not optimal. This is one upside to mason claiming, since they would be able to give us a clear. Since mason hasn't claimed, I think we all need to consolidate on RHK as cult recruiter option.

I agree with this, which is why I think it is possible damo or brainbomb may have been the N1 curser, and Nephthys should not be ruled out.

[bozotheclown]

Wow. Neither desired result came to pass last night. The Mason missed AND I'm still town.

Mason doesn't have much choice, they have to reveal. If they're cursed, they're dead anyway.

I'm going to assume worst case, which is cult hit both recruits and did it is the most intelligent way, meaning There is a solo leader and a leader with two followers.

I wholeheartedly believe the second leader was not on the Yavu lynch. I also know it's not me. The leaves Squigs and Bozo, becuase I'm also operating under the assumption Worc was the N1 bless.

Bozo flipped off of Yavu, and assuming (currently) Mason aimed for Doc, he's clear, so that means that there is a leader between Damo, Brain, and Neph. My money is on brain currently.

Bozo-Brain

We need the most dead to restore majority, and hopefully force them to have to recruit so the mason can finish the job if they aren't cursed.

##Vote Bozo

The mason should not reveal, as I previously explained.

For the recruiter to be me instead of DemonRHK, you would have to assume I was chosen to recruit over curse N1 after 7 different players voted to lynch me D1.

[damo666]

Brain you're being an idiot and we both know it. You're probably cult follower trying to bait a vote on yourself to protect your recruiter.

Damo - CJG was likely the Mason bless late night just based on the urges of players. Since he didn't die, I think lynching him is not optimal. This is one upside to mason claiming, since they would be able to give us a clear. Since mason hasn't claimed, I think we all need to consolidate on RHK as cult recruiter option.

Would you consider voting Bozo or Neph?