Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[damo666]

alright, that's fair. though I hope for an explanation later down the line.

I also don't want to vote ham right now, at least until someone explains to me what ham is claiming, I'm super confused as to the state of that discussion.

he crumbed CLERK day 1

he strongly hinted at it under pressure EOD2

he now says he is vt and was trying to eat a NK (thus explaining why he couldn't reveal any scans and avoided ghug's and my call for them)

So Damo.

You are strongly confident that Hamilton is town because he planted a fake crumb and then fake claimed PR to save his own skin.

He's been telling a whole load of lies, so he must be town.

This is your viewpoint?

My viewpoint is give him the benefit of the doubt until we get a scan result. Wcs clerk is the N3 NK and we are left in a quandary and lose the first 2 night's scans. If clerk reveals scans today there will be no chance of scanning Ham. It's a bit of a gamble but one I'd rather take than a possible mk. I think a mk of Ham is a far greater probabilty than scum hitting the Clerk. Even if Ham is scum there are two others we can get today.

[Jamiet99uk]

Since Ham is here, I'm going to ask that if there was fair amount of belief that Ham was a cop ... why is he still alive?

Seems he would be a prime scum target. Explain this to me.

It's ä mystery.

[damo666]

Hamilton implied he was cop to avoid being the D2 DK, and is now saying he is not the cop but was trying to draw the NK. Mafia claiming a PR to avoid a DK when they are confident the DK will be diverted to a town is a common mafia play.

This summary omits the all important D1 crumb. Why bozo? Inconvenient?

The all important D1 crumb that you now think was a lie, but you also believe it?

I think it was a misdirection.

[damo666]

Why didn't you believe that before?

Why have you made a 100% u-turn?

I didn't see the crumb until after he revealed it. I don't think anyone else did either.

He was sorting for quite a bit of D2 as well, had you missed those?

Obv not, I was pressing him to reveal scans.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think that the more curious thing about the Hamilton situation is that he was not role blocked last night. I don't believe we've had a RB claim today, have we?

I was just wondering about that.

I'm guessing Mafia just RB the NK.

They probably don't want to create anymore pseudo clears.

Obviously nobody would have believed Ham based on EoD2, so it is unsurprising they didn't even bother RBing him.

Or who knows, maybe I've got it all wrong and he is Mafia (insert shrug emoji)

The Jailor is dead. RBing the NK is the same as not using it.

[Jamiet99uk]

At this point, bozo votes for Bona, Bunny, and worcej in very quick succession, none of which are getting any other votes.

@Bozo:

Why did you do that?

[damo666]

Since Ham is here, I'm going to ask that if there was fair amount of belief that Ham was a cop ... why is he still alive?

Seems he would be a prime scum target. Explain this to me.

It's ä mystery.

Because the claim looked weak so they took a kill on an experienced player who might have been PR assuming if Ham was left we would mk him today as he clearly wasn't Clerk.

[damo666]

I think that the more curious thing about the Hamilton situation is that he was not role blocked last night. I don't believe we've had a RB claim today, have we?

I was just wondering about that.

I'm guessing Mafia just RB the NK.

They probably don't want to create anymore pseudo clears.

Obviously nobody would have believed Ham based on EoD2, so it is unsurprising they didn't even bother RBing him.

Or who knows, maybe I've got it all wrong and he is Mafia (insert shrug emoji)

The Jailor is dead. RBing the NK is the same as not using it.

If Ham were scum don't you think he'd have claimed RB?

[Jamiet99uk]

Wow, I think I agree with your assessment, though Vecna is null for me.

What's tickling you about Vecna?

Who do you want to talk about?

In order of willingness to vote for:

ghug
Jamiet
Will

Not willing to vote for:

bona
Balki
brainbomb

When you said you agreed with Just's assessment, it sounds like you meant his town read of Jamie, so why did Jamie become one of your top scum reads?

Wow, I can't even figure out why I particularly asked Will that. I'm guessing it was because Vecna and Jamiet were online?

I know for a decent portion of D1 I was suffering paranoia about ghug and Jamiet being teammates. Probably had something to do with them both voting me in an insufferable manner (sidenote, imagine my disappointment when they both claimed RB).

But yeah, drawing a total blank here. I don't recall ever towning Jamiet D1, but you are correct that that post was indicating it.

Best guess is I was buttering Will up an just trying to get some thoughts out of him.

But I am Ghug's team mate.

[Jamiet99uk]

i think you're scum

What are your reasons for thinking that?

Try to give a better answer than Sweetandcool would give.

What did the reference to sweetandcool mean in this D1 post?

At the point of time in question, Sweetandcool was voting based on a random number.

[Chaqa]

GM Note:
Due to ongoing climate catastrophes in his town, Rivera has had to sub out to help volunteer and tend to things.

D&W has offered to sub in. Let's hope the bot likes this.

Diplomacy&Warfare has replaced rdrivera2005

[Spartaculous]

GM Note:
Due to ongoing climate catastrophes in his town, Rivera has had to sub out to help volunteer and tend to things.

D&W has offered to sub in. Let's hope the bot likes this.

Diplomacy&Warfare has replaced rdrivera2005

Welcome D&W!

[BunnyGo]

GM Note:
Due to ongoing climate catastrophes in his town, Rivera has had to sub out to help volunteer and tend to things.

D&W has offered to sub in. Let's hope the bot likes this.

Diplomacy&Warfare has replaced rdrivera2005

Thanks Diplomacy.

Best of luck rdr.

[damo666]

Well done rdr.

@Dip was rdr bussing D1?

[Vecna]

alright, I see day2 was quite eventful. I nearly died. Well that wouldve been hilarious.

[Vecna]

##vote hamilton brian

[Bonatogether]

This game just got made a lot easier by the newer players putting in a few killer posts that pretty much absolves them.

The irritation with certain players is palpable.

Balki Bartokomous
kingofthepirates
Rdrivera2005
Bonatogether
Bozotheclown
Spartaculous
BunnyGo
Jamiet99uk
damo666
Lord of Words
ghug
Vecna
The above group is probably all town, in no particular order

Leaving a very easy poe:
Hamilton Brian
Sweetandcool
worcej

Maybe im wrong about 1, which is likely either Rdrivera, Kotp or Bona if some weird bussing occured.

But for now, fuck whether any of these slots bussed or not, thats a crapshoot anyway. Reads reign supreme.

I was not sure about Vecna, but I like this post because I think his POE are all reasonable scum candidates, including his 3 alternates.

it's basically claiming a gamesolve on d2. this is a scummy post

[Bonatogether]

Another theory I had was that it could be Bonatogether, worcej, and BunnyGo, who all had posts ready to go at the beginning of D2, while most of us who are town waited to see if we survived N1 before resuming the game. If it was something they decided in mafia chat, they might have overlooked that it showed a lack of concern about being the N1 NK.

can a guy not want to contribute to the vast wealth of his town without being called scummy for it?

[Vecna]

This game just got made a lot easier by the newer players putting in a few killer posts that pretty much absolves them.

The irritation with certain players is palpable.

Balki Bartokomous
kingofthepirates
Rdrivera2005
Bonatogether
Bozotheclown
Spartaculous
BunnyGo
Jamiet99uk
damo666
Lord of Words
ghug
Vecna
The above group is probably all town, in no particular order

Leaving a very easy poe:
Hamilton Brian
Sweetandcool
worcej

Maybe im wrong about 1, which is likely either Rdrivera, Kotp or Bona if some weird bussing occured.

But for now, fuck whether any of these slots bussed or not, thats a crapshoot anyway. Reads reign supreme.

I was not sure about Vecna, but I like this post because I think his POE are all reasonable scum candidates, including his 3 alternates.

it's basically claiming a gamesolve on d2. this is a scummy post

saying that a group of people is "probable town" and that im unsure of 3 of the people in there due to bussing is not claiming a gamesolve.

Regardless, I still think my solution is not that far off. Funnily enough after I posted that all of them happily joined my wagon with some support from our good friends damo and balki.

[Bonatogether]

anything exciting happening

Everyone's naming their top three predictions for remaining Mafia. Who are yours?

i refuse to participate in bonzo surveys on principle