Cultafia Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

I looked over yavuzovic's posts, and while he always says things that look suspicious, he comes across as town to me this game. Jamie and brainbomb seem to be putting in a lot of effort to solve the game, so they are both currently town reads for me. I think Squigs is probably town as well, I think he is putting in effort to solve the game as well, and I doubt he would push to lead a lynch on me D1 as scum when he could have gone along with another town lynch of ChippeRock. damo seems like town to me as well, and he said something that made it sound like he thought there was only one cult leader, which is subtle enough that it was probably not fake. Assuming I am right about Jamie, I will read worcej as town for now. That leaves DemonRHK, DrCJG, Nephthys, and Yoyoyozo. Yoyoyozo is a complete unknown, and I doubt he was recruited, but he could be a cult leader. My guess, assuming my town reads are correct, and based on rereading DemonRHK, DrCJG, and Nephthys is that DrCJG and Nephthys are the cult leaders and they recruited DemonRHK, with Yoyoyozo as the next likely scum.

Since DrCJG and Nephthys do not currently have any votes, I will

##VOTE DemonRHK

Why are you voting the guy you think is cult follower rather than cult leader? Those are the guys we need to kill. Maybe Neph is Bozos cultmate and Bozo is trying to scumread him without voting him. I'll have to reread that tomorrow morning.

My last comment answers this question. If you want to vote for DrCJG or Nephthys I will move my vote to them. We need to get to 7 votes on someone to prevent a potential curse from altering the lynch.

[brainbomb]

Why would cult ever want RHK

[bozotheclown]

RHK was really not amazing day 1 so I dont see why he wouldve been culted lmao

I think DemonRHK would have been considered a low risk to be lynched. Also, DemonRHK could be a cult leader. If my town reads are correct, and two of DemonRHK, DrCJG, Nephthys, and Yoyoyozo could be the leaders.

[brainbomb]

The things I would look for as cult are simple

■did they lead a mislynch
■are they widely townread
■was their play above the rim decent
■were they scumreading me or my partner.

Ideally you dont wanna convert ppl scumreading you. Doesnt make alot of sense like ya it clears a threat to you. But it just makes the game super hard for your convert.

So ideally cult wants to cult folks who are targeting town already. So they can continue doing the shit theyre doing and display no sign of change

[bozotheclown]

I looked over yavuzovic's posts, and while he always says things that look suspicious, he comes across as town to me this game. Jamie and brainbomb seem to be putting in a lot of effort to solve the game, so they are both currently town reads for me. I think Squigs is probably town as well, I think he is putting in effort to solve the game as well, and I doubt he would push to lead a lynch on me D1 as scum when he could have gone along with another town lynch of ChippeRock. damo seems like town to me as well, and he said something that made it sound like he thought there was only one cult leader, which is subtle enough that it was probably not fake. Assuming I am right about Jamie, I will read worcej as town for now. That leaves DemonRHK, DrCJG, Nephthys, and Yoyoyozo. Yoyoyozo is a complete unknown, and I doubt he was recruited, but he could be a cult leader. My guess, assuming my town reads are correct, and based on rereading DemonRHK, DrCJG, and Nephthys is that DrCJG and Nephthys are the cult leaders and they recruited DemonRHK, with Yoyoyozo as the next likely scum.

Since DrCJG and Nephthys do not currently have any votes, I will

##VOTE DemonRHK

Why are you voting the guy you think is cult follower rather than cult leader? Those are the guys we need to kill. Maybe Neph is Bozos cultmate and Bozo is trying to scumread him without voting him. I'll have to reread that tomorrow morning.

Also, you really need to stop basing all your reads on the assumption I am scum. Can you tell me where you disagree with my town reads?

[brainbomb]

Okay yoyo plays this way as town also. Just fyi

[Squigs44]

I looked over yavuzovic's posts, and while he always says things that look suspicious, he comes across as town to me this game. Jamie and brainbomb seem to be putting in a lot of effort to solve the game, so they are both currently town reads for me. I think Squigs is probably town as well, I think he is putting in effort to solve the game as well, and I doubt he would push to lead a lynch on me D1 as scum when he could have gone along with another town lynch of ChippeRock. damo seems like town to me as well, and he said something that made it sound like he thought there was only one cult leader, which is subtle enough that it was probably not fake. Assuming I am right about Jamie, I will read worcej as town for now. That leaves DemonRHK, DrCJG, Nephthys, and Yoyoyozo. Yoyoyozo is a complete unknown, and I doubt he was recruited, but he could be a cult leader. My guess, assuming my town reads are correct, and based on rereading DemonRHK, DrCJG, and Nephthys is that DrCJG and Nephthys are the cult leaders and they recruited DemonRHK, with Yoyoyozo as the next likely scum.

Since DrCJG and Nephthys do not currently have any votes, I will

##VOTE DemonRHK

Why are you voting the guy you think is cult follower rather than cult leader? Those are the guys we need to kill. Maybe Neph is Bozos cultmate and Bozo is trying to scumread him without voting him. I'll have to reread that tomorrow morning.

My last comment answers this question. If you want to vote for DrCJG or Nephthys I will move my vote to them. We need to get to 7 votes on someone to prevent a potential curse from altering the lynch.

Its still more than 12 hours away from deadline. You can build a wagon in that time if you put together a legit case. Also, RHK has 1 vote, which isn't much better than the other two.

[bozotheclown]

The things I would look for as cult are simple

■did they lead a mislynch
■are they widely townread
■was their play above the rim decent
■were they scumreading me or my partner.

Ideally you dont wanna convert ppl scumreading you. Doesnt make alot of sense like ya it clears a threat to you. But it just makes the game super hard for your convert.

So ideally cult wants to cult folks who are targeting town already. So they can continue doing the shit theyre doing and display no sign of change

I don't remember DemonRHK, DrCJG, or Nephthys scum reading each other D1, and there were no votes among them D1.

Which of my town read do you disagree with?

[bozotheclown]

Okay yoyo plays this way as town also. Just fyi

Yoyoyozo is on my list of possibilities because he is a complete unknown. I have never seems him play, including this game.

[bozotheclown]

Why are you voting the guy you think is cult follower rather than cult leader? Those are the guys we need to kill. Maybe Neph is Bozos cultmate and Bozo is trying to scumread him without voting him. I'll have to reread that tomorrow morning.

My last comment answers this question. If you want to vote for DrCJG or Nephthys I will move my vote to them. We need to get to 7 votes on someone to prevent a potential curse from altering the lynch.

Its still more than 12 hours away from deadline. You can build a wagon in that time if you put together a legit case. Also, RHK has 1 vote, which isn't much better than the other two.

I have presented my case, I think DemonRHK, DrCJG, and Nephthys are all close to equal possibilities as scum leaders, I just found DrCJG and Nephthys slightly more suspicious based on D1.

[Squigs44]

I looked over yavuzovic's posts, and while he always says things that look suspicious, he comes across as town to me this game. Jamie and brainbomb seem to be putting in a lot of effort to solve the game, so they are both currently town reads for me. I think Squigs is probably town as well, I think he is putting in effort to solve the game as well, and I doubt he would push to lead a lynch on me D1 as scum when he could have gone along with another town lynch of ChippeRock. damo seems like town to me as well, and he said something that made it sound like he thought there was only one cult leader, which is subtle enough that it was probably not fake. Assuming I am right about Jamie, I will read worcej as town for now. That leaves DemonRHK, DrCJG, Nephthys, and Yoyoyozo. Yoyoyozo is a complete unknown, and I doubt he was recruited, but he could be a cult leader. My guess, assuming my town reads are correct, and based on rereading DemonRHK, DrCJG, and Nephthys is that DrCJG and Nephthys are the cult leaders and they recruited DemonRHK, with Yoyoyozo as the next likely scum.

Since DrCJG and Nephthys do not currently have any votes, I will

##VOTE DemonRHK

Something you said in here caught my attention and I need to do a complete reread to confirm. It's late here, so I probably won't get to it until the morning. But potentially this would give us pretty much the same town reads. I think Neph would probably be the best choice out of those three to vote. I think DrCJG is least likely out of those three.

[brainbomb]

Official Judgmental Voting Adjustment
##FINAL VOTE COUNT

ChippeRock (5) DrCJG, DemonRHK, Jaime99uk, worcej, bozotheclown
Bozotheclown (4) squigs44, yavuzovic, Nephthys, ChippeRock,
DemonRHK (2) damo666, brainbomb


The hangman keeps measuring out his ropes. ChippeRock is going to be lynched.

Please post here corrections ONLY

[brainbomb]

Unlike Jamie, I think both scums were on Squigs wagon.
I suspect worcej and bozo most.
Actually I agree with Jamie's reads except he is null in my reads.
Also Chippee didn't break a rule. He just wrote his last message that doesn't affect the game.

[brainbomb]

A few key points. Day 1was a townflip. With an intact counter wagon.


Bozotheclown (4) squigs44, yavuzovic, Nephthys, ChippeRock

Squiggs still scumreads bozo
Yavuz says he still scumreads bozo

If bozo is cult here they killed chippee. Its not safe for bozo to convert on his wagon at all.

Cult can freely convert the main wagon at will if bozo is cult.


Now lets say bozo is town.

So why would 2 cult be on lead wagon to save bozo?
@yav?

Exactly 1 cult being on lead wagon makes sense UNLESS bozo is cult.

I know im town and wasnt converted. So damo on DRHK is also worth thinking about.

@Damo what is your thought on an RHK lynch?

Also if RHK is cult its very risky to cult Damo there. Damo would have to pristinely ease away from bussing into townreading rhk today.



So theory 1
Bozo is cult and 2 cult voted chippee. Thus a guy like damo off wagon on RHK would be a great candidate to cult.

Theory 2
Bozo isnt cult. 1 cult was on bozo.
1 cult was on lead wagon.
Then cult can pretty much convert anyone anywhere and likely wouldnt convert bozo or RHK.
If a cult was on bozo its very unlikely theyd pick bozo to join nor rhk there.

Theory 3
Bozo and RHK are cult and had to convert squiggs yav or neph.
So far no bozo voters are waivering. Squiggs is maybe cult w bozo if he finds a way out here


Theory 4
Yav cultist
That means bozo isnt cult and only 1 cult was on chippee.
Which means yav and ? Wouldve probably wanted to keep bozo wagon intact. So theyd convert ON bozo wagon (squiggs-neph)

[brainbomb]

Im an optimist and a believer that day 1 wagons usually yield a scum wagon of some sort.

Im.gonna go ahead and say bozo is cult with squiggs. I realize thats probably gonna ruffle feathers. But ive observed a few painful moments where squiggs really really really doesnt actually wanna lynch bozo. And I can almost see him wincing at how frustrating this game is to stay true to form.

Ill quote the moments shortly.

[brainbomb]

@Brain - I think I am done looking into Bozo for now. Who should I look into next? I think I may have turned a bit of a blind eye to Neph recently. Do you still think he could be scum?

This is really interesting. And if you actually break down what it would take for this to be possible squiggs would have to be admitting he also is implicit in the exact same EOD1 behavior.

Hes accusing neph of being scum with bozo which the same would be true for himself.

[brainbomb]

This is hard to express without it spamming.

Damo posts this:

Bozo: Squigs Brain Chips
Brain: Yav Squigs Bozo Brain! Bozo Squigs Neph Squigs Yav Bozo Yav Chips Unvote Demon
Chips: Jamie Squigs Jamie Bozo
Damo: Bozo Squigs Demon
Demon: Chips
DrCJG: Bozo Unvote Chips
Jamie: DrCJG Brain Yav Squigs Chips
Neph: Brain Unvote Squigs Bozo
Squigs: Bozo
Worcej: Chips
Yav: Neph Jamie Bozo Squigs Unvote Squigs Bozo

Bozo replies:

Thanks for the information, I did not realize that many players voted for me at some point during the day.

Squiggs writes :

Hold on, how did you not know that you had that many votes on you? You were literally the second lead wagon. You said you voted ChippeRock in order to protect yourself, so you knew you had votes on you. This is a blatant lie.

Squiggs

When you say "net positive", are you saying they town read him the most and/or scum read him the least, and therefore might have know he was town?
Trying to get RHK to scumread Brain and Yav without coming out and saying it himself.

Squigs44

This is Bozo's scumhunting for today. Stating that everyone is town except bb, yav, and yoyo, and using POE to scumread Neph. How does POE give a scumread on Neph if you scumread bb, yav, and yoyo. There are only 2 cult leaders.

@Bozo - if you are town, then help us out here, because your play has been so weak. What makes you townread each individual player besides Neph, BB, Yav, and yoyo? Do you have any real scumreads that aren't PoE?

After this squiggs goes away from all this and starts making far different cases on drcjc worcej and neph.

[brainbomb]

Something you said in here caught my attention and I need to do a complete reread to confirm. It's late here, so I probably won't get to it until the morning. But potentially this would give us pretty much the same town reads. I think Neph would probably be the best choice out of those three to vote. I think DrCJG is least likely out of those three.

My top scum right now is Bozo, you, and yoyoyozo. I'd also entertain a look into demonRHK.
As far as my theory of you lurking because you were scum, I have not abandoned that theory, I pushed it in my iso. I apologize that I overlooked your previous scum game, but my points surrounding your early lurking still stand.

Squiggs I cant help but notice you keep mentioning lymching neph.

And for neph to be cult or to have been converted are 2 different things.

If bozo is town then neph can be a cult leader of course. But bozo cant be cult with neph because neph wouldnt convert bozo.... he wanted to kill bozo.


If bozo is cult why does he convert neph there over... you?

[brainbomb]

If you guys want cliffs notes and a TLDR here it is.


Bozo would not have been converted to scum by anyone on his wagon.
If bozo is cult he likely did convert on his wagon and someone on it now (Squiggs) is trying to find any way to progress naturally away from it.

If both neph and squiggs are town- and bozo is town. Brainbomb needs to retire from mafia forever.

[brainbomb]

We should be lynching bozo today to learn about his wagon. It was counter to lead wagon and the guy who died was on it.