Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[Lord of Words]

But to reiterate, yeah, an explanation about or from Ham would be great.

[damo666]

Out right now; will address when I get home. Did NOT work out like I thought or hoped it would.

@everyone please DO NOT discuss Ham until he posts

We do not want to suggest anything to him

[damo666]

But to reiterate, yeah, an explanation about or from Ham would be great.

FROM only, not about until he has spoken. Please.

[damo666]

I believe worcej re the tie

[damo666]

If D2 was TvT the remaining scum are precisely {Bona, Vecna, Balki}.

I suspect that is unlikely therefore we should DK either LoW or bozo today.

[sweetandcool]

Out right now; will address when I get home. Did NOT work out like I thought or hoped it would.

@everyone please DO NOT discuss Ham until he posts

We do not want to suggest anything to him

Fair. Probably too late but yeah I will refrain.

Thoughts on Bozo's voting?

Explanation for why you decided to vote Bozo EoD?

[damo666]

HB lived - so here we are.

##vote Hamilton
##end

@worcej

a) please don't endvote yet
b) you should let Ham speak before voting him
c) see my post where I suggest we should stick to {LoW & bozo} for today's vote.

[damo666]

With 2 scans in the bag (dead people notwithstanding) we are in a good position.

[bozotheclown]

If you read the thread with VCA, you can explain Bozo's rapidfire votes. For some reason he decided to puncuate his list of potential D1 bussers by voting them.

Then he sits back and watches while under some danger.

Understandably, the last second gut punch from damo and worcej caught him by surprise.

But what I don't understand is why he didn't vote LoW or sweetandcool sooner.

Presumably, since he townread LoW he didn't want to vote him. But why not his scumread sweetandcool?

If bozo is Mafia, it makes sense he wouldn't want to vote his teammate sweetandcool.

But since I know I am town, I can't understand this behavior.

It kind of makes sense that Bozo is town, but I don't understand why Town Bozo wouldn't vote his scumread.

The best answer I came up with is that Bozo actually wanted to tie with his Teammate LoW. That actually does make some sense. But then why the late vote on LoW? Why attempt it? Maybe he didn't even see damo and worcej flip to him, and so he tried a last second vote for credit catching Mafia LoW?

I'm not exactly convinced, but it's the best I could come up with.

I didn't want you or LoW to be the DK. I still think it is possible you were bussing D1, but I think there are more likely bussers. I was OK voting for LoW if it was necessary to prevent me from being the DK, because even though I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, his conflicting answers about when he knew about foodcoats is concerning. It looked like it was not going to be necessary, but at the end I tried to vote to break the tie, but was too late.

I don't know why you think my voting would make it any more likely for there to be a tie.

[Lord of Words]

But to reiterate, yeah, an explanation about or from Ham would be great.

FROM only, not about until he has spoken. Please.

Alright, fine.

[Lord of Words]

I believe worcej re the tie

Was Worcej ever in doubt in here?

[damo666]

Out right now; will address when I get home. Did NOT work out like I thought or hoped it would.

@everyone please DO NOT discuss Ham until he posts

We do not want to suggest anything to him

Fair. Probably too late but yeah I will refrain.

Thoughts on Bozo's voting?

Explanation for why you decided to vote Bozo EoD?

Bozo was clearly just spinning through potential Will bussers. A bit pointless and lazy.

I switched from bozo to Ham with 3 minutes to go (to see who might move where) but after 2 minutes nobody else had moved so I switched to bozo to see if he would switch to LoW.

It's curious neither LoW or bozo voted for each other.

I suspect they are both scum. If they are both scum then I think the third man is either Vecna, Balki, Bona or worcej in that order with the first 2 much more likely than the last 2.

[sweetandcool]

If you read the thread with VCA, you can explain Bozo's rapidfire votes. For some reason he decided to puncuate his list of potential D1 bussers by voting them.

Then he sits back and watches while under some danger.

Understandably, the last second gut punch from damo and worcej caught him by surprise.

But what I don't understand is why he didn't vote LoW or sweetandcool sooner.

Presumably, since he townread LoW he didn't want to vote him. But why not his scumread sweetandcool?

If bozo is Mafia, it makes sense he wouldn't want to vote his teammate sweetandcool.

But since I know I am town, I can't understand this behavior.

It kind of makes sense that Bozo is town, but I don't understand why Town Bozo wouldn't vote his scumread.

The best answer I came up with is that Bozo actually wanted to tie with his Teammate LoW. That actually does make some sense. But then why the late vote on LoW? Why attempt it? Maybe he didn't even see damo and worcej flip to him, and so he tried a last second vote for credit catching Mafia LoW?

I'm not exactly convinced, but it's the best I could come up with.

I didn't want you or LoW to be the DK. I still think it is possible you were bussing D1, but I think there are more likely bussers. I was OK voting for LoW if it was necessary to prevent me from being the DK, because even though I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, his conflicting answers about when he knew about foodcoats is concerning. It looked like it was not going to be necessary, but at the end I tried to vote to break the tie, but was too late.

I don't know why you think my voting would make it any more likely for there to be a tie.

Thanks.

Yeah, you didn't really have an opportunity to try to cause a tie, the tie just happened to fall in your lap.

I think you stayed off wagon so that you had the flexibility to cause a tie or even MK if you had the opportunity.

I still don't get why you preferred LoW or Bozo as the DK over sweetandcool.

Is this your normal strat when you are under pressure? I might have to check out some old games if I have the energy.

[bozotheclown]

If D2 was TvT the remaining scum are precisely {Bona, Vecna, Balki}.

I suspect that is unlikely therefore we should DK either LoW or bozo today.

What is this based on? Are you just town reading everyone else?

[sweetandcool]

@everyone please DO NOT discuss Ham until he posts

We do not want to suggest anything to him

Fair. Probably too late but yeah I will refrain.

Thoughts on Bozo's voting?

Explanation for why you decided to vote Bozo EoD?

Bozo was clearly just spinning through potential Will bussers. A bit pointless and lazy.

I switched from bozo to Ham with 3 minutes to go (to see who might move where) but after 2 minutes nobody else had moved so I switched to bozo to see if he would switch to LoW.

It's curious neither LoW or bozo voted for each other.

I suspect they are both scum. If they are both scum then I think the third man is either Vecna, Balki, Bona or worcej in that order with the first 2 much more likely than the last 2.

Precisely my thoughts.

Yeah, the most curious part of Bozo's voting isn't the rapidfire votes but the fact he held off of voting LoW or sweetandcool, until that last second vote.

[damo666]

I believe worcej re the tie

Was Worcej ever in doubt in here?

People here tend to be distrustful of people causing a tie. I think that's why worcej was making the point.

[Spartaculous]

It's curious neither LoW or bozo voted for each other.

bozo voted for LoW, but it just barely missed the cutoff.

[damo666]

If D2 was TvT the remaining scum are precisely {Bona, Vecna, Balki}.

I suspect that is unlikely therefore we should DK either LoW or bozo today.

What is this based on? Are you just town reading everyone else?

Just realised I'm talking rubbish. Sorry.

[bozotheclown]

@everyone please DO NOT discuss Ham until he posts

We do not want to suggest anything to him

Fair. Probably too late but yeah I will refrain.

Thoughts on Bozo's voting?

Explanation for why you decided to vote Bozo EoD?

Bozo was clearly just spinning through potential Will bussers. A bit pointless and lazy.

I switched from bozo to Ham with 3 minutes to go (to see who might move where) but after 2 minutes nobody else had moved so I switched to bozo to see if he would switch to LoW.

It's curious neither LoW or bozo voted for each other.

I suspect they are both scum. If they are both scum then I think the third man is either Vecna, Balki, Bona or worcej in that order with the first 2 much more likely than the last 2.

I think LoW was probably sticking with voting for a scum read, which is what I was doing.

[damo666]

It's curious neither LoW or bozo voted for each other.

bozo voted for LoW, but it just barely missed the cutoff.

If he wanted to vote he'd have done at :59