Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[damo666]

From an off Will vt pov the cop is more likely to be on Will's wagon than not.

(For Sparta/Bunny).

Untrue because I forgot LoW was also off Will.

This also impacts the scan theory.

[damo666]

Didn't Just say you were a maths teacher?

Draw a picture, or step forward in time.

Okay, let me try.

We assume no bussing, so there are three mafia players left among the following list of eight non-Will voters: {Balki, bozo, damo, Brian, Jamie, Lord, Spartaculous, Vecna}

To continue my previous example, Balki scans Vecna (again, just picking two at random).

If Balki gets a "town" reading, then we know Vecna is clear (since the godfather is out). Balki can announce this to everyone, and, if it is believed [I don't know why it wouldn't be believed], then that leaves three mafia in a pool of six players. Those six players can be taken out one-by-one. At this point, there should be thirteen players left (because we are at fifteen right now, and there will be two more gone by the end of night #2), so we win, and there was much rejoicing. Is that right?

But what if Balki gets a "mafia" reading? That doesn't mean that Vecna is mafia, since we have a Miller in play (I think I'm understanding that correctly; let me know if I am wrong). I don't see the solve from there. Can you help me connect the dots?

Ah…I forgot about the miller.

But your first process is correct: worst case for town is of cop is in the Just wagon. Then they clear another player with a TOWN scan (say Vecna).


We now have 8 clears and 7 unknown. Best scum can do is eliminate a clear at night. And town wins the race eliminating in the unknown pool.


If cop gets a SCUM scan…it’s less good. But since I’m the Miller, that’s not possible if they scan outside the Just wagon.

Miller gets a vt role msg

[damo666]

Explain yourself Bunny

[Jamiet99uk]

I am going to place my currency where my cake hole is.

##Vote TheLordOfWords for the reason I have clearly set out.

Besides low activity anchor posts, what do you know of Lord? And the fact he keeps ducking my question.

Does this not also read as eager but busy new town?

I have sensed no eagerness at all.

I have never met the guy.

[BunnyGo]

Bunny is a liar

Obv. What this time?

[BunnyGo]

Explain yourself Bunny

It’s called a joke! Was supposed to be obvious. Also Miller is given VT PM…cmon damo…wake up.

[BunnyGo]

Explain yourself Bunny

It’s called a joke! Was supposed to be obvious. Also Miller is given VT PM…cmon damo…wake up.

That said, I don’t expect scum damo to be this incompetent. Get in my town pool damo!

[damo666]

Explain yourself Bunny

It’s called a joke! Was supposed to be obvious. Also Miller is given VT PM…cmon damo…wake up.

I was unaware you're a comedian.

[Spartaculous]

Ah…I forgot about the miller.

But your first process is correct: worst case for town is of cop is in the Just wagon. Then they clear another player with a TOWN scan (say Vecna).


We now have 8 clears and 7 unknown. Best scum can do is eliminate a clear at night. And town wins the race eliminating in the unknown pool.


If cop gets a SCUM scan…it’s less good. But since I’m the Miller, that’s not possible if they scan outside the Just wagon.

Miller gets a vt role msg

Explain yourself Bunny

I don't like this.

##VOTE BunnyGo

Explain yourself Bunny

It’s called a joke! Was supposed to be obvious. Also Miller is given VT PM…cmon damo…wake up.

Maybe BunnyGo is joking; maybe it was meant to be a genuine claim.

Anyways, I don't like this, but I would like to hear from other experienced players how likely it is for BunnyGo to make this kind of joke.

[Spartaculous]

I am going to place my currency where my cake hole is.

##Vote TheLordOfWords for the reason I have clearly set out.

Jamie, you should delete "The" for this to be valid.

[Jamiet99uk]

I am going to place my currency where my cake hole is.

##Vote TheLordOfWords for the reason I have clearly set out.

Jamie, you should delete "The" for this to be valid.

Ah.

##Vote LordofWords

[Bonatogether]

My respect for damo's ability as a player makes me think this is less likely to be a mistake.

##VOTE damo for now until I can wrap my head around this sordid affair and also complete my D1 analysis.

scum post

I'm too sick and tired to bother dealing with this. I think it's possible you've tunneled me every single game we've played together, which is unfortunate because I enjoy playing with you.

Oh well, maybe you'll help me solve in your own special way.

Thanks Bona.

perhaps true

[Bonatogether]

please respond to my posts though

[Bonatogether]

Goodnight everyone. I look forward to waking up to ghug voting me and bona dismissing my posts and calling me scum.

Probably not getting much more effort out of me this phase.

I'm disappointed that I didn't build a case that has potential to convince others, but I do feel good about essentially sheeping brainbomb. It feels like the right thing to do.

And so far nobody has really explored WHY brainbomb was killed particularly. I think scumteam was panicking and brainbomb was sussing at least two of them, and potentially even all three.

occam's razor suggests brain was just a good player.

[Bonatogether]

why the emphasis on we must sheep brainbomb, but only on the sparta read? why not on vecna?

[Bonatogether]

I am going to place my currency where my cake hole is.

##Vote TheLordOfWords for the reason I have clearly set out.

jimmit vote for sweet

[Jamiet99uk]

I am going to place my currency where my cake hole is.

##Vote TheLordOfWords for the reason I have clearly set out.

jimmit vote for sweet

I would do if my vanity wagon on LordofWords does not take off. But I hope it does.

Sweet is probably scum too.

[damo666]

I am going to place my currency where my cake hole is.

##Vote TheLordOfWords for the reason I have clearly set out.

jimmit vote for sweet

sweet ain't scum

[damo666]

Ah…I forgot about the miller.

But your first process is correct: worst case for town is of cop is in the Just wagon. Then they clear another player with a TOWN scan (say Vecna).


We now have 8 clears and 7 unknown. Best scum can do is eliminate a clear at night. And town wins the race eliminating in the unknown pool.


If cop gets a SCUM scan…it’s less good. But since I’m the Miller, that’s not possible if they scan outside the Just wagon.

Miller gets a vt role msg

Explain yourself Bunny

I don't like this.

##VOTE BunnyGo

Explain yourself Bunny

It’s called a joke! Was supposed to be obvious. Also Miller is given VT PM…cmon damo…wake up.

Maybe BunnyGo is joking; maybe it was meant to be a genuine claim.

Anyways, I don't like this, but I would like to hear from other experienced players how likely it is for BunnyGo to make this kind of joke.

Bunny wouldn't make a mistake like this, he was joking, however that is NAI

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe BunnyGo is joking; maybe it was meant to be a genuine claim.

Anyways, I don't like this, but I would like to hear from other experienced players how likely it is for BunnyGo to make this kind of joke.

I am an experienced player so I will respond to this.

This is exactly the kind of thing Bunny would joke about.

Bunny is wise enough to know that Millers get a VT PM (Miller wouldn't have the same effect in the game if it was self-aware; a self-aware Miller would have a very different dynamic in terms of gameplay). He "claimed" Miller in the same post as acknowledging the existence of the Miller changes the effectiveness of the Cop, and it was very clearly a joke, to me.